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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:25 pm
by Tarsonis
Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:29 pm
by Ors Might
Tarsonis wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:35 pm
by Atheris
Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

I have a dream. That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A nation of action, not words, ruled by tanks, not committee!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 am
by Kowani
Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

Tienmen Square intensifies

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:07 am
by The Lone Alliance
Ifreann wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Two steps forward, three steps back; police reform eludes the public still.

Token victories being awarded to protesters in the hopes of distracting them from true justice.

And it works considering most of the protesters could care less about True Justice also and more about show justice that makes them feel good about their pathetic selves.

Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

Definitely would work great in a situation like this where supposedly "Peaceful" protesters will shoot at your car if you don't let them assault you.

The bullet will just bounce off the sloped armor and you can slowly drive right on by.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:49 am
by Fartsniffage
Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?


Fear the British

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:36 am
by Greed and Death

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:48 am
by Ifreann
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html

Had a heated gaming moment on Twitch and used a slur to refer to mackerel.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:52 am
by Aeritai
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:55 am
by Ifreann
Aeritai wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:55 am
by Atheris
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html

One of the comments says "Man, Jaws is about to be labeled a propaganda film."

Give that man a medal.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:04 am
by Aeritai
Ifreann wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.


I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:12 am
by Salus Maior
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Alright, this has to be trolling.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:48 am
by The Marlborough
Ifreann wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:This too, citizens should be able to own tanks.

How will you be paying for that?

Crowdfund it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:52 am
by Luminesa
Ifreann wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.

I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am
by Fahran
WeKnow wrote:I was referring what was done to the natives to even begin US, let alone the sheerest irony that the same people who are caucasian and resultant of immigrants pillaging upon invasion are now the type to say they are the natives and who loathe all outsiders (even kind and well-meaning ones).

Smallpox and other diseases did most of the heavy lifting on that front, but, in any case, the essential nature of the abuses is not too much more problematic than what occurred else-where. The two distinctions that spring readily to mind are the sheer scale of the devastation, which has seldom been equalled historically, and the introduction of a racial hierarchy where, in olden times, a civic, ethnic, or aristocratic hierarchy would have been employed to divide society.

A lot of the indigenous nations, especially beginning at the inception of the so-called Indian Wars, adopted a hostile stance towards incursions even by ostensibly peaceful surveyors and settlers because they understood that agricultural and industrial development of the land they inhabitted was incompatible with their way of life. It's not really altogether surprising then that the present population is likewise resistance to large-scale immigration that results in cultural and economic shifts. It's functionally the same phenomenon repeating itself. But we're getting a bit off-topic and this particular topic is more of an appetizer for the topic of the thread itself.

WeKnow wrote:I speak not just of the horrific corruption and conquest mentality that US has towards the middle east or Africa during its slave trade but that the very nation itself is founded by and for white supremacist psychopaths. There was not a single founder who was not complicit in it and any who spoke out against it were silenced and bullied by those very founders.

First and foremost, that's not true and suggests a very narrow, reductionist, and confused understanding of who precisely the Founders were. They were a diverse group of people with disparate aims, ideologies, and attitudes towards racial equality. Several Founders spoke against slavery and the extermination of indigenous peoples. So that entire argument is ahistorical nonsense. Additionally, the founders of the other polities I mentioned all have the same problems on a large-scale.

WeKnow wrote:Whether you are Zulu or American or any ethnicity at all, celebrate and respect the parts of your history you think deserve that pride. If you choose to celebrate disgusting parts of your history and glorify people who were very significant in those horrors and you then glorify them as nigh-saintly, don't be shocked when an outraged protest many generations later happens to feel the opposite way. It's only natural, in my eyes at least.

They don't glorify them because of the horrors or atrocities. They glorify them because in spite or even because of those atrocities they managed to do worthwhile things. Shaka Zulu created larger, more centralized, and more viable polities by initiating the Mfecane. The leaders of the Sioux allowed their nation to flourish by driving out or subjugating the Cheyenne and Arikara. And the protests don't matter all that much. That's an appeal to popular appeal which is sadly undermined by the fact that the general public doesn't really agree with these protestors.


Cuban communists aren't a reliable source on anything. And most of these sources are interesting thought experiments or pop history at best. You can't give a proper psychological diagnosis to someone who isn't your patient for instance.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:11 am
by Fahran
Luminesa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.

I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.

I can argue that it is deeply racist if you want but that would be an effort-post.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:16 am
by Atheris
Fahran wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.

I can argue that it is deeply racist if you want but that would be an effort-post.

She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:18 am
by Fahran
Atheris wrote:She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.

"I will assert herein that Ariel's desire for legs is a metaphor symbolizing the desire of the tragic mulatta to assimilate into whiteness and pass as a respectable member of society in a social order rooted on a fundamental level in white supremacy."

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:23 am
by Atheris
Fahran wrote:
Atheris wrote:She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.

"I will assert herein that Ariel's desire for legs is a metaphor symbolizing the desire of the tragic mulatta to assimilate into whiteness and pass as a respectable member of society in a social order rooted on a fundamental level in white supremacy."

And her having 8?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:47 am
by Fahran
Aeritai wrote:I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.

BLM has supported some really great causes and held some protests that I thought were worthwhile. The basic message is a good one too. BLM has a lot of problems though and, at this point, I'm hesitant to view the movement as a uniformly or even principally good one, especially outside of the United States and the issue of police brutality.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:46 pm
by Greater Miami Shores
Fahran wrote:
Aeritai wrote:I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.

BLM has supported some really great causes and held some protests that I thought were worthwhile. The basic message is a good one too. BLM has a lot of problems though and, at this point, I'm hesitant to view the movement as a uniformly or even principally good one, especially outside of the United States and the issue of police brutality.

What great causes, you mean the removal of Statues and Monuments? Defund the Police?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:02 pm
by Greed and Death
Tarsonis wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Clearly tankers owners deserve a fuel subsidy.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:15 pm
by Fahran
Greater Miami Shores wrote:What great causes, you mean the removal of Statues and Monuments? Defund the Police?

Wanting to arrest police officers who use excessive force.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:19 pm
by An Alan Smithee Nation
The Dixie Mafia are going to change their name to The Southern Crime Organisation.