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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:44 pm

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Luminesa wrote:There’s a lot of fake-woke people right now. And they are all over Twitter.


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Postby Grimmsland » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:09 pm

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Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished? The 'Browning of the West'? The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors? Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates? Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc but that we also NEED mass immigration.
I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.


Supposedly you're suppose to end up looking like ancient Egyptians or something.. so a Mocha Beige.

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:41 pm

Hrythingland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished? The 'Browning of the West'? The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors? Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates? Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc but that we also NEED mass immigration.

I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.


Honestly, it's just that a lot of well-off people don't want to have large families anymore. It's a little quirk of liberal modernity where the traditional family setting isn't so much a thing anymore, with both men and women getting educations and careers, as well as the economy not being too amazing for raising families either. The immigration bit is to make up for the fact that people at home aren't having many kids.
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Postby Komlonia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:46 pm

Luminesa wrote:So some stupid people apparently knocked-over and stole a statue of Frederick Douglass, according to CNN.

These people unironically have no idea what they are doing. This is ridiculous. They're just attacking everything. These anarchists and uneducated mad-people are gonna be the reason that true, good reform does not happen. They are ruining everything which will actually help black communities. Imagine being so stupid that one knocks over a statue of Frederick Douglass in the name of stopping oppression against black people. They don't care about racism. At this point they're going to implode. Watch.

hint: the people who knocked down the frederick douglass statue are racists and the people who knocked down washington or jefferson or lee are anti-racists

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:49 pm

Komlonia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:So some stupid people apparently knocked-over and stole a statue of Frederick Douglass, according to CNN.

These people unironically have no idea what they are doing. This is ridiculous. They're just attacking everything. These anarchists and uneducated mad-people are gonna be the reason that true, good reform does not happen. They are ruining everything which will actually help black communities. Imagine being so stupid that one knocks over a statue of Frederick Douglass in the name of stopping oppression against black people. They don't care about racism. At this point they're going to implode. Watch.

hint: the people who knocked down the frederick douglass statue are racists and the people who knocked down washington or jefferson or lee are anti-racists

The people knocking down our founding fathers are mostly morons.
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Postby Komlonia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:51 pm

our founding fathers are mostly morons

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:53 pm

Hrythingland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished? The 'Browning of the West'? The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors? Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates? Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc but that we also NEED mass immigration.
I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.


I hope you are trying to be edgy. It would make more sense.

Whiteness being abolished is mainly due to our efforts (yes I am white). Children and raising children is extremely expensive due to "free market" views and profit. I am guess you don't have children. You would be amazed at what it costs to have a child in a hospital. Shall we talk about the costs to raise one to adulthood?



If you value freedom, then you have to respect a persons choice to get tubs tied and vasectomies. Some actually don't want children due to family history of bad diseases. They are doing you a favor if you think about it.

Nobody told me to have less children. I ended up with one for reasons I will not discuss here.

Mass imigration? I am guessing you are refearing to H1B and the hispanics. H1B was designed to find missing talent. The problem? It's been long since abused to eliminate the local workforce. One thing I actually agree with Trump :shock: is it's suspension. We have too many people out of work these days. As to the hispanics? Ever notice with all that wall nonsense; they rarely if never interviewed the people who live on the border. Always somebody a couple hundred miles away
spouting off on things they have little knowledge. They do the work nobody wants to do as the pay is crap.

Finally; the pay nonsense? I worked hard to get where I was at. White people took it away from me and white people are denying me work(well there was one Asian woman. Even then she was born here).

Whiteness is not being oppressed. It's part of the problem. We like to screw each other.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:54 pm

Komlonia wrote:our founding fathers are mostly morons


Nah. They did a pretty good job setting up a Republic.

Better than the French or Russians at any rate.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:55 pm

Hrythingland wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished?

I go one further, all ethnic identity should be abolished.
The 'Browning of the West'?

A thing that doesn’t exist?
The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors?

You ever see The Last Samurai?

Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates?

Minority birthrates will drop too, but somehow that never gets mentioned.
Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc

The fuck are you talking about?
but that we also NEED mass immigration.

Economically, yes.
I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.

You don’t understand what cosmopolitan means, then.
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Postby Names Are Too Hard » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:57 pm

Komlonia wrote:our founding fathers are mostly morons

Would you mind backing up that claim?
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Postby Komlonia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:02 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Komlonia wrote:our founding fathers are mostly morons


Nah. They did a pretty good job setting up a Republic.

Better than the French or Russians at any rate.

good for whom?

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Postby Names Are Too Hard » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:04 pm

Komlonia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Nah. They did a pretty good job setting up a Republic.

Better than the French or Russians at any rate.

good for whom?

Rich, White Landowners. There. That’s the answer you’ve been fishing for. Still a better, more free country than the majority of European states at the time.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:05 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Luminesa wrote:It's very possible. I don't think anyone is making a definite decision on who did it, I'm just frustrated because it seems more and more that the statues coming down are not actually-awful people like Jefferson Davis. It's turning more and more that statues are coming down for increasingly vague reasons. If Frederick Douglass is a possible target, than anyone is. If Robert the Bruce and St. Louis IX are targets, despite having nothing to do with corrupt police departments, the murders of black people, or slavery, then anyone is a target. Who is next? Sojourner Truth? Harriet Tubman? St. Martin de Porres? I don't even know anymore.

This was my favorite.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/shaw-54th- ... /32733306#


Why...........why would they vandalize Shaw?
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:25 pm

Komlonia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Nah. They did a pretty good job setting up a Republic.

Better than the French or Russians at any rate.

good for whom?


Americans, generally speaking.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:27 pm

Komlonia wrote:our founding fathers are mostly morons

Whatever you say you commie.

Salus Maior wrote:
Komlonia wrote:good for whom?


Americans, generally speaking.

Despite their flaws, we did gain self rule due to them. That is a benefit.
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Postby Komlonia » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:42 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Komlonia wrote:good for whom?


Americans, generally speaking.

citation needed

Names Are Too Hard wrote:
Komlonia wrote:good for whom?

Rich, White Landowners. There. That’s the answer you’ve been fishing for. Still a better, more free country than the majority of European states at the time.

correct. but we don't have to exalt those rich white landowners just because they made it over the low bar set by the colonial empires of europe

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Postby Atheris » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:54 pm

Komlonia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Americans, generally speaking.

citation needed


See: The United States of America (1787 -).
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:25 pm

Atheris wrote:
Komlonia wrote:citation needed


See: The United States of America (1787 -).

What happened in 1787?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:30 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Atheris wrote:
See: The United States of America (1787 -).

What happened in 1787?

Constitutional convention.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:31 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cisairse wrote:What happened in 1787?

Constitutional convention.

Ugh. Worst year of my life.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:36 pm

Cisairse wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Constitutional convention.

Ugh. Worst year of my life.

We had the articles of confederation first, so we would still be a country even if that didn't happen. We would just have a different government structure.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:40 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Atheris wrote:
See: The United States of America (1787 -).

What happened in 1787?

The Constitution.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:45 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Ugh. Worst year of my life.

We had the articles of confederation first, so we would still be a country even if that didn't happen. We would just have a different government structure.


We probably would have fallen apart.

And there wouldn't have been any federal power to enact emancipation and guarantee Constitutional Rights.

AKA, the states would rule on their residents' rights exclusively.
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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:49 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Ugh. Worst year of my life.

We had the articles of confederation first, so we would still be a country even if that didn't happen. We would just have a different government structure.

I know. I'm an antifed.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:49 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:We had the articles of confederation first, so we would still be a country even if that didn't happen. We would just have a different government structure.


We probably would have fallen apart.

And there wouldn't have been any federal power to enact emancipation and guarantee Constitutional Rights.

AKA, the states would rule on their residents' rights exclusively.

The only good thing that would've come out of that is that Virginia would be T H I C C.
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