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Postby Andsed » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:56 am

I doubt things will escalate much further than some boarder skirmishes.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:58 am

Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:58 am

Genivaria wrote:What is the performance record of India's military exactly?


They've done okay against weaker targets, but it looks like the PLA just kicked the shit out of them.
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:59 am

Britain should also offer citizenship to all Indians if China continues their aggression.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:01 pm

Cisairse wrote:Britain should also offer citizenship to all Indians if China continues their aggression.


I'm not sure if you're advocating an Indian conquest of Britain, or a restoration of British rule over India. Your statement could imply either.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:03 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I literally predicted something like this yesterday


I think it's looking like a good chunk of the world is going to want China punished for this.

I think it’s more a generalized desire to take China down a peg.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:04 pm

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Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

Bring back the seven warring states!
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:07 pm

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Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

China is whole again... then it broke again. Let the cycle of unity and dissolution of China continue into the 21st century.

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Postby Cisairse » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:07 pm

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Cisairse wrote:Britain should also offer citizenship to all Indians if China continues their aggression.


I'm not sure if you're advocating an Indian conquest of Britain, or a restoration of British rule over India. Your statement could imply either.

I don't see why the two have to be functionally different.

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:18 pm

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The problem is when one side mistakes a missile strike as a nuclear launch and response in kind.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:20 pm

I hope this does not escalate too much. Also i wonder how many chinese were killed in this?
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:40 pm

Kowani wrote:
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I think it's looking like a good chunk of the world is going to want China punished for this.

I think it’s more a generalized desire to take China down a peg.


Also for others on Xi’s hit list and shit list it is a logical realpolitik realization that if India falls to PRC aggression they are next.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:44 pm

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Genivaria wrote:What is the performance record of India's military exactly?


They've done okay against weaker targets, but it looks like the PLA just kicked the shit out of them.


I am not sure about that. PLA casualties are being reported as some sources as 43 killed or wounded, we do not have enough information to determine who won this particular battle.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:45 pm

This, in conjunction with the DPRK blowing up the liason office at the DMZ, is really making me convinced that the third horseman of the apocalypse is out to play, and I'm not even religious.

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Postby Kanadorika » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:37 pm

It would be nice to see China get utterly humiliated by India, even if that is unlikely. PRC arrogance has got to go.

But war isn't worth it. Still, I'd support a stronger India over a weaker China any day of the week.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:40 pm

NYT now saying 20 dead? Are we about to have some damned foolish thing in the Himalayas lol
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Postby Kanadorika » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:42 pm

Senkaku wrote:NYT now saying 20 dead? Are we about to have some damned foolish thing in the Himalayas lol

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:56 pm

Never thought Beijing would actually be dumb enough to occupy territory in India. Being aggressive and bone-headed about disputes and the South China Sea is one thing, actively settling troops in Indian territory and resorting to violence is something else entirely. It's a level of idiocy that the CCP, malicious as they are, usually avoids in order to maintain some sort of image/their own world standing.

Fuck the PRC, let's see how this goes. I don't think it'll escalate beyond any border skirmishes.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:57 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.


City-State of Shanghai, when?

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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:32 pm

So apparently no bullets were fired.

I don't know if that's true or not, but it has left me imagining the most over-the-top fight sequence that both Bollywood and the Chinese film industry could produce. Hopefully including cameos by Chun-Li and Dhalsim.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:37 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.


Liu Zhongjing thought actually suggests sort of it. I would be surprised if "Kargintina the Third" knows about it though.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:42 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

No, China's been broken up several times in the past, with the most famous periods of this being The 3 Kingdoms Era and just before the Chinese Communist Uprising and subsequent Civil War.

Personally I'd just give Inner Mongolia to Mongolia (Or maybe even take out a chunk of Liaoning and give them a coast), Tibet independence, Uyghurstan protectorate status until it advances enough to stand on its own, give China's bit of Jammu and Kashmir back to India and Pakistan to fight over, and give HK/Macau back to their parent nations or independence (Depending on what hey want).

Oh, and maybe having the US get Dalian because having a city state in China seems cool.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:43 pm

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Kargintina the Third wrote:Balkanize China


Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:47 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Into what...? Outside of some peripheral regions like Tibet and Uyghurland, China is just...China.

No, China's been broken up several times in the past, with the most famous periods of this being The 3 Kingdoms Era and just before the Chinese Communist Uprising and subsequent Civil War.

Notably: Northern and Southern China have spent about as much time separate as together. So it's hardly unprecedented.
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