2023-24 Football Season: Managerial Exodus

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

ole is manager of the year.

wilder made fans of 1 club happy, ole made fans of 19 clubs happy

Ole has made me happy so far. I like the direction his signings seem to be going in.

I agree, Europa League calibre, exactly what Utd needs for now and foreseeable future.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

oh I didnt mean that the PL is obliged to by some kind of law, just that if they dont punish City in some way they are basically disagreeing that they did anything wrong, which puts them in direct contradiction to EUFA.

[Bolgano]

Norwich was never in the game. Of course Martin Tyler wanted them to get a point because he hates Liverpool but they walked away with 0 and quite deservedly.

Unfortunately I kind of like Norwich and Daniel Farke and it will be a shame to see them relegated. But I'm sure they'll be back - eventually

Norwich has Teemu Pukki, who is the most well-known Finnish player since Finland doesn't do well in football.

Thanks to Finland, this year Eurocup will play, they also got good results in their group, we can give comparison to the Iceland of 2016 and 2018, and thanks to Teemu Pukki.

[Fartsniffage]

Ole has made me happy so far. I like the direction his signings seem to be going in.

I agree, Europa League calibre, exactly what Utd needs for now and foreseeable future.

Of course. We haven't been in the CL for a few years so those are the players we're going to attract. But we're buying younger players with the potential to improve into CL players. I like that.

[Bolgano]

oh I didnt mean that the PL is obliged to by some kind of law, just that if they dont punish City in some way they are basically disagreeing that they did anything wrong, which puts them in direct contradiction to EUFA.

England has had many problems with their clubs at UEFA level, that time with Liverpool in the famous Heilsey Disaster in Belgium that forced all England clubs to be out of European competitions for 5 years and for Liverpool 10, then under the Sentence to 6 years, something that I still think they did not have to suspend all of England, the only culprits was Liverpool, if they get to blame EFL in total for this happening with Manchester City, it would be a serious mistake of UEFA

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

I agree, Europa League calibre, exactly what Utd needs for now and foreseeable future.

Of course. We haven't been in the CL for a few years so those are the players we're going to attract. But we're buying younger players with the potential to improve into CL players. I like that.

Hmm

AWB: he has high ceiling, I agree.

Daniel James: fall-over merchant, looks like a lad on a night out has been told he can't enter a club by a bouncer, but also a high ceiling.

Maguire: No. His level is settled. Buying him was a mistake imo.

Fernandes: £67m?

but really, AWB and James have high ceiling, and Fernandes already good player, he can improve, but the main problem: who is going to improve them? Ole? Ole Gunnar Solksjaer is going to turn these guys into the best footballers they can be? Really?

If you had sense you would cancel Woodward, you can put Ole in his place, and appoint someone - anyone. But problem starts with Woodward surely, and lacking a good DOF, and not really Ole's fault.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

oh I didnt mean that the PL is obliged to by some kind of law, just that if they dont punish City in some way they are basically disagreeing that they did anything wrong, which puts them in direct contradiction to EUFA.

England has had many problems with their clubs at UEFA level, that time with Liverpool in the famous Heilsey Disaster in Belgium that forced all England clubs to be out of European competitions for 5 years and for Liverpool 10, then under the Sentence to 6 years, something that I still think they did not have to suspend all of England, the only culprits was Liverpool, if they get to blame EFL in total for this happening with Manchester City, it would be a serious mistake of UEFA

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

[Fartsniffage]

Of course. We haven't been in the CL for a few years so those are the players we're going to attract. But we're buying younger players with the potential to improve into CL players. I like that.

Hmm

AWB: he has high ceiling, I agree.

Daniel James: fall-over merchant, looks like a lad on a night out has been told he can't enter a club by a bouncer, but also a high ceiling.

Maguire: No. His level is settled. Buying him was a mistake imo.

Fernandes: £67m?

but really, AWB and James have high ceiling, and Fernandes already good player, he can improve, but the main problem: who is going to improve them? Ole? Ole Gunnar Solksjaer is going to turn these guys into the best footballers they can be? Really?

If you had sense you would cancel Woodward, you can put Ole in his place, and appoint someone - anyone. But problem starts with Woodward surely, and lacking a good DOF, and not really Ole's fault.

Mike Phelan will be doing the development. His pretty good at it.

And Woodward needs to fuck off and die. He'll be binned soon and then we can buy like we used to. Early in the window and everyone we want quickly. The last 2 windows we've been slow. Gotta splash the cash a bit and we can afford it.

[Bolgano]

England has had many problems with their clubs at UEFA level, that time with Liverpool in the famous Heilsey Disaster in Belgium that forced all England clubs to be out of European competitions for 5 years and for Liverpool 10, then under the Sentence to 6 years, something that I still think they did not have to suspend all of England, the only culprits was Liverpool, if they get to blame EFL in total for this happening with Manchester City, it would be a serious mistake of UEFA

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

I did not mean that, obviously that stadium is not at the level of the current ones, as today they will be able to demolish a wall in a football stadium, I am only giving a record of any expulsion to English football in UEFA

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Hmm

AWB: he has high ceiling, I agree.

Daniel James: fall-over merchant, looks like a lad on a night out has been told he can't enter a club by a bouncer, but also a high ceiling.

Maguire: No. His level is settled. Buying him was a mistake imo.

Fernandes: £67m?

but really, AWB and James have high ceiling, and Fernandes already good player, he can improve, but the main problem: who is going to improve them? Ole? Ole Gunnar Solksjaer is going to turn these guys into the best footballers they can be? Really?

If you had sense you would cancel Woodward, you can put Ole in his place, and appoint someone - anyone. But problem starts with Woodward surely, and lacking a good DOF, and not really Ole's fault.

Mike Phelan will be doing the development. His pretty good at it.

And Woodward needs to fuck off and die. He'll be binned soon and then we can buy like we used to. Early in the window and everyone we want quickly. The last 2 windows we've been slow. Gotta splash the cash a bit and we can afford it.

to be serious for a moment:

I think it's not about money, since if you really want to buy a player, you will get him. See Fernandes. We would have told Lisbon to fuck off, and maybe we would have got him later, and maybe not, but we would not have paid £67m. Man U has the financial resources to overspend which is partially why they do overspend. The spending's not the problem. Everything behind the scenes has to be modernised, they have to have a proper director of football who is in charge of the club's strategy and their planning has to be supported by data science, because at the moment Man U is nowhere near the top with its data science department. And then you need proper coaches, not just a proper head coach but things like medical teams - like so you don't repeat the insane thing that happened to Rashford.

To me, Lukaku is the ultimate recent-times Man U story. He does well in Everton but only because everyone is constantly giving him the ball, and he's their only real goalscoring threat, so you buy him without reference to any metrics, which show he's not a great player, just a good one. He doesn't perform as well for Utd as everyone thinks then he goes and bulks up and gets fat for the NT and can't bulk down, and nobody knows how to deal with it, there's no plan or strategy or objective, Mourinho just shrugs his shoulders and says whatever, play I guess. Then Ole sells him for a loss because he can't work him into his plans (what plans?) Money wasted, no plan in place, potential never fulfilled.

When all these things sorted out, Man U can return to the top of England, maybe even Europe, in really quick time, but until those issues are sorted and the club has a cohesive strategy, supported at all lvls, then it won't go anywhere. It will linger in Europa League or below, maybe winning the occasional Dontcareabout Cup.

Ultimately, I'd rather have Utd around than City. The rivalry with Utd feels real. There just isn't a rivalry with City. It's boring.

[Fartsniffage]

Mike Phelan will be doing the development. His pretty good at it.

And Woodward needs to fuck off and die. He'll be binned soon and then we can buy like we used to. Early in the window and everyone we want quickly. The last 2 windows we've been slow. Gotta splash the cash a bit and we can afford it.

to be serious for a moment:

I think it's not about money, since if you really want to buy a player, you will get him. See Fernandes. We would have told Lisbon to fuck off, and maybe we would have got him later, and maybe not, but we would not have paid £67m. Man U has the financial resources to overspend which is partially why they do overspend. The spending's not the problem. Everything behind the scenes has to be modernised, they have to have a proper director of football who is in charge of the club's strategy and their planning has to be supported by data science, because at the moment Man U is nowhere near the top with its data science department. And then you need proper coaches, not just a proper head coach but things like medical teams - like so you don't repeat the insane thing that happened to Rashford.

To me, Lukaku is the ultimate recent-times Man U story. He does well in Everton but only because everyone is constantly giving him the ball, and he's their only real goalscoring threat, so you buy him without reference to any metrics, which show he's not a great player, just a good one. He doesn't perform as well for Utd as everyone thinks then he goes and bulks up and gets fat for the NT and can't bulk down, and nobody knows how to deal with it, there's no plan or strategy or objective, Mourinho just shrugs his shoulders and says whatever, play I guess. Then Ole sells him for a loss because he can't work him into his plans (what plans?) Money wasted, no plan in place, potential never fulfilled.

When all these things sorted out, Man U can return to the top of England, maybe even Europe, in really quick time, but until those issues are sorted and the club has a cohesive strategy, supported at all lvls, then it won't go anywhere. It will linger in Europa League or below, maybe winning the occasional Dontcareabout Cup.

Ultimately, I'd rather have Utd around than City. The rivalry with Utd feels real. There just isn't a rivalry with City. It's boring.

Source on us being behind on data science and medical? Not that I don't believe you, just want to know more about it.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

I dont have any sources on data science, but I have read some articles about data science in and data analysis on football and none of them mention Man Utd which I infer as being Man Utd isn't worth mentioning in area of football data metrics, which would be unusual, so that's what I mean. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it.

I think the actual medical resources are fine, its just the mindset. Playing your main striker when he has a back fracture and an ankle problem

[Outer Sparta]

I dont have any sources on data science, but I have read some articles about data science in and data analysis on football and none of them mention Man Utd which I infer as being Man Utd isn't worth mentioning in area of football data metrics, which would be unusual, so that's what I mean. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it.

I think the actual medical resources are fine, its just the mindset. Playing your main striker when he has a back fracture and an ankle problem

Man United is the definition of inconsistency.

[Fartsniffage]

I dont have any sources on data science, but I have read some articles about data science in and data analysis on football and none of them mention Man Utd which I infer as being Man Utd isn't worth mentioning in area of football data metrics, which would be unusual, so that's what I mean. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it.

I think the actual medical resources are fine, its just the mindset. Playing your main striker when he has a back fracture and an ankle problem

Us being behind on data metrics does seem odd to me. We're owned by a family that also owns an American Football team and that's all about stats and data. But I could be totally wrong of course.

Rashford didn't have a fractured spine going into the match, it was fractured in the collision. But he was tired and should have been rested. But what to do when he's the only person scoring goals and you've sold your other number 9? Getting rid of Lukaku was a mistake unless we already had a replacement, and that come back to doing business late in the window. Woodward is a cock.

[Outer Sparta]

Of course. We haven't been in the CL for a few years so those are the players we're going to attract. But we're buying younger players with the potential to improve into CL players. I like that.

Hmm

AWB: he has high ceiling, I agree.

Daniel James: fall-over merchant, looks like a lad on a night out has been told he can't enter a club by a bouncer, but also a high ceiling.

Maguire: No. His level is settled. Buying him was a mistake imo.

Fernandes: £67m?

but really, AWB and James have high ceiling, and Fernandes already good player, he can improve, but the main problem: who is going to improve them? Ole? Ole Gunnar Solksjaer is going to turn these guys into the best footballers they can be? Really?

If you had sense you would cancel Woodward, you can put Ole in his place, and appoint someone - anyone. But problem starts with Woodward surely, and lacking a good DOF, and not really Ole's fault.

The real question is: how can United still keep on starting Pereira and Lingard and expect better results?

[Fartsniffage]

Hmm

AWB: he has high ceiling, I agree.

Daniel James: fall-over merchant, looks like a lad on a night out has been told he can't enter a club by a bouncer, but also a high ceiling.

Maguire: No. His level is settled. Buying him was a mistake imo.

Fernandes: £67m?

but really, AWB and James have high ceiling, and Fernandes already good player, he can improve, but the main problem: who is going to improve them? Ole? Ole Gunnar Solksjaer is going to turn these guys into the best footballers they can be? Really?

If you had sense you would cancel Woodward, you can put Ole in his place, and appoint someone - anyone. But problem starts with Woodward surely, and lacking a good DOF, and not really Ole's fault.

The real question is: how can United still keep on starting Pereira and Lingard and expect better results?

I think it's just the belief that it has to get better at some point....

[Outer Sparta]

The real question is: how can United still keep on starting Pereira and Lingard and expect better results?

I think it's just the belief that it has to get better at some point....

"Hmm Jesse Lingard hasn't scored anything and has less assists than Alisson... let's trot him out again! After all, 30th time's the charm!" - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (probably)

[Fartsniffage]

I think it's just the belief that it has to get better at some point....

"Hmm Jesse Lingard hasn't scored anything and has less assists than Alisson... let's trot him out again! After all, 30th time's the charm!" - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (probably)

Jesse went through some unpleasant personal stuff last autumn. It's not a huge shock it affected his work. But he needs to have gotten over it by now.

[Eastfield Lodge]

England has had many problems with their clubs at UEFA level, that time with Liverpool in the famous Heilsey Disaster in Belgium that forced all England clubs to be out of European competitions for 5 years and for Liverpool 10, then under the Sentence to 6 years, something that I still think they did not have to suspend all of England, the only culprits was Liverpool, if they get to blame EFL in total for this happening with Manchester City, it would be a serious mistake of UEFA

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

Can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen, y'know?

[Fartsniffage]

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

Can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen, y'know?

I've read this a few times and I can't see it as other than supporting racism at football games. Is that what you intended?

[Outer Sparta]

England has had many problems with their clubs at UEFA level, that time with Liverpool in the famous Heilsey Disaster in Belgium that forced all England clubs to be out of European competitions for 5 years and for Liverpool 10, then under the Sentence to 6 years, something that I still think they did not have to suspend all of England, the only culprits was Liverpool, if they get to blame EFL in total for this happening with Manchester City, it would be a serious mistake of UEFA

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

That's why I loathe Serie A. The corruption (Juventus being relegated for match fixing) and the sheer amount of racism keep me away from rooting for any team there.

[Bolgano]

at least our stands don't have walls of morons belting monkey noises at players yeah?

That's why I loathe Serie A. The corruption (Juventus being relegated for match fixing) and the sheer amount of racism keep me away from rooting for any team there.

Recently Romelu Lukaku in one of his first games with Inter, suffered Racism for the fans of Lecce (I think that is that team) and also Koulibaly when he scored that silly goal against Juventus at the last minute, after Napoli got to turn a match from 0-3 to 3-3, you can imagine the insults he received, otherwise I don't remember another case this season outside of Italy.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen, y'know?

I've read this a few times and I can't see it as other than supporting racism at football games. Is that what you intended?

'Twas sarcasm, mate.

Although on a more serious note, why is racist/homophobic chanting not allowed and other forms of abusive chanting allowed, for example, mocking Hillsborough against Liverpool or Munich against Man U? Or attacking individual players for aspects about their private life? Seems a bit of a double standard to be honest.

[Imperial Joseon]

That's why I loathe Serie A. The corruption (Juventus being relegated for match fixing) and the sheer amount of racism keep me away from rooting for any team there.

Juventus was invited to a Korea for a match against the K-League All-Stars, and Ronaldo promised to play at least 45 minutes, but he never played. Sat on the bench all game, and he never apologized.

[Nouveau Quebecois]

Friendly reminder VAR is still garbage