Washington & Jefferson Statue Get Pulled Down

[Northern Davincia]

No.

Why not ?

Because my preference is for town councils to decide these things, not mobs. This is ignoring the extreme moral gap between the Founders and literally Satan.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Why not ?

Because my preference is for town councils to decide these things, not mobs. This is ignoring the extreme moral gap between the Founders and literally Satan.

Both fought for freedom against unjust monarchs

[Northern Davincia]

Indeed I do, but I feel as though unlawfully tearing down a statue should carry a sentence of two or three years. The point is still made, and the punishment fits better.

Again, I'm shooting for the stars, so the moon may be hit. It would probably be closer to what you want in the end.

Perhaps, but if you want to make rioters hurt, charge them for repairs.

Because my preference is for town councils to decide these things, not mobs. This is ignoring the extreme moral gap between the Founders and literally Satan.

Both fought for freedom against unjust monarchs

reeeeeeee

[Nobel Hobos 2]

15 years is massively out of proportion for vandalism which I believe has a 1 year maximum.

Given the extreme backlash to all this I'd feel pretty comfortable saying a not insignificant amount of people view it as worse than petty vandalism.

Oh, yes, let's assign punishments depending on how much noise the public makes about a crime, at a time of high civil tensions. I can see that going well.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Given the extreme backlash to all this I'd feel pretty comfortable saying a not insignificant amount of people view it as worse than petty vandalism.

Oh, yes, let's assign punishments depending on how much noise the public makes about a crime, at a time of high civil tensions. I can see that going well.

That's pretty much what we're doing already. If there weren't mass protests and backlash the cop who shot that guy in Georgia never would have been charged.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"a statue of a founding father" is where the problem lies. Unless you're going to provide equal protection to ANY public statue, your law is going to die.

Equal protection is for people charged with a crime though.

I plainly mean legal protection for all statues, or none.
You can't have more legal protection for certain statues depending on who they're statues of.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Given the extreme backlash to all this I'd feel pretty comfortable saying a not insignificant amount of people view it as worse than petty vandalism.

Well in that case, it'll come down to the opinion of whatever judge rules on the case, and then the SCOTUS, since this would be a contentious issue, and would likely be appealed till it reaches the top.

Regardless of how the SCOTUS rules, it would show a willingness of nationalists to fight commies and drag 'em through the courts.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Oh, yes, let's assign punishments depending on how much noise the public makes about a crime, at a time of high civil tensions. I can see that going well.

That's pretty much what we're doing already. If there weren't mass protests and backlash the cop who shot that guy in Georgia never would have been charged.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Well in that case, it'll come down to the opinion of whatever judge rules on the case, and then the SCOTUS, since this would be a contentious issue, and would likely be appealed till it reaches the top.

Regardless of how the SCOTUS rules, it would show a willingness of nationalists to fight commies and drag 'em through the courts.

That's pretty sad. "We lost, but at least we put up a fight. Shame about all the statues that will be destroyed"

[The Reformed American Republic]

Regardless of how the SCOTUS rules, it would show a willingness of nationalists to fight commies and drag 'em through the courts.

That's pretty sad. "We lost, but at least we put up a fight. Shame about all the statues that will be destroyed"

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Why not ?

Because my preference is for town councils to decide these things, not mobs. This is ignoring the extreme moral gap between the Founders and literally Satan.

I am very rarely for local government on anything, but I agree it is their role to decide what statues are put up or stay up.
I'd like them to consult with the people on election day ... not generally for direct democracy but it seems appropriate.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

That's pretty sad. "We lost, but at least we put up a fight. Shame about all the statues that will be destroyed"

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

Boasting about how you would boast about committing a crime ... actually badly discredits you.

Communists were effectively banned until Brandenburg. Having communists in the United States is the price you pay for freedom of speech.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

Boasting about how you would boast about committing a crime ... actually badly discredits you.

Communists were effectively banned until Brandenburg. Having communists in the United States is the price you pay for freedom of speech.

Well, I'm damned by you if I do or if I don't anyway.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Boasting about how you would boast about committing a crime ... actually badly discredits you.

Communists were effectively banned until Brandenburg. Having communists in the United States is the price you pay for freedom of speech.

Well, I'm damned by you if I do or if I don't anyway.

You'd probably do better against an actual Communist. There are a few around.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

That's pretty sad. "We lost, but at least we put up a fight. Shame about all the statues that will be destroyed"

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

As if each and every person who supports statues coming down is a communist.

[Ifreann]

Conventionally? We arrest those who engage in vandalism and who strive to subvert policy and culture through less than legal means. And that should have been the initial response to iconoclasms and desecrations. We're hindered somewhat by the ill-discipline or cowardice of the police and the complicity of local officials in many places.

As I said before, tearing down a statue of a founding father should be punished by 15 years in prison. It would stop this shit quick if a bunch of people were arrested and sent to prison over this.

No it wouldn't. Harsh punishments don't prevent crime.

[Purpelia]

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

As if each and every person who supports statues coming down is a communist.

No, but they are idiots. And there is a reasonable overlap between the two to the point where you could be forgiven for confusing them.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

As if each and every person who supports statues coming down is a communist.

No, but they are idiots. And there is a reasonable overlap between the two to the point where you could be forgiven for confusing them.

There are far more idiots in the world than communists, so no you can't be forgiven for confusing them.

EDIT: Came out wrong the first time, sorry.

[Baltenstein]

I also support other tactics if the Supreme Court sides with communists. Ones I wouldn't share on this site because of this.

As if each and every person who supports statues coming down is a communist.

Given that Communist states have historically been obsessed with planting statues of Glorious Leaders everywhere, this is rather ironic.

[Picairn]

Given that Communist states have historically been obsessed with planting statues of Glorious Leaders everywhere, this is rather ironic.

You mean Authoritarian Communist states? Actual Communists would force these ancoms to line up against the wall and shoot them all, because they are a threat to the state.

[Atheris]

Given that Communist states have historically been obsessed with planting statues of Glorious Leaders everywhere, this is rather ironic.

You mean Authoritarian Communist states? Actual Communists would force these ancoms to line up against the wall and shoot them all, because they are a threat to the state.

And then put up the statues of Glorious Leader.

[Ifreann]

Don't forget that there's a statue of Lenin in the US and no one wants to tear it down. Mostly because of all the fun they have vandalising it.

[Farnhamia]

Don't forget that there's a statue of Lenin in the US and no one wants to tear it down. Mostly because of all the fun they have vandalising it.

In Seattle, yeah. There was a homeless guy living inside it when it was adorning a junkyard in the Czech Republic.

[Ethel mermania]

Don't forget that there's a statue of Lenin in the US and no one wants to tear it down. Mostly because of all the fun they have vandalising it.

I always liked this one.

[Ifreann]

Don't forget that there's a statue of Lenin in the US and no one wants to tear it down. Mostly because of all the fun they have vandalising it.

I always liked this one.

"Comrades! Look at the time!"