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Who will win the Champions League?

Man City
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14%
Real Madrid
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Inter
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Milan
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Postby The Champions League » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:42 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Champions League wrote:In reality, Olympic football matters little to the point as much hype the team has, that doesn't mean they'll do good. The last four World Champions didn't win anything prior their WC wins in the Olympic scene and did great. On the other side, seems that those that win gold don't do well. Spain wasn't really that good in the years after 1992, Nigeria and Cameroon weren't world beaters, Argentina fell short, Mexico crashed like always, and Brazil is just being Brazil diving 24/7.

Typical football powerhouses don't usually perform well. International football on a senior level is way different, but international football at a U23 level is even more random, even more so considering teams usually cannot field a full strength U23 squad.

If FIFA mandated that all teams should have their best U23 players, things would be way, way different. Since FIFA themselves don't take the Olympics seriously, the clubs aren't obligated to release their players for the tournament.

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Postby Forsher » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:19 pm

Yes, but this is the important thing:

Tokyo Olympics 2020: New Zealand football Oly Whites beat South Korea for first win in Olympic history

11-a-side shouldn't be an Olympic sport. Soccer 7s or five a side or futsal should be.
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Postby The Champions League » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:27 pm

Forsher wrote:Yes, but this is the important thing:

Tokyo Olympics 2020: New Zealand football Oly Whites beat South Korea for first win in Olympic history

11-a-side shouldn't be an Olympic sport. Soccer 7s or five a side or futsal should be.

The Youth Olympics made the switch to futsal, so I can actually see the Senior (if you can call them senior) Olympics also switching to futsal sooner or later

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Postby Bombadil » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:42 pm

The Champions League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Typical football powerhouses don't usually perform well. International football on a senior level is way different, but international football at a U23 level is even more random, even more so considering teams usually cannot field a full strength U23 squad.

If FIFA mandated that all teams should have their best U23 players, things would be way, way different. Since FIFA themselves don't take the Olympics seriously, the clubs aren't obligated to release their players for the tournament.


Do FIFA have a say, or is it the IOC, who are goddamn fascists in getting what they want.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:43 pm

Bombadil wrote:
The Champions League wrote:If FIFA mandated that all teams should have their best U23 players, things would be way, way different. Since FIFA themselves don't take the Olympics seriously, the clubs aren't obligated to release their players for the tournament.


Do FIFA have a say, or is it the IOC, who are goddamn fascists in getting what they want.

It's not a FIFA-sanctioned tournament, so clubs have the final say and can block players from participating due to fixture congestion, rest reasons.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby The Champions League » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:45 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Do FIFA have a say, or is it the IOC, who are goddamn fascists in getting what they want.

It's not a FIFA-sanctioned tournament, so clubs have the final say and can block players from participating due to fixture congestion, rest reasons.

FIFA just makes the basic regulations such as age and squad limits, but none of the "you must call the best of the best" regulations such like in pretty much every other major competition

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:53 pm

The Champions League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:It's not a FIFA-sanctioned tournament, so clubs have the final say and can block players from participating due to fixture congestion, rest reasons.

FIFA just makes the basic regulations such as age and squad limits, but none of the "you must call the best of the best" regulations such like in pretty much every other major competition

The only people that seem to care are the federations who make up lies that "superstar wants to play in the Olympics and that the Olympics are much bigger than the World Cup" just to misuse them and get them hurt for three months.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby The Champions League » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:06 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Champions League wrote:FIFA just makes the basic regulations such as age and squad limits, but none of the "you must call the best of the best" regulations such like in pretty much every other major competition

The only people that seem to care are the federations who make up lies that "superstar wants to play in the Olympics and that the Olympics are much bigger than the World Cup" just to misuse them and get them hurt for three months.

I've seen that the Olympics are like the FIFA Club World Cup. European sides couldn't give two craps for the most part, everyone else seems to care.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:11 pm

The Champions League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:The only people that seem to care are the federations who make up lies that "superstar wants to play in the Olympics and that the Olympics are much bigger than the World Cup" just to misuse them and get them hurt for three months.

I've seen that the Olympics are like the FIFA Club World Cup. European sides couldn't give two craps for the most part, everyone else seems to care.

Even if Egypt had Salah, they still wouldn't score any goals against Spain because the entire squad is filled with nobody we know of. Gotta love the Egyptian delegation and their lies about Salah wanting to go (he doesn't) and that he would win gold (he won't).
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:53 pm

Bombadil wrote:
The Champions League wrote:If FIFA mandated that all teams should have their best U23 players, things would be way, way different. Since FIFA themselves don't take the Olympics seriously, the clubs aren't obligated to release their players for the tournament.


Do FIFA have a say, or is it the IOC, who are goddamn fascists in getting what they want.


FIFA isn't?

Note: I agree about the IOC
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:00 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Do FIFA have a say, or is it the IOC, who are goddamn fascists in getting what they want.


FIFA isn't?

Note: I agree about the IOC

IOC are French Swiss fascists (Lausanne), whereas FIFA are German Swiss fascists (Zurich).

World of difference :p
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:43 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
FIFA isn't?

Note: I agree about the IOC

IOC are French Swiss fascists (Lausanne), whereas FIFA are German Swiss fascists (Zurich).

World of difference :p

We could say UEFA are Slovenian mafia fascists (led by Ceferin) or CONMEBOL is still controlled by the puppet strings of corrupt Brazilians like Joao Havelange.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:08 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
FIFA isn't?

Note: I agree about the IOC

IOC are French Swiss fascists (Lausanne), whereas FIFA are German Swiss fascists (Zurich).

World of difference :p


So FIFA is better organized in their corruption but the food is better at the IOC sitdowns?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:23 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:IOC are French Swiss fascists (Lausanne), whereas FIFA are German Swiss fascists (Zurich).

World of difference :p


So FIFA is better organized in their corruption but the food is better at the IOC sitdowns?

You should see FIFA’s board meeting room…
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Postby The Champions League » Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:24 am

Ahh, there's no better thing than seeing some fans hail their national team as potential world champions after winning a rather meaningless Olympic game

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:00 pm

The Champions League wrote:Ahh, there's no better thing than seeing some fans hail their national team as potential world champions after winning a rather meaningless Olympic game

Lol and the delegations that think selecting a superstar (cough cough Egypt) will guarantee them a gold medal. Salah cannot do anything with a bunch of random U23s and be essentially a piece of wood himself in that lineup.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby The Champions League » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:14 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Champions League wrote:Ahh, there's no better thing than seeing some fans hail their national team as potential world champions after winning a rather meaningless Olympic game

Lol and the delegations that think selecting a superstar (cough cough Egypt) will guarantee them a gold medal. Salah cannot do anything with a bunch of random U23s and be essentially a piece of wood himself in that lineup.

Some plastics will say: but Egypt drew against Spain! With Salah, they would've won!
Lol and what if they do? They won't do anything notable in the senior squad where it truly matters. Even Egypt as a whole has decreased in quality. No more of that side that won three straight AFCONs, now it's just give it to Salah and pray something good happens.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:16 pm

The Champions League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Lol and the delegations that think selecting a superstar (cough cough Egypt) will guarantee them a gold medal. Salah cannot do anything with a bunch of random U23s and be essentially a piece of wood himself in that lineup.

Some plastics will say: but Egypt drew against Spain! With Salah, they would've won!
Lol and what if they do? They won't do anything notable in the senior squad where it truly matters. Even Egypt as a whole has decreased in quality. No more of that side that won three straight AFCONs, now it's just give it to Salah and pray something good happens.

The Egypt chief's grandstanding, lies, and gaslighting really doesn't help them at all. Imagine having to make up lies as an excuse to call a superstar to a U23 tournament.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:41 am

Can we remove the poll?
I think Bonucci saying ‘it’s coming to rome’ has haunted my nightmares enough in the past two weeks.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:38 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:Can we remove the poll?
I think Bonucci saying ‘it’s coming to rome’ has haunted my nightmares enough in the past two weeks.

Oh man Bonucci really is a savage with his Rome comments. If I remove the poll, I have to switch it with another, but it's still only the preseason.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby The Champions League » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:50 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Can we remove the poll?
I think Bonucci saying ‘it’s coming to rome’ has haunted my nightmares enough in the past two weeks.

Oh man Bonucci really is a savage with his Rome comments. If I remove the poll, I have to switch it with another, but it's still only the preseason.

Idea for poll: Football at the Olympics
Are they relevant?
Yes, of course
Yes, but only to a certain group of nations
No, they're only an underage tournament
No, who even cares about them?

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Postby Crysuko » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:51 am

disappointed that the friendly vs Rangers was cancelled. Damned virus.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:52 am

The Champions League wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Oh man Bonucci really is a savage with his Rome comments. If I remove the poll, I have to switch it with another, but it's still only the preseason.

Idea for poll: Football at the Olympics
Are they relevant?
Yes, of course
Yes, but only to a certain group of nations
No, they're only an underage tournament
No, who even cares about them?

Lol football and Olympics relevancy. Most of the time, it's teams that have 11 pieces of wood or one senior piece of wood and ten U23 ones. And then there's France with choosing two players who have zero ambition by swapping actual football with Liga MX and a huge paycheck.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:44 am

Can’t beat ‘em in in Stoke I guess. Ah well. It’s a friendly.

Anyway, does anyone here actually think that we’re heading into a golden-generation again? I think we are. Every generation recently has had their guns, and from Mbappé to Pedri, we have lots of youngsters these days that could be the next Thierry Henry or the next Xavi (except in Brazil, as far as I’ve seen) and they’re setting records and just look like they could be special.

I feel like the Euros have been like a somewhat passing of the torch.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:33 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:Can’t beat ‘em in in Stoke I guess. Ah well. It’s a friendly.

Anyway, does anyone here actually think that we’re heading into a golden-generation again? I think we are. Every generation recently has had their guns, and from Mbappé to Pedri, we have lots of youngsters these days that could be the next Thierry Henry or the next Xavi (except in Brazil, as far as I’ve seen) and they’re setting records and just look like they could be special.

I feel like the Euros have been like a somewhat passing of the torch.

I'm interested to see how the world cup turns out. can't find anyone who cares about olympic football.
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