Washington & Jefferson Statue Get Pulled Down

[Rojava Free State]

If we destroy statues and monuments of every person who owned a slave or did one bad act, we're going to find ourselves with no statues to speak of.

How about we put up new statues to remember the evil that these men propagated and strap C4 to the old statues and detonate them?

[Atheris]

If we destroy statues and monuments of every person who owned a slave or did one bad act, we're going to find ourselves with no statues to speak of.

How about we put up new statues to remember the evil that these men propagated and strap C4 to the old statues and detonate them?

Michael Bay approved.

[Hrythingland]

Who says it was BLM protestors that did it? The article explicitly mentions it could be retaliation for other statues taken down.

That was my assumption. I didn't think for a second BLM did it.

Tit for tat. If white people are getting taken down, we're going to take down black people.

LMFAO.

[Rojava Free State]

That was my assumption. I didn't think for a second BLM did it.

Tit for tat. If white people are getting taken down, we're going to take down black people.

LMFAO.

I hope you aren't supporting this because this isn't a race war. The confederates were evil because they were evil, not because they were white. It wasn't the clothes that they wore, the color of their skin or their religion, they were just wicked men.

[Fartsniffage]

That was my assumption. I didn't think for a second BLM did it.

Tit for tat. If white people are getting taken down, we're going to take down black people.

LMFAO.

Well you seem like a nice person with sensible opinions that should be listened to.

[Aeritai]

Frederick Douglass statue torn down

Bro what

Yeah there is no way BLM did this, I'm pretty sure a different group did this.

[Hrythingland]

Tit for tat. If white people are getting taken down, we're going to take down black people.

LMFAO.

I hope you aren't supporting this because this isn't a race war. The confederates were evil because they were evil, not because they were white. It wasn't the clothes that they wore, the color of their skin or their religion, they were just wicked men.

I don't have anything against Douglas specifically but if the other side want to play stupid games then two can play them. I think it is become a race conflict tbh. There is a significant amount of anti-white invective going around at the moment. I don't care how much of it is justified: if I were black or whatever I'd be pissed off too, but I am white and all I see is an attack on my identity from so many areas of my society. That all other groups can be self assertive -militantly so, but not us. White supremacy exists because most western societies were built and run by majority 'white' societies (yes I'm aware that black slaves were important to the US economy), but our architecture, music, industry, farms, literature, governenance et cetera is of our own, for us and by us. I have no interest in seeing that being dismantled just because various other groups beyond that identity are bitter about it. Tough. Perhaps their time may come.

Somalia will have sprawling forests of glass skyscrapers which will be navigated by fleet of flying cars and they'll be extracting rare minerals from distant solar systems. But I shan't hold my breath.

[Rojava Free State]

I hope you aren't supporting this because this isn't a race war. The confederates were evil because they were evil, not because they were white. It wasn't the clothes that they wore, the color of their skin or their religion, they were just wicked men.

I don't have anything against Douglas specifically but if the other side want to play stupid games then two can play them. I think it is become a race conflict tbh. There is a significant amount of anti-white invective going around at the moment. I don't care how much of it is justified: if I were black or whatever I'd be pissed off too, but I am white and all I see is an attack on my identity from so many areas of my society. That all other groups can be self assertive -militantly so, but not us. White supremacy exists because most western societies were built and run by majority 'white' societies (yes I'm aware that black slaves were important to the US economy), but our architecture, music, industry, farms, literature, governenance et cetera is of our own, for us and by us. I have no interest in seeing that being dismantled just because various other groups beyond that identity are bitter about it. Tough. Perhaps their time may come.

Somalia will have sprawling forests of glass skyscrapers which will be navigated by fleet of flying cars and they'll be extracting rare minerals from distant solar systems. But I shan't hold my breath.

White supremacy exists because a bunch of rich planters had to justify why they should be able to own slaves beyond "my profits." As for the part I highlighted, here's a fun fact.

90+% of western music is of black origin. Rock, rap, jazz, blues, pop, electronic, even country originated from African Americans. So it isnt "your music" if we're gonna start dealing out property rights based around race. I don't support anti white racism anymore than you, but I also don't play these stupid tribal games. The protesters aren't all out to get the white man. The statues of confederates are basically participation awards for a group of losers who got their asses handed to them, and I'm sorry if the statues of said nobodies being smashed into fifty pieces upsets you. One more little tidbit, Northern Europe was an uncivilized backwater till the late middle ages, and nowadays it is a very advanced place, so don't count the africans out just because they aren't doing well now. There are no superior races, and societies are only as stable and prosperous as the times allow them to be.

[Rojava Free State]

Tit for tat. If white people are getting taken down, we're going to take down black people.

LMFAO.

Well you seem like a nice person with sensible opinions that should be listened to.

I'm getting mad white nationalist vibes from this guy. His talk of western society and white people being victims as well as his justification of white supremacy is what has me suspicious.

[Neanderthaland]

Frederick Douglass statue torn down

Bro what

This I actually don't get.

Probably wasn't BLM that did it.

[The Reformed American Republic]

This I actually don't get.

Probably wasn't BLM that did it.

Probably revenge of sorts due to other statues being torn down.

[Kragholm Free States]

Frederick Douglass statue torn down

Bro what

Yeah there is no way BLM did this, I'm pretty sure a different group did this.

I don't know, BLM have precedent for going after statues of abolitionists and former slaves. It's not that far fetched to suggest they were behind this one too.

[Rojava Free State]

Yeah there is no way BLM did this, I'm pretty sure a different group did this.

I don't know, BLM have precedent for going after statues of abolitionists and former slaves. It's not that far fetched to suggest they were behind this one too.

Highly doubt it, especially when we got a bunch of Trumpsters going around hitting protesters with cars and calling the cops on black people.

[Hrythingland]

I don't have anything against Douglas specifically but if the other side want to play stupid games then two can play them. I think it is become a race conflict tbh. There is a significant amount of anti-white invective going around at the moment. I don't care how much of it is justified: if I were black or whatever I'd be pissed off too, but I am white and all I see is an attack on my identity from so many areas of my society. That all other groups can be self assertive -militantly so, but not us. White supremacy exists because most western societies were built and run by majority 'white' societies (yes I'm aware that black slaves were important to the US economy), but our architecture, music, industry, farms, literature, governenance et cetera is of our own, for us and by us. I have no interest in seeing that being dismantled just because various other groups beyond that identity are bitter about it. Tough. Perhaps their time may come.

Somalia will have sprawling forests of glass skyscrapers which will be navigated by fleet of flying cars and they'll be extracting rare minerals from distant solar systems. But I shan't hold my breath.

White supremacy exists because a bunch of rich planters had to justify why they should be able to own slaves beyond "my profits." As for the part I highlighted, here's a fun fact.

90+% of western music is of black origin. Rock, rap, jazz, blues, pop, electronic, even country originated from African Americans. So it isnt "your music" if we're gonna start dealing out property rights based around race. I don't support anti white racism anymore than you, but I also don't play these stupid tribal games. The protesters aren't all out to get the white man. The statues of confederates are basically participation awards for a group of losers who got their asses handed to them, and I'm sorry if the statues of said nobodies being smashed into fifty pieces upsets you. One more little tidbit, Northern Europe was an uncivilized backwater till the late middle ages, and nowadays it is a very advanced place, so don't count the africans out just because they aren't doing well now. There are no superior races, and societies are only as stable and prosperous as the times allow them to be.

I'm aware that that music is a tad more ethnically diverse, but even then the main rock and pop bands are/were still mostly comprised of Europeans. I mean Classical Music, which, is far more eternal that fleeting pop numbers. Also, country music, perhaps not in America, though, is derived largely from English and Scots Irish folk music I am pretty damn sure. I could be wrong here again I am not American but British, I understood confederate monuments to be in memory of the fallen confederate soldiers. Either way, here in Britain we have statues of William Wallace or Owain Glyndwr, not because we approve of rebellion but because the people of those areas see them as legendary men who rose up and fought valiantly. Northern Europe wasn't that uncivilised, even in late-Roman times the artefacts from the Germano-Celtic world are fairly impressive, and certainly before Late Middle Ages. No doubt Civilisations rise and fall, but mine is still alive and as such I intend for it to stay so. I won't bet that Africa will not ever be a place of great advancement, just not in my lifetime so I don't care much for it. Races are not 'superior' in some senses but I have a preference towards my own and as things stand the material achievements of my own people are far greater than theirs.

[Ifreann]

Upon the first public reading of the American Declaration of Independence in New York, colonists pulled down a statue of King George. Wrecking shit up is as ancient an American tradition as they get.

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Others did follow his example, and further expanded the Fugitive Slave Act.

Yes.. they pulled down a statue of someone they had literally just fought a war against?

No, they pulled down a statue of their king, to whom they had just sent a strongly worded letter. The war happened later.

[Hrythingland]

Well you seem like a nice person with sensible opinions that should be listened to.

I'm getting mad white nationalist vibes from this guy. His talk of western society and white people being victims as well as his justification of white supremacy is what has me suspicious.

I am an ethno-nationalist. Though being British I am primarily interested in Anglo-Celtic British nationalism rather than the hybrid breed of pan-European nationalism that many American notsocs seem to go in for. The term 'white' is of little interest to me personally but that is the dichotomy used in the US.

[Fahran]

We have no real way of knowing who vandalized the statue of Douglass but, in any case, I don't believe it's an action that should be supported by anyone. It's an iconoclasm, whether it was part of the broader trend or someone toppled it in retaliation. And it does not serve the public interest at all.

[Rojava Free State]

White supremacy exists because a bunch of rich planters had to justify why they should be able to own slaves beyond "my profits." As for the part I highlighted, here's a fun fact.

90+% of western music is of black origin. Rock, rap, jazz, blues, pop, electronic, even country originated from African Americans. So it isnt "your music" if we're gonna start dealing out property rights based around race. I don't support anti white racism anymore than you, but I also don't play these stupid tribal games. The protesters aren't all out to get the white man. The statues of confederates are basically participation awards for a group of losers who got their asses handed to them, and I'm sorry if the statues of said nobodies being smashed into fifty pieces upsets you. One more little tidbit, Northern Europe was an uncivilized backwater till the late middle ages, and nowadays it is a very advanced place, so don't count the africans out just because they aren't doing well now. There are no superior races, and societies are only as stable and prosperous as the times allow them to be.

I'm aware that that music is a tad more ethnically diverse, but even then the main rock and pop bands are/were still mostly comprised of Europeans. I mean Classical Music, which, is far more eternal that fleeting pop numbers. Also, country music, perhaps not in America, though, is derived largely from English and Scots Irish folk music I am pretty damn sure. I could be wrong here again I am not American but British, I understood confederate monuments to be in memory of the fallen confederate soldiers. Either way, here in Britain we have statues of William Wallace or Owain Glyndwr, not because we approve of rebellion but because the people of those areas see them as legendary men who rose up and fought valiantly. Northern Europe wasn't that uncivilised, even in late-Roman times the artefacts from the Germano-Celtic world are fairly impressive, and certainly before Late Middle Ages. No doubt Civilisations rise and fall, but mine is still alive and as such I intend for it to stay so. I won't bet that Africa will not ever be a place of great advancement, just not in my lifetime so I don't care much for it. Races are not 'superior' in some senses but I have a preference towards my own and as things stand the material achievements of my own people are far greater than theirs.

Rock became mostly white because the music was appropriated by white folks, who make up a majority of Americans and Brits. Doesnt change where the music came from. And by country music, I am referring to American country which is heavily blues influenced.

As for northern Europe, they were no more advanced in the 400s than many africans at the time. Look how things changed.

[Rojava Free State]

I'm getting mad white nationalist vibes from this guy. His talk of western society and white people being victims as well as his justification of white supremacy is what has me suspicious.

I am an ethno-nationalist. Though being British I am primarily interested in Anglo-Celtic British nationalism rather than the hybrid breed of pan-European nationalism that many American notsocs seem to go in for. The term 'white' is of little interest to me personally but that is the dichotomy used in the US.

Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

[Hrythingland]

I am an ethno-nationalist. Though being British I am primarily interested in Anglo-Celtic British nationalism rather than the hybrid breed of pan-European nationalism that many American notsocs seem to go in for. The term 'white' is of little interest to me personally but that is the dichotomy used in the US.

Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished? The 'Browning of the West'? The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors? Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates? Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc but that we also NEED mass immigration.
I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.

[Luminesa]

So some stupid people apparently knocked-over and stole a statue of Frederick Douglass, according to CNN.

These people unironically have no idea what they are doing. This is ridiculous. They're just attacking everything. These anarchists and uneducated mad-people are gonna be the reason that true, good reform does not happen. They are ruining everything which will actually help black communities. Imagine being so stupid that one knocks over a statue of Frederick Douglass in the name of stopping oppression against black people. They don't care about racism. At this point they're going to implode. Watch.

[Hrythingland]

I'm aware that that music is a tad more ethnically diverse, but even then the main rock and pop bands are/were still mostly comprised of Europeans. I mean Classical Music, which, is far more eternal that fleeting pop numbers. Also, country music, perhaps not in America, though, is derived largely from English and Scots Irish folk music I am pretty damn sure. I could be wrong here again I am not American but British, I understood confederate monuments to be in memory of the fallen confederate soldiers. Either way, here in Britain we have statues of William Wallace or Owain Glyndwr, not because we approve of rebellion but because the people of those areas see them as legendary men who rose up and fought valiantly. Northern Europe wasn't that uncivilised, even in late-Roman times the artefacts from the Germano-Celtic world are fairly impressive, and certainly before Late Middle Ages. No doubt Civilisations rise and fall, but mine is still alive and as such I intend for it to stay so. I won't bet that Africa will not ever be a place of great advancement, just not in my lifetime so I don't care much for it. Races are not 'superior' in some senses but I have a preference towards my own and as things stand the material achievements of my own people are far greater than theirs.

Rock became mostly white because the music was appropriated by white folks, who make up a majority of Americans and Brits. Doesnt change where the music came from. And by country music, I am referring to American country which is heavily blues influenced.

As for northern Europe, they were no more advanced in the 400s than many africans at the time. Look how things changed.

Really? Have you seen the finds from burial mounds there? Many africans at the time were hunter gatherers. Most people in northern Europe lived in kin-based farming hamlets with organised tax collecting, militia systems and great warrior halls for courts with poets, artists and scribes.

[Rojava Free State]

Alright then, well at least you aren't a racial nationalist, but still bruh, most people aren't coming after you.

Really?

Whiteness must be abolished? The 'Browning of the West'? The writing out of folk heroes with diversity actors? Low white birth rates to high ethnic minority birth rates? Yet we are told simultaneously that whilst white people must have fewer children, consider sterilisation, spurn family life etc but that we also NEED mass immigration.
I don't think there is a hivemind conspiracy but I think there is growing consensus amongst Davos and other such cosmopolitan types that the world, particularly the west would be more manageable if our identity was utterly ground down and we were just reduced to an amorphous grey mass of consumers and some producers, malleable to any part of the world and with no higher values than receiving our monthly pay packet.

Why do you speak of western culture like only whites can promote it? Immigration in itself isn't bad as long as the immigrants integrate.

Just FYI by the way, most of the so called non white immigrants to America and Europe are actually caucasian and look virtually indistinguishable from people in Europe, like for example the Syrians.

[Neanderthaland]

So some stupid people apparently knocked-over and stole a statue of Frederick Douglass, according to CNN.

These people unironically have no idea what they are doing. This is ridiculous. They're just attacking everything. These anarchists and uneducated mad-people are gonna be the reason that true, good reform does not happen. They are ruining everything which will actually help black communities. Imagine being so stupid that one knocks over a statue of Frederick Douglass in the name of stopping oppression against black people. They don't care about racism. At this point they're going to implode. Watch.

Alternatively: BLM didn't do it.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

well at least you aren't a racial nationalist

Ethno-nationalism is just as bad tbh.