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Indian Soldiers Die Following Standoff with Chinese Forces

Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:22 am

There was a border standoff with China for a few months now, but for the firs time in decades, it has turned deadly. Three Indian soldiers have been killed by Chinese forces a few hours ago.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476
Three Indian soldiers have been killed in a clash with Chinese forces in Ladakh in the disputed Kashmir region.

The deaths are the first in the disputed border area in at least 45 years, and follow rising military tensions between the nuclear powers.

The Indian army said senior military officials from both sides were "meeting to defuse the situation", adding that both sides suffered casualties.

An Indian army spokesman said the dead were one officer and two soldiers.

China did not confirm any casualties, but accused India of crossing the border in the Galwan Valley.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said India had crossed the border twice on Monday, "provoking and attacking Chinese personnel, resulting in serious physical confrontation between border forces on the two sides", AFP news agency reported.

Both sides insist no bullet has been fired in four decades, and the Indian army said on Tuesday that "no shots were fired" in this latest skirmish.

Local media outlets reported that the Indian soldiers were "beaten to death" but there was no confirmation from the military.
China's Global Times newspaper reported that "solemn representations" had been made with India over the incident.

The clash comes amid rising tensions between the two powers, which have brawled along the border in recent weeks but not exchanged any gunfire.

India has accused China of sending thousands of troops into Ladakh's Galwan valley and says China occupies 38,000sq km (about 14,700sq miles) of its territory. Several rounds of talks in the last three decades have failed to resolve the boundary disputes.

The deaths reported on Tuesday are believed to be the first in decades in a confrontation between the two powers. They have fought only one war so far, in 1962, when India suffered a humiliating defeat.

In May, dozens of Indian and Chinese soldiers exchanged physical blows in a clash on the border in the north-eastern state of Sikkim. And in 2017, the two countries clashed in the region after China tried to extend a border road through a disputed plateau.

Their armies - two of the world's largest - come face to face at many points. The two sides are separated by the poorly demarcated Line of Actual Control (LAC). Rivers, lakes and snowcaps mean the line can shift, provoking confrontation.

There are several reasons why tensions are rising now - but competing strategic goals lie at the root, and both sides blame each other.

India has built a new road in what experts say is the most remote and vulnerable area along the LAC in Ladakh. And India's decision to ramp up infrastructure seems to have infuriated Beijing.

The road could boost Delhi's capability to move men and material rapidly in case of a conflict.

India also disputes part of Kashmir - an ethnically diverse Himalayan region covering about 140,000sq km - with Pakistan.

Over the past week, Indian media have been reporting that troops from both sides had been gradually moving back from their stand-off positions, and that efforts were under way to de-escalate the tensions along the border. So it will come as a surprise to many to hear of a violent clash in which three Indian soldiers were killed.

The last time the two sides exchanged any gunfire along the border was 1975, when four Indian soldiers were killed in a remote pass in north-eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh.

The details of the latest skirmish, and the emergency measures being taken to defuse it, are still unclear.

Whatever the result, the latest incident is likely to trigger a fresh wave of anti-China sentiments in India.

It will also present daunting foreign policy and security challenges to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his government, which is struggling to contain a surge of Covid-19 infections and revive an economy which looks headed for recession.


What is your opinion on this incident?

I think China has gone too far now, they continue claiming large swathes of Indian territory, where Indians live, and continue trying to take control of them. But now they have killed Indian soldiers, who were just protecting the land from Chinese aggression. The world needs to take action against China because it continues to try and bully the rest of Asia to give up land and geopolitical advantages.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:24 am

Yep there it is. War between two nuclear armed nations.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:25 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Yep there it is. War between two nuclear armed nations.

Thanks 2020.

Don’t worry NK is going to invade the south this year too.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Yep there it is. War between two nuclear armed nations.

Thanks 2020.

Don’t worry NK is going to invade the south this year too.

I hope you like Koreans


Told yall. This horrifying year ends in mushroom clouds.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:26 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Yep there it is. War between two nuclear armed nations.

Thanks 2020.


It's a limited war. It'll be fought to control the contested territory and won't see mobilization of the nations or their nuclear arsenal.

Hopefully.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:26 am

I literally predicted something like this yesterday
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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:29 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Yep there it is. War between two nuclear armed nations.

Thanks 2020.


It's a limited war. It'll be fought to control the contested territory and won't see mobilization of the nations or their nuclear arsenal.

Hopefully.

There is no reason to mobilize reserves or return the draft, but we will definitely see a border fight. For now. They killed three soldiers, and protests against China are already erupting where I am, in Mumbai, which recently reopened
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Postby The Hindustani State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:34 am

Apparently senior military officers from the Indian Army and the PLA are meeting
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Two nuclear powers fighting with fists and feet. Odd!
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:42 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Two nuclear powers fighting with fists and feet. Odd!

Not different than the last few wars between India and Pakistan
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Postby San Kalungsod Saludong » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:49 am

Oh God no. China is escalating the situation big time. :mad:
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San Kalungsod Saludong wrote:Oh God no. China is escalating the situation big time. :mad:


Or a few of their soldiers went berserk and they're not owning up to it.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:50 am

So... what should be done, war or nah?

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Dresderstan wrote:So... what should be done, war or nah?

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Thermodolia wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Two nuclear powers fighting with fists and feet. Odd!

Not different than the last few wars between India and Pakistan

People don’t want mutual destruction, FYI
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Kargintina the Third wrote:2020 promised us war looks like we’re finally getting it boys. I’m ready for the draft

I don’t see why someone in the West has to be drafted for a border conflict between India and China
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Aureumterra wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:2020 promised us war looks like we’re finally getting it boys. I’m ready for the draft

I don’t see why someone in the West has to be drafted for a border conflict between India and China

Well this is the current year where every way is automatically overblown into world war 3 by the internet
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:00 am

The Hindustani State wrote:The world needs to take action against China

Sorry, I-Got-My-Own-Nukes-Nations don't get to whine for help when rival powers shoot some of their soldiers. You wanted to play in the big boys' league, now you sort your shit on your own.
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Dresderstan wrote:So... what should be done

Obviously, selling weapons and supplies to both sides. That's how you recover from a crisis: EXPORT!
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:02 am

Risottia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:So... what should be done

Obviously, selling weapons and supplies to both sides. That's how you recover from a crisis: EXPORT!

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:03 am

Wait, they were "beaten to death" according to the least reliable source on earth a local newspaper?

How do we know it was the Chinese? It might have been a Yeti!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:05 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Wait, they were "beaten to death" according to the least reliable source on earth a local newspaper?

How do we know it was the Chinese? It might have been a Yeti!


They can tell because everybody was kung fu fighting and yetis aren't fast as lightning.

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