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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:25 pm

Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning
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Postby Ors Might » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:29 pm

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Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:35 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 am

Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Two steps forward, three steps back; police reform eludes the public still.

Token victories being awarded to protesters in the hopes of distracting them from true justice.

And it works considering most of the protesters could care less about True Justice also and more about show justice that makes them feel good about their pathetic selves.

Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?

Definitely would work great in a situation like this where supposedly "Peaceful" protesters will shoot at your car if you don't let them assault you.

The bullet will just bounce off the sloped armor and you can slowly drive right on by.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:49 am

Ors Might wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Sacrifices must be made for the sake of a better tomorrow. What cause could be greater than that of a society built upon tank treads?


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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:36 am

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:48 am

Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html

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Postby Aeritai » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:52 am

Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:55 am

Aeritai wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.
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Postby Atheris » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:55 am

Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html

One of the comments says "Man, Jaws is about to be labeled a propaganda film."

Give that man a medal.
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:04 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.


I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:12 am

Greed and Death wrote:What did the little mermaid do ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cop ... 35040.html


Alright, this has to be trolling.
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Postby The Marlborough » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:This too, citizens should be able to own tanks.

How will you be paying for that?

Crowdfund it.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Wait the Mermaid statue is racist now?

I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.

I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:09 am

WeKnow wrote:I was referring what was done to the natives to even begin US, let alone the sheerest irony that the same people who are caucasian and resultant of immigrants pillaging upon invasion are now the type to say they are the natives and who loathe all outsiders (even kind and well-meaning ones).

Smallpox and other diseases did most of the heavy lifting on that front, but, in any case, the essential nature of the abuses is not too much more problematic than what occurred else-where. The two distinctions that spring readily to mind are the sheer scale of the devastation, which has seldom been equalled historically, and the introduction of a racial hierarchy where, in olden times, a civic, ethnic, or aristocratic hierarchy would have been employed to divide society.

A lot of the indigenous nations, especially beginning at the inception of the so-called Indian Wars, adopted a hostile stance towards incursions even by ostensibly peaceful surveyors and settlers because they understood that agricultural and industrial development of the land they inhabitted was incompatible with their way of life. It's not really altogether surprising then that the present population is likewise resistance to large-scale immigration that results in cultural and economic shifts. It's functionally the same phenomenon repeating itself. But we're getting a bit off-topic and this particular topic is more of an appetizer for the topic of the thread itself.

WeKnow wrote:I speak not just of the horrific corruption and conquest mentality that US has towards the middle east or Africa during its slave trade but that the very nation itself is founded by and for white supremacist psychopaths. There was not a single founder who was not complicit in it and any who spoke out against it were silenced and bullied by those very founders.

First and foremost, that's not true and suggests a very narrow, reductionist, and confused understanding of who precisely the Founders were. They were a diverse group of people with disparate aims, ideologies, and attitudes towards racial equality. Several Founders spoke against slavery and the extermination of indigenous peoples. So that entire argument is ahistorical nonsense. Additionally, the founders of the other polities I mentioned all have the same problems on a large-scale.

WeKnow wrote:Whether you are Zulu or American or any ethnicity at all, celebrate and respect the parts of your history you think deserve that pride. If you choose to celebrate disgusting parts of your history and glorify people who were very significant in those horrors and you then glorify them as nigh-saintly, don't be shocked when an outraged protest many generations later happens to feel the opposite way. It's only natural, in my eyes at least.

They don't glorify them because of the horrors or atrocities. They glorify them because in spite or even because of those atrocities they managed to do worthwhile things. Shaka Zulu created larger, more centralized, and more viable polities by initiating the Mfecane. The leaders of the Sioux allowed their nation to flourish by driving out or subjugating the Cheyenne and Arikara. And the protests don't matter all that much. That's an appeal to popular appeal which is sadly undermined by the fact that the general public doesn't really agree with these protestors.


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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:11 am

Luminesa wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't wish to alarm the thread, but it's possible that some vandalism is done by people just having the lulz.

I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.

I can argue that it is deeply racist if you want but that would be an effort-post.

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Postby Atheris » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:16 am

Fahran wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I would seriously hope that nobody actually thinks The Little Mermaid is somehow racist, but I do hope someone cleans that graffiti off regardless.

I can argue that it is deeply racist if you want but that would be an effort-post.

She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:18 am

Atheris wrote:She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.

"I will assert herein that Ariel's desire for legs is a metaphor symbolizing the desire of the tragic mulatta to assimilate into whiteness and pass as a respectable member of society in a social order rooted on a fundamental level in white supremacy."

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Postby Atheris » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:23 am

Fahran wrote:
Atheris wrote:She's just a fish girl that wants legs, man.

"I will assert herein that Ariel's desire for legs is a metaphor symbolizing the desire of the tragic mulatta to assimilate into whiteness and pass as a respectable member of society in a social order rooted on a fundamental level in white supremacy."

And her having 8?
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:47 am

Aeritai wrote:I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.

BLM has supported some really great causes and held some protests that I thought were worthwhile. The basic message is a good one too. BLM has a lot of problems though and, at this point, I'm hesitant to view the movement as a uniformly or even principally good one, especially outside of the United States and the issue of police brutality.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:46 pm

Fahran wrote:
Aeritai wrote:I'm aware of that and it's a shame too, I see the BLM protest as a good cause and the fact that some people are using the protest to vandalize and rob stores is quite sad.

BLM has supported some really great causes and held some protests that I thought were worthwhile. The basic message is a good one too. BLM has a lot of problems though and, at this point, I'm hesitant to view the movement as a uniformly or even principally good one, especially outside of the United States and the issue of police brutality.

What great causes, you mean the removal of Statues and Monuments? Defund the Police?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:02 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Clearly the solution is to subsidize the ever living hell out of tanks for the civilian market.


I dunno man gas prices are high enough with out me having to feed the beast 40 gallons of diesel every morning

Clearly tankers owners deserve a fuel subsidy.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:What great causes, you mean the removal of Statues and Monuments? Defund the Police?

Wanting to arrest police officers who use excessive force.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:19 pm

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