RWDT XXI: The Apocalypse is Now

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

ok, rwdt xxi statistical analysis will be performed on an arbitrarily-chosen four sets of ten contiguous pages once this thread reaches 400-ish posts, so be on your best/worst behavior at all times if you want to get your desired score

furthermore, here is a right-wing topic for discussion: would cinema exist in your vision of society?

Yes, and I'd favour establishing a publicly-funded national film studio with a mandate to domestically produce quality films of an educational and/or artistic nature. When I was visiting Russia, my tour guide was an older woman born under the Soviet Union, and something of a cinephile. Though she was by no means a rabid Soviet apologist, she was nostalgic about some elements of the USSR, one of which was the film industry. In her view, the quality of Russian cinema took a significant tumble once it was privatised and became motivated by commercialism. Capitalism has many points in its favour but the profit motive is toxic to the arts.

This is a great idea, I want to expand on it but lockdown has destroyed 20 of my IQ points, now I only have 40 more than cekoviu

Edit: as I said earlier about teh state and the people and so on, cinema should serve the artistic and cultural needs of the body political, not be lame, uncontrolled commercial ventures. cinema and film is such a powerful tool - too powerful to be left in the hands of investors, anyway

[Cekoviu]

Yes, and I'd favour establishing a publicly-funded national film studio with a mandate to domestically produce quality films of an educational and/or artistic nature. When I was visiting Russia, my tour guide was an older woman born under the Soviet Union, and something of a cinephile. Though she was by no means a rabid Soviet apologist, she was nostalgic about some elements of the USSR, one of which was the film industry. In her view, the quality of Russian cinema took a significant tumble once it was privatised and became motivated by commercialism. Capitalism has many points in its favour but the profit motive is toxic to the arts.

This is a great idea, I want to expand on it but lockdown has destroyed 20 of my IQ points, now I only have 40 more than cekoviu

>tfw just got put on suicide watch by a 160 y/o english"man" whose only discernible personality trait is liking boats

[Diopolis]

This is a great idea, I want to expand on it but lockdown has destroyed 20 of my IQ points, now I only have 40 more than cekoviu

>tfw just got put on suicide watch by a 160 y/o english"man" whose only discernible personality trait is liking boats

Hey, boats are cool. Don't knock boats.

[The East Marches II]

ok, rwdt xxi statistical analysis will be performed on an arbitrarily-chosen four sets of ten contiguous pages once this thread reaches 400-ish posts, so be on your best/worst behavior at all times if you want to get your desired score

furthermore, here is a right-wing topic for discussion: would cinema exist in your vision of society?

Yes it would be it would be much better than the trash multiple reboots Hollywood keeps putting out. It would be very avante garde. Most of you would hate it :^)

Edit: to be clear I would have final authority on any film or TV show to be made or shown

[Proctopeo]

>tfw just got put on suicide watch by a 160 y/o english"man" whose only discernible personality trait is liking boats

Hey, boats are cool. Don't knock boats.

The wise Gustavus Adolphus knew this when he founded Boat Mormonism.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

This is a great idea, I want to expand on it but lockdown has destroyed 20 of my IQ points, now I only have 40 more than cekoviu

>tfw just got put on suicide watch by a 160 y/o english"man" whose only discernible personality trait is liking boats

Don't kill yourself, it's not fair on the person who has to take your place at the bottom

Jk btw, you are a quality poster

[Kowani]

Hey, boats are cool. Don't knock boats.

The wise Gustavus Adolphus knew this when he founded Boat Mormonism.

I see someone’s been playing Civ.

[Proctopeo]

The wise Gustavus Adolphus knew this when he founded Boat Mormonism.

I see someone’s been playing Civ.

I don't play it as much as I used to, but Civ V is still very fun.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

[The East Marches II]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

Dredd was close. You might like that one. It was the first sci-fi I saw that did really well in terms of trying as of late. I've stopped going to see the new movies. The quality never improves. It's just predictable trash. Foreign films have some good ones now and again.

[Kowani]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

I thought Silence of the Lambs was pretty decent.

But also, I don’t watch much cinema.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

I thought Silence of the Lambs was pretty decent.

But also, I don’t watch much cinema.

Silence of the Lambs is a great film. Seriously. Fantastic.

But art it is not. The book, Silence of the Lambs, is art.

[Cekoviu]

>tfw just got put on suicide watch by a 160 y/o english"man" whose only discernible personality trait is liking boats

Don't kill yourself, it's not fair on the person who has to take your place at the bottom

Jk btw, you are a quality poster

science disagrees

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

i agree, actually. the bbc makes good documentaries sometimes, but that's essentially all that's left in the moviemaking industry that could be considered artistically valuable.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

Dredd was close. You might like that one. It was the first sci-fi I saw that did really well in terms of trying as of late. I've stopped going to see the new movies. The quality never improves. It's just predictable trash. Foreign films have some good ones now and again.

Yes non English sometimes has good films (and er, anime lmao).

Western films can be cool, or fun, or funny, or tearful. But art they are not. Even classics like groundhog day which are from just before the cutoff where we all became nuts I can't imagine as art.

[The East Marches II]

Gary Oldman and Clive Owen in the BMW short movie that was meant to be an ad. That was really top notch too. Hollywood can make good movies. There is no profit in it.

[The Archbishopric of York]

lets be honest, when was the last time privately owned cinema produced anything like art? most modern films are trash. they commit the audience to recognise and repeat the tropes provided by the the film rather than to re-imagine its context. they almost never happen on an epic scale. they're almost all forgettable.

I like Quentin Tarantino's films. I would definitely consider Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs to qualify as art, although I suppose that you could make the argument that Tarantino's films are pretty derivative given that he likes to draw inspiration from older films and many of his works are pastiches of late 20th century genre films and/or books (Jackie Brown is a tribute to blaxploitation films, Kill Bill to martial arts movies and Japanese cinema, etc.). Not that I'm claiming to be a great cinematic critic or anything.

EDIT: Joker was also very excellently done film, although again it was pretty derivative (apart from the obvious basis in the comics, I'm told it borrowed heavily from Taxi Driver).

[The East Marches II]

Dredd was close. You might like that one. It was the first sci-fi I saw that did really well in terms of trying as of late. I've stopped going to see the new movies. The quality never improves. It's just predictable trash. Foreign films have some good ones now and again.

Yes non English sometimes has good films (and er, anime lmao).

Western films can be cool, or fun, or funny, or tearful. But art they are not. Even classics like groundhog day which are from just before the cutoff where we all became nuts I can't imagine as art.

Snatch should count as art. How to make a movie sized shitpost.

[Cekoviu]

Yes non English sometimes has good films (and er, anime lmao).

Western films can be cool, or fun, or funny, or tearful. But art they are not. Even classics like groundhog day which are from just before the cutoff where we all became nuts I can't imagine as art.

Snatch should count as art. How to make a movie sized shitpost.

shitposting is never art

[The New California Republic]

Thanks the Village Green SSR!

*leaves cookies*

uh oh, looks like NCR took over questers' account. everyone hide or you might get a two week vacation!

Lel.

[Kowani]

I thought Silence of the Lambs was pretty decent.

But also, I don’t watch much cinema.

Silence of the Lambs is a great film. Seriously. Fantastic.

But art it is not. The book, Silence of the Lambs, is art.

I’m curious, what d’you you consider to be art? ‘Cause while I don’t think it’s controversial to say that Michael Bay is not an artistic genius, or that even the more artistic directors like Spielberg can do mass produced commercialized mush, I don’t know where the cutoff is.

[The East Marches II]

Silence of the Lambs is a great film. Seriously. Fantastic.

But art it is not. The book, Silence of the Lambs, is art.

I’m curious, what d’you you consider to be art? ‘Cause while I don’t think it’s controversial to say that Michael Bay is not an artistic genius, or that even the more artistic directors like Spielberg can do mass produced commercialized mush, I don’t know where the cutoff is.

Whatever the Oscars hate automatically qualifies

[The East Marches II]

Snatch should count as art. How to make a movie sized shitpost.

shitposting is never art

A good shitpost requires talent, a certain deftness of touch and good humor, all while hitting home to a soft point or nerve :^)

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

I like Quentin Tarantino's films. I would definitely consider Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs to qualify as art, although I suppose that you could make the argument that Tarantino's films are pretty derivative given that he likes to draw inspiration from older films and many of his works are pastiches of late 20th century genre films and/or books (Jackie Brown is a tribute to blaxploitation films, Kill Bill to martial arts movies and Japanese cinema, etc.). Not that I'm claiming to be a great cinematic critic or anything.

Fucking hell.

QUENTIN TARANTINO is NOT art.

Quentin Tarantino films are exploitation. They take real life memetics that everyone can understand and blow them up to giant proportions as a way to mock people who don't think that culture can be expressed only in memetics. They're fundamentally anti-civilisation, cinema produced with neither panache nor raw power, just an endless torrent of artistic explosion.

When I ascend to the General-Secretaryship all Tarantino films will be destroyed. His face will be printed in the textbooks of cinema as an example of future generations to not copy.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Yes non English sometimes has good films (and er, anime lmao).

Western films can be cool, or fun, or funny, or tearful. But art they are not. Even classics like groundhog day which are from just before the cutoff where we all became nuts I can't imagine as art.

Snatch should count as art. How to make a movie sized shitpost.

Snatch is a hilarious, awesome film. I must have seen it five or six times. But it's not art.

[Cekoviu]

shitposting is never art

A good shitpost requires talent, a certain deftness of touch and good humor, all while hitting home to a soft point or nerve :^)

it requires skill, yes, but art is not all which requires skill.