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Which Cold War era US President was the best?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:54 am

Harry S. Truman (1945–1953)
2
3%
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953–1961)
25
32%
John F. Kennedy (1961–1963)
17
22%
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963–1969)
6
8%
Richard Nixon (1969–1974)
7
9%
Gerald Ford (1974–1977)
0
No votes
Jimmy Carter (1977–1981)
3
4%
Ronald Reagan (1981–1989)
12
16%
George H. W. Bush (1989–1993)
1
1%
All of the Above/None of the Above/Other (please specify)
4
5%
 
Total votes : 77

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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:24 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Luminesa wrote:To be fair, anything is better than that, but seriously advocating this idea will get RWDT shut-down. So let's...nip it in the bud?


That's an odd thing to say. Nip it in the bud? You're not a moderator. You must be an inside man.

I’ve been on RWDT as a semi-regular since Herskerstad and Old Tyrannia were its OPs. I’m no “inside man”. Ya’ll are unironically gonna get in trouble, you’re gonna lose this thread for ALL OF US, and a ton of ya’ll are gonna get banned. The rulebook specifically says we cannot link websites which benefit us specifically. Now knock this off, please. I like coming here to talk. Sure, a lot of my friends have left this website, but I still enjoy RWDT on occasion.
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Postby Joohan » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:25 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:Right wingers:
>claim charity works better than government welfare
>won’t pony up half a million to buy a website


We've got a sugar daddy on stand by
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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South Odreria 2
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:26 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
That's an odd thing to say. Nip it in the bud? You're not a moderator. You must be an inside man.

I’ve been on RWDT as a semi-regular since Herskerstad and Old Tyrannia were its OPs. I’m no “inside man”. Ya’ll are unironically gonna get in trouble, you’re gonna lose this thread for ALL OF US, and a ton of ya’ll are gonna get banned. The rulebook specifically says we cannot link websites which benefit us specifically. Now knock this off, please. I like coming here to talk. Sure, a lot of my friends have left this website, but I still enjoy RWDT on occasion.

Whatever, spook. Link was never there.
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:27 pm

The Village Green SSR wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I’d be terrible, I have all the stealth of an excited squirrel.


It's the family-friendly action/comedy film of the summer! Rated PG-13.

But who will play Lumi in this future blockbuster?
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Luminesa
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:27 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I’ve been on RWDT as a semi-regular since Herskerstad and Old Tyrannia were its OPs. I’m no “inside man”. Ya’ll are unironically gonna get in trouble, you’re gonna lose this thread for ALL OF US, and a ton of ya’ll are gonna get banned. The rulebook specifically says we cannot link websites which benefit us specifically. Now knock this off, please. I like coming here to talk. Sure, a lot of my friends have left this website, but I still enjoy RWDT on occasion.

Whatever, spook. Link was never there.

Ya’ll are nuts if you think I’m actually a spook. Marches literally said for people in the thread (myself included) to not be stupid and to make stupid decisions. That was a stupid decision. I’m sorry.
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and the greatest is love."
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:29 pm

Luminesa wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Whatever, spook. Link was never there.

Ya’ll are nuts if you think I’m actually a spook. Marches literally said for people in the thread (myself included) to not be stupid and to make stupid decisions. That was a stupid decision. I’m sorry.

Was joke.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:32 pm

When the NS wars come, we now know who the revolutionaries will be - and the traitors will be.
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:32 pm

The Village Green SSR wrote:If I may, what the flying flip is going on? This all seems like a very bad idea, no offense intended.


Also, did you not title this thread as: The Apocalypse is Now?
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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The Village Green SSR
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Postby The Village Green SSR » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:34 pm

Joohan wrote:
The Village Green SSR wrote:If I may, what the flying flip is going on? This all seems like a very bad idea, no offense intended.


Also, did you not title this thread as: The Apocalypse is Now?


It was intended as a joking reference to the pandemic and such. Should I change the title?
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- Mozi, if memory serves me right.

Also, to those who had to endure it, I apologize once more for the utter cringe of my adolescence...

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Bear Stearns
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:35 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:Right wingers:
>claim charity works better than government welfare
>won’t pony up half a million to buy a website


beginning due diligence on a price - looking at what websites similar to NS have been sold for and then I'll approach Max.

As I understand, he briefly sold NS back in ~2004 and it was a disastrous experience. Ended up buying the site back. I will need to work out a way to convince him to sell. Perhaps he wants to retire.

Or we just spread the rumor that this is a far-right Nazi hangout and the ensuing bad press gets Max cancelled and he sells to avoid further bad publicity.
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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:36 pm

The Village Green SSR wrote:
Joohan wrote:
Also, did you not title this thread as: The Apocalypse is Now?


It was intended as a joking reference to the pandemic and such. Should I change the title?


RWDT XXI: The Business Plot, does have a kind of sexy ring to it.
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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Joohan
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Postby Joohan » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:37 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Right wingers:
>claim charity works better than government welfare
>won’t pony up half a million to buy a website


beginning due diligence on a price - looking at what websites similar to NS have been sold for and then I'll approach Max.

As I understand, he briefly sold NS back in ~2004 and it was a disastrous experience. Ended up buying the site back. I will need to work out a way to convince him to sell. Perhaps he wants to retire.

Or we just spread the rumor that this is a far-right Nazi hangout and the ensuing bad press gets Max cancelled and he sells to avoid further bad publicity.


We'll get Dio or some other madlads to start leaving " Positive Reviews " for NS
If you need a witness look to yourself

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism!


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Postby Cisairse » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:39 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:https://www.gofundme.com/f/orbiter-lives-matter?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1


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The Marlborough
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Postby The Marlborough » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:42 pm

Luminesa wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Whatever, spook. Link was never there.

Ya’ll are nuts if you think I’m actually a spook. Marches literally said for people in the thread (myself included) to not be stupid and to make stupid decisions. That was a stupid decision. I’m sorry.

Lumi, I think they're just joking.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:42 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Village Green SSR wrote:
Then if the RWDT is an idea, it is a very bad one. :^)



As much as I'd pay to see Secret Agent Lumi in cinemas, I doubt she's a spy.

I’d be terrible, I have all the stealth of an excited squirrel.

So does James Bond and he has excellent job security.
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The Village Green SSR
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Postby The Village Green SSR » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I’d be terrible, I have all the stealth of an excited squirrel.

So does James Bond and he has excellent job security.


James Bond gets to live a hedonistic lifestyle on the British taxpayers' dime (pence? pounds? shillings?). I'm surprised he isn't in the (in-universe) papers more; scandals of that caliber sell copies, after all.
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Universal love is to regard another's state as one's own. A person of universal love will take care of his friend as he does of himself, and take care of his friend's parents as his own. So when he finds his friend hungry he will feed him, and when he finds him cold he will clothe him...
- Mozi, if memory serves me right.

Also, to those who had to endure it, I apologize once more for the utter cringe of my adolescence...

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:46 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:beginning due diligence on a price - looking at what websites similar to NS have been sold for and then I'll approach Max.

As I understand, he briefly sold NS back in ~2004 and it was a disastrous experience. Ended up buying the site back. I will need to work out a way to convince him to sell. Perhaps he wants to retire.


He sold (?) NationStates II to Jolt in 2008 which afaik resulted in a total desaster with NS going nowhere and everything falling apart. It in turn lead then subsequently also to a revitalization of NS proper and also the establishment of the attached phpBB forum. The exact details elude me though.

Bear Stearns wrote:Or we just spread the rumor that this is a far-right Nazi hangout and the ensuing bad press gets Max cancelled and he sells to avoid further bad publicity.


Actually NSG is considered by the rest of NS to be the containment board. Specifically an containment board for fascists.

It's semi official policy in various regions that it's members are being discouraged to engage in NSG and advised to avoid discussions there.
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Postby Italios » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:48 pm

Joohan wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Start by campaigning the advertisers to stop supporting a haven for fascism.


Ugh, you're brilliant. I'll just link them a bunch of Dio's posts

Diop is far, far too powerful. if anything, the advertisers will just become gun-slinging, meat-smoking, one-glass-of-wine a day, blackberry-picking, franco-loving Thomists. its too dangerous. they might even, God forbid, start reading Unz review and NPI.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:51 pm

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:beginning due diligence on a price - looking at what websites similar to NS have been sold for and then I'll approach Max.

As I understand, he briefly sold NS back in ~2004 and it was a disastrous experience. Ended up buying the site back. I will need to work out a way to convince him to sell. Perhaps he wants to retire.


He sold (?) NationStates II to Jolt in 2008 which afaik resulted in a total desaster with NS going nowhere and everything falling apart. It in turn lead then subsequently also to a revitalization of NS proper and also the establishment of the attached phpBB forum. The exact details elude me though.

Bear Stearns wrote:Or we just spread the rumor that this is a far-right Nazi hangout and the ensuing bad press gets Max cancelled and he sells to avoid further bad publicity.


Actually NSG is considered by the rest of NS to be the containment board. Specifically an containment board for fascists.

It's semi official policy in various regions that it's members are being discouraged to engage in NSG and advised to avoid discussions there.

It appears that our superiority has sparked some controversy.
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South Odreria 2
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:52 pm

Imagine doing regional gameplay
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Bear Stearns
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:53 pm

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:beginning due diligence on a price - looking at what websites similar to NS have been sold for and then I'll approach Max.

As I understand, he briefly sold NS back in ~2004 and it was a disastrous experience. Ended up buying the site back. I will need to work out a way to convince him to sell. Perhaps he wants to retire.


He sold (?) NationStates II to Jolt in 2008 which afaik resulted in a total desaster with NS going nowhere and everything falling apart. It in turn lead then subsequently also to a revitalization of NS proper and also the establishment of the attached phpBB forum. The exact details elude me though.


Ah yes, that sounds more correct. Point is, he might not be willing to sell at all.

Nakena wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Or we just spread the rumor that this is a far-right Nazi hangout and the ensuing bad press gets Max cancelled and he sells to avoid further bad publicity.


Actually NSG is considered by the rest of NS to be the containment board. Specifically an containment board for fascists.

It's semi official policy in various regions that it's members are being discouraged to engage in NSG and advised to avoid discussions there.


What do you mean? The non-forum portion of this website considers NSG to be fascist?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:53 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:Imagine doing regional gameplay


yeah it seems gay as shit
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Postby Italios » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:55 pm

didnt like all of the raiding organizations back in the day use nazi/fascist imagery?
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:57 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Ya’ll are nuts if you think I’m actually a spook. Marches literally said for people in the thread (myself included) to not be stupid and to make stupid decisions. That was a stupid decision. I’m sorry.

Lumi, I think they're just joking.

...I’m terrible at picking-up humor from this website. Darn it. :(
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:57 pm

Italios wrote:didnt like all of the raiding organizations back in the day use nazi/fascist imagery?

Yes, back in the glory days.
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