Washington & Jefferson Statue Get Pulled Down

[Northern Davincia]

That can be said of most of the Founders. History is often too complicated to simply revere or demonize it's actors. Except Hitler and the Nazis, and probably the other fascists as well. Fuck them.

History is too complicated to simply revere Washington, so instead name parts of the country after him and build monuments to him everywhere and build a five hundred foot obelisk in his memory. Nuance!

If the US becomes majority pagan, I also favor elevating Washington to the status of demigod.

[Ifreann]

History is too complicated to simply revere Washington, so instead name parts of the country after him and build monuments to him everywhere and build a five hundred foot obelisk in his memory. Nuance!

If the US becomes majority pagan, I also favor elevating Washington to the status of demigod.

Yes, that's not surprising.

[Diarcesia]

History is too complicated to simply revere Washington, so instead name parts of the country after him and build monuments to him everywhere and build a five hundred foot obelisk in his memory. Nuance!

If the US becomes majority pagan, I also favor elevating Washington to the status of demigod.

Doesn't he have an artwork literally called apotheosis?

[Kowani]

You support Pinochet lmao

Is tu quoque relevant?

Yes.

[South Odreria 2]

That target refused to see things that would’ve helped people deal with tear gas.
Not “refused to stock”, just “we won’t sell.”
Fuck that.

They have a right not to sell, and it's still not justification for arson.

They certainly do not have a right not to sell.

[South Odreria 2]

History is too complicated to simply revere Washington, so instead name parts of the country after him and build monuments to him everywhere and build a five hundred foot obelisk in his memory. Nuance!

If the US becomes majority pagan, I also favor elevating Washington to the status of demigod.

Based.

[Czechostan]

If the US becomes majority pagan, I also favor elevating Washington to the status of demigod.

Doesn't he have an artwork literally called apotheosis?

Yup. And we got a statue of Lincoln sitting on a throne like the statue of Zeus. All hail the infallible Founders!

[Northern Davincia]

Is tu quoque relevant?

Yes.

Insofar as we both have our accepted forms of political violence, only mine is in defense of private property.

They have a right not to sell, and it's still not justification for arson.

They certainly do not have a right not to sell.

Why?

[Salus Maior]

Doesn't he have an artwork literally called apotheosis?

Yup. And we got a statue of Lincoln sitting on a throne like the statue of Zeus. All hail the infallible Founders!

Which of course Washington outright said people should not do.

He wouldn't have even liked the Washington Monument.

[Salus Maior]

That can be said of most of the Founders. History is often too complicated to simply revere or demonize it's actors. Except Hitler and the Nazis, and probably the other fascists as well. Fuck them.

History is too complicated to simply revere Washington, so instead name parts of the country after him and build monuments to him everywhere and build a five hundred foot obelisk in his memory. Nuance!

We shouldn't pretend he's some sort of saint, but without the efforts Washington went to, the Republic likely would not have survived its infancy. And, comparatively, he was also very tolerant and supportive of American minority groups such as Catholics and Jews and assured them their freedom. He's also mostly responsible for setting up a Presidency with limited powers and terms.

Washington at his best exemplifies the best of what an American president should be in my opinion; insofar as he treated the position with an incredible amount of respect and wasn't a power-monger, and sought to use it in service to the country.

[South Odreria 2]

Yes.

Insofar as we both have our accepted forms of political violence, only mine is in defense of private property.

They certainly do not have a right not to sell.

Why?

I think you already know why, I don’t believe in unlimited freedom of property. If people are being gassed you should sell them medical supplies.

[Northern Davincia]

Insofar as we both have our accepted forms of political violence, only mine is in defense of private property.

Why?

I think you already know why, I don’t believe in unlimited freedom of property. If people are being gassed you should sell them medical supplies.

At that point, it begs the question as to why you'd want them to sell it as opposed to the mob having a right to take it freely.

[Aeritai]

Yup. And we got a statue of Lincoln sitting on a throne like the statue of Zeus. All hail the infallible Founders!

Which of course Washington outright said people should not do.

He wouldn't have even liked the Washington Monument.

Really? Interesting.

[Kowani]

Yes.

Insofar as we both have our accepted forms of political violence, only mine is in defense of private

Yes, you support legalized tyranny.
Next.

[Salus Maior]

Which of course Washington outright said people should not do.

He wouldn't have even liked the Washington Monument.

Really? Interesting.

Yeah, he explicitly said no one should deify him or make monuments to him.

Certain Americans have ignored that, clearly.

[South Odreria 2]

I think you already know why, I don’t believe in unlimited freedom of property. If people are being gassed you should sell them medical supplies.

At that point, it begs the question as to why you'd want them to sell it as opposed to the mob having a right to take it freely.

Because I think stealing is wrong.

[Aeritai]

Really? Interesting.

Yeah, he explicitly said no one should deify him or make monuments to him.

Certain Americans have ignored that, clearly.

A very humble President indeed.

[Czechostan]

Really? Interesting.

Yeah, he explicitly said no one should deify him or make monuments to him.

Certain Americans have ignored that, clearly.

I'm wondering how George felt about Washington D.C. being named after him... It seems he didn't have any comment on it, as far as I know, which is interesting.

[Northern Davincia]

Insofar as we both have our accepted forms of political violence, only mine is in defense of private

Yes, you support legalized tyranny.
Next.

I had figured the socialist would be more acquainted with tyranny than anyone.

At that point, it begs the question as to why you'd want them to sell it as opposed to the mob having a right to take it freely.

Because I think stealing is wrong.

Isn't it effectively the same?

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, he explicitly said no one should deify him or make monuments to him.

Certain Americans have ignored that, clearly.

I'm wondering how George felt about Washington D.C. being named after him... It seems he didn't have any comment on it, as far as I know, which is interesting.

Hm, don't know. Can't seem to find anything either.

[South Odreria 2]

Yes, you support legalized tyranny.
Next.

I had figured the socialist would be more acquainted with tyranny than anyone.

Because I think stealing is wrong.

Isn't it effectively the same?

No.

[Kowani]

Yes, you support legalized tyranny.
Next.

I had figured the socialist would be more acquainted with tyranny than anyone.[quote]
At fighting it, yes.

[Northern Davincia]

At fighting it, yes.

Although it's fun to believe in the converging of timelines, that has happened in none of them.

[Salus Maior]

I think you already know why, I don’t believe in unlimited freedom of property. If people are being gassed you should sell them medical supplies.

At that point, it begs the question as to why you'd want them to sell it as opposed to the mob having a right to take it freely.

If the medical sector, whose job it is to provide medical supplies and assistance in society, is not effectively doing that job, then it's only reasonable to change things so that they will do their job.

[Northern Davincia]

At that point, it begs the question as to why you'd want them to sell it as opposed to the mob having a right to take it freely.

If the medical sector, whose job it is to provide medical supplies and assistance in society, is not effectively doing that job, then it's only reasonable to change things so that they will do their job.

The medical sector's job in the US is to turn a profit. All else is secondary. Even so, it would be wrong to burn down a private hospital.