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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:38 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:We should take all the memorials to presidents down except for Reagan's grave, we should build a restroom on top of that that empties into his coffin


I don't have Twitter, I just have this thing against genocides in 3rd world countries and mass parasitism by an upper class.


Pfff. The USA doesn't commit genocide.

True. Massmurder yes, genocide no.
Well, nowadays at least.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:40 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Kowani wrote:…The Internet databank?


The one that operated under the authority of the US government, until Obama surrendered control over it's functions to said non-profit, deliberately weakening US control over the internet directly leading to our present day troubles?

Control over the Internet?
…What exactly do you think IANA and ICANN do?


This is the issue with leftists in America. They don't care for the country. At all, at best they want it to peacefully slide into place as one more subject state of their new 'progressive' global order.

Ah, yes, Obama, bomber and destroyer of Libya, mass deporter, known globalist shill
At worst they want petty revenge for half imagined slights due to a gross misunderstanding of history.

Right, so you don’t understand progressivism.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:40 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:We should take all the memorials to presidents down except for Reagan's grave, we should build a restroom on top of that that empties into his coffin


I don't have Twitter, I just have this thing against genocides in 3rd world countries and mass parasitism by an upper class.


Pfff. The USA doesn't commit genocide.

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Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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The Emerald Legion
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:44 am

Kowani wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
The one that operated under the authority of the US government, until Obama surrendered control over it's functions to said non-profit, deliberately weakening US control over the internet directly leading to our present day troubles?

Control over the Internet?
…What exactly do you think IANA and ICANN do?


This is the issue with leftists in America. They don't care for the country. At all, at best they want it to peacefully slide into place as one more subject state of their new 'progressive' global order.

Ah, yes, Obama, bomber and destroyer of Libya, mass deporter, known globalist shill
At worst they want petty revenge for half imagined slights due to a gross misunderstanding of history.

Right, so you don’t understand progressivism.


They assign domain names to IP addresses. :roll:

Yes. Yes he is a known globalist shill.

Incorrect, I understand it better than most progressives, because most progressives are willfully ignorant of realities they find unpleasant.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:45 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would put Republican President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President and the Greatest US President Ever on Mount Rushmore, along with the Greatest American First Lady Nancy Reagan, because they loved each other very much. Republican President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore.

http://www.who2.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... shmore.png

He sold missiles to Iran, funded terrorists around the world, actively refused to do anything about the AIDS pandemic, attempted to swing America support fully behind the Apartheid Government.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:53 am

Heloin wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would put Republican President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President and the Greatest US President Ever on Mount Rushmore, along with the Greatest American First Lady Nancy Reagan, because they loved each other very much. Republican President Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore.

http://www.who2.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... shmore.png

He sold missiles to Iran, funded terrorists around the world, actively refused to do anything about the AIDS pandemic, attempted to swing America support fully behind the Apartheid Government.

Heloin my NS Friend, this is not the thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. I have posted on many different threads about President Ronald Reagan before.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:56 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Kowani wrote:Control over the Internet?
…What exactly do you think IANA and ICANN do?


Ah, yes, Obama, bomber and destroyer of Libya, mass deporter, known globalist shill

Right, so you don’t understand progressivism.


They assign domain names to IP addresses. :roll:

Which confers them no power.
Yes. Yes he is a known globalist shill.

Incorrect, I understand it better than most progressives, because most progressives are willfully ignorant of realities they find unpleasant.

Have you considered the tinfoil hat industry?
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:57 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Heloin wrote:He sold missiles to Iran, funded terrorists around the world, actively refused to do anything about the AIDS pandemic, attempted to swing America support fully behind the Apartheid Government.

Heloin my NS Friend, this is not thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. I have posted on many different threads about President Ronald Reagan before.

*brings up Reagan in order to praise him out of nowhere*
Actually he was a fucking monster who did horrible stuff throughout his life.
*complains about threadjacking*

Yeah, that shit ain't going to fly.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:04 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:We should take all the memorials to presidents down except for Reagan's grave, we should build a restroom on top of that that empties into his coffin


I don't have Twitter, I just have this thing against genocides in 3rd world countries and mass parasitism by an upper class.


Pfff. The USA doesn't commit genocide.

They used to, now it's just mass slaughter.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:05 pm

Heloin wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Heloin my NS Friend, this is not thread to discuss and argue about Republican President Ronald Regan in details, it would be threadjacking and we will both get in trouble with the Mods. I have posted on many different threads about President Ronald Reagan before.

*brings up Reagan in order to praise him out of nowhere*
Actually he was a fucking monster who did horrible stuff throughout his life.
*complains about threadjacking*

Yeah, that shit ain't going to fly.

I Posted about a statue of President Reagan being on Mount Rushmore, if approved by the majority of the population. I will let you know through a friendly TG when and where on the forums you and I can discus and argue on President Reagan. I might look through my thousands of NS Posts and send you links you can read. If we can discuss and argue on President Reagan through the TGs without any personal insults on both sides, I am willing to do so. You may send me a Friendly TG anytime you wish. I cant do more than this. I know by your reactions you hate President Reagan, I don't have a problem with it. It is called Democracy in America, The USA.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:05 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
They assign domain names to IP addresses. :roll:

Which confers them no power.
Yes. Yes he is a known globalist shill.

Incorrect, I understand it better than most progressives, because most progressives are willfully ignorant of realities they find unpleasant.

Have you considered the tinfoil hat industry?


Why would I want to empower globalist enemies of America by encouraging them to wear Tin?

Don't you know most Tin is mined and refined in places that are not America? It would be just handing China and Indonesia money to further their crusade against America.
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Postby Mitary » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:09 pm

George Washington's slaves were his wives slaves, and Jefferson tried to add the abolition of slavery to the declaration of independence.

So basically, pay more attention in history class!
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Mitary wrote:George Washington's slaves were his wives slaves, and Jefferson tried to add the abolition of slavery to the declaration of independence.

So basically, pay more attention in history class!

Washington was fine with his wife having slaves and Jefferson raped his own slaves.
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Postby The Peasant Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:12 pm

Mitary wrote:George Washington's slaves were his wives slaves, and Jefferson tried to add the abolition of slavery to the declaration of independence.

So basically, pay more attention in history class!

He refused to free any of his own slaves and rape some of them. I'm not sure how some post facto lip service to abolition would really work with that.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:13 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Heloin wrote:*brings up Reagan in order to praise him out of nowhere*
Actually he was a fucking monster who did horrible stuff throughout his life.
*complains about threadjacking*

Yeah, that shit ain't going to fly.

I Posted about a statue of President Reagan being on Mount Rushmore, if approved by the majority of the population.

Which is pointless to bring up unless your needlessly praising him then getting annoyed by the fact that he's actually awful. It would never be approved by a majority because he's not actually a popular president outside the circle of rightwingers who think Reaganomics was a good idea.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:15 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Mitary wrote:George Washington's slaves were his wives slaves, and Jefferson tried to add the abolition of slavery to the declaration of independence.

So basically, pay more attention in history class!

Washington was fine with his wife having slaves and Jefferson raped his own slaves.


There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:18 pm

Heloin wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I Posted about a statue of President Reagan being on Mount Rushmore, if approved by the majority of the population.

Which is pointless to bring up unless your needlessly praising him then getting annoyed by the fact that he's actually awful. It would never be approved by a majority because he's not actually a popular president outside the circle of rightwingers who think Reaganomics was a good idea.

If we ever discus President Reagan on the right forum thread, I will Praise him and you will not praise him, I don't have a problem with it, Because I respect your rights to post to me you hate him and why you hate him. This is what we will do on NS, discuss, argue and disagree, It is called Democracy in the USA. I will try to let you know when and where we can discuss, argue and disagree on President Reagan on the right forum. It is not pointless, this is what we are all here for on NS.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:18 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Washington was fine with his wife having slaves and Jefferson raped his own slaves.


There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/8/11389556/t ... mings-book
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html
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Postby The Peasant Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:19 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Washington was fine with his wife having slaves and Jefferson raped his own slaves.


There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.

Oh god not another rehash of the "having sex with your slave isn't rape" fiasco.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:23 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Heloin wrote:Which is pointless to bring up unless your needlessly praising him then getting annoyed by the fact that he's actually awful. It would never be approved by a majority because he's not actually a popular president outside the circle of rightwingers who think Reaganomics was a good idea.

If we ever discus President Reagan on the right forum thread, I will Praise him and you will not praise him, I don't have a problem with it, Because I respect your rights to post to me you hate him and why you hate him. This is what we will do on NS, discuss, argue and disagree, It is called Democracy in the USA. I will try to let you know when and where we can discuss, argue and disagree on President Reagan on the right forum. It is not pointless, this is what we are all here for on NS.

Don't bring something up if your going to scream threadjack when someone tells your your wrong.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:23 pm

Our founders were flawed, mainly due to their times. It doesn't mean they don't deserve statues.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:24 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/8/11389556/t ... mings-book
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html


:roll: yes. Fake news tells lies. We know this.

The Peasant Republic wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.

Oh god not another rehash of the "having sex with your slave isn't rape" fiasco.


There's no evidence they even had sex. The DNA nonsense Is just that, nonsense.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:26 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:


:roll: yes. Fake news tells lies. We know this.

The Peasant Republic wrote:Oh god not another rehash of the "having sex with your slave isn't rape" fiasco.


There's no evidence they even had sex. The DNA nonsense Is just that, nonsense.

They had multiple children, and it's an established fact that he's a rapist. You really are a conspiracy nut, unless this is one of those self parodies you mentioned in your sig
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:31 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Heloin wrote:*brings up Reagan in order to praise him out of nowhere*
Actually he was a fucking monster who did horrible stuff throughout his life.
*complains about threadjacking*

Yeah, that shit ain't going to fly.

I Posted about a statue of President Reagan being on Mount Rushmore, if approved by the majority of the population. I will let you know through a friendly TG when and where on the forums you and I can discus and argue on President Reagan. I might look through my thousands of NS Posts and send you links you can read. If we can discuss and argue on President Reagan through the TGs without any personal insults on both sides, I am willing to do so. You may send me a Friendly TG anytime you wish. I cant do more than this. I know by your reactions you hate President Reagan, I don't have a problem with it. It is called Democracy in America, The USA.


Nope. Reagan shouldn't be on Rushmore. Not his style. They tried to put him on the dime and Nancy nixed that quick. Stating *shock* he admired FDR.
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Postby Aeritai » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:33 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Washington was fine with his wife having slaves and Jefferson raped his own slaves.


There is literally no evidence beyond some random people saying so hundreds of years later that Jefferson raped his slaves.


There's a website to Sally Hemings that explains her life and relationship with Jefferson.

https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/
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