The NationStates Feminism Thread IV: Fight Like A Girl!

[New haven america]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

I think you post the same thing every 2 weeks like clockwork, and it never gets any more interesting or insightful, but I'm not allowed to do anything about it, so we must continue suffering onwards.

[The Blaatschapen]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

I think you post the same thing every 2 weeks like clockwork, and it never gets any more interesting or insightful, but I'm not allowed to do anything about it, so we must continue suffering onwards.

Could this harm that we suffer from be considered a sin committed by those that inflict it upon us?

[Suriyanakhon]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

I think you post the same thing every 2 weeks like clockwork, and it never gets any more interesting or insightful, but I'm not allowed to do anything about it, so we must continue suffering onwards.

As long as it's not more essence posting.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

I dont think sin exists. My morals are driven by whether my actions will harm innocent people or not, and not by what a God who never existed has to say about stuff. Thats why I'm not out here shooting people but I also am pro LGBT, cause I don't lose sleep at night knowing that there's a man somewhere giving another man a hicky. That's cool. It's whatever to me. Shit my own brother is bisexual and i don't see anything wrong with it. My issue isn't that he did stuff with a man, but rather that the man he did the stuff with is a weirdo and an ugly bastard. If he was better looking, then I would understand.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Also, To be honest with you Sundiata, you put women on a pedestal that equalizes them in the worst way. You elevate women who don't deserve to be elevated and bring down women who deserve to soar. True feminism involves seeing the individuality in women and neither patronizing them like children nor taking the view of "if she breaths she's a thot." Not all women are sluts, and not all women are queens because all women are individuals and are different and you're gonna get the good and the bad with them. My ex girlfriend is not a queen, and my closest female friend isn't a degenerate piece of crap. We need to treat women like how we would treat men, and that involves responding to anyone you meet based on who they are as a person and not their gender.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

In much the same way that injured soldiers probably want and need medical treatment more than they need a medal, those desiring lifestyles not entirely in the bounds of conservative morality could do a lot better than have superstitious people administer religious nonsense to them.

It is a rare situation indeed that can be improved by bringing more religion into it. I find the reverse to be more often the case, actually.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

[Suriyanakhon]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

I dont think sin exists. My morals are driven by whether my actions will harm innocent people or not, and not by what a God who never existed has to say about stuff. Thats why I'm not out here shooting people but I also am pro LGBT, cause I don't lose sleep at night knowing that there's a man somewhere giving another man a hicky. That's cool. It's whatever to me. Shit my own brother is bisexual and i don't see anything wrong with it. My issue isn't that he did stuff with a man, but rather that the man he did the stuff with is a weirdo and an ugly bastard. If he was better looking, then I would understand.

I mean, the weirdo part is a valid complaint, but looks ain't everything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

It doesn't make you virile, it makes you a borderline pedophile.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I dont think sin exists. My morals are driven by whether my actions will harm innocent people or not, and not by what a God who never existed has to say about stuff. Thats why I'm not out here shooting people but I also am pro LGBT, cause I don't lose sleep at night knowing that there's a man somewhere giving another man a hicky. That's cool. It's whatever to me. Shit my own brother is bisexual and i don't see anything wrong with it. My issue isn't that he did stuff with a man, but rather that the man he did the stuff with is a weirdo and an ugly bastard. If he was better looking, then I would understand.

I mean, the weirdo part is a valid complaint, but looks ain't everything. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

It doesn't make you virile, it makes you a borderline pedophile.

It does. It's like you're standing outside a girl's window and the moment the clock strikes 12 am on her 18th birthday, you're like "YEAH NOW I WONT GO TO JAIL FOR DICKING HER!" You shouldn't feel this type of strong attraction to someone that much younger than you. Like when I was 19 I was attracted to girls who were 16 but as a man in his early 20s now, I don't feel that anymore because I've gotten older. It goes beyond looks. A 16 year old and me are in totally different stages of our lives, just like a 50 year old and an 18 year old. Like what the hell are you as a 50 year old man gonna talk with an 18 year old about at Olive Garden, college? We know damn well you never even saw that place let alone attended if you're such a loser and disgrace you're hitting on 18 year olds as a middle aged man. I could understand maybe a 50 year old dating a 30 year old but honestly I think anyone under 25 is too young for a man that old. And 18-19 is just straight up creepy. I'm sure as I get older the youngest age I feel anything for is gonna move up, unlike this self described alpha male (codeword among the Redpill types for total embarrassment of a human being).

And what the hell is this women at age 30 are past their prime bullshit? Dog, everyone is past their prime at age 30. If you're 50, you are like a good 20 to 25 years past your peak physical state. You need to humble yourself. It's totally dehumanizing language that unfortunately was used by the last "president" of the United States, and it's gotta stop because honestly, physical health isn't even everything either. People don't just cease to exist after 27 or lose all worth unless of course you're a misogynist who only wants women in their peak cause "that's when they're most fertile" as said creep stated. God, the backlash to third wave "feminism" has been as toxic and cringe as third wave feminism its self. Why?

[Galloism]

God, the backlash to third wave "feminism" has been as toxic and cringe as third wave feminism its self. Why?

Pretty much.

[Sundiata]

It is not a disgrace to be wounded by sin but we've got to get up and keep marching. When a soldier gets wounded in battle they get medals. When we get wounded by sin we've got the sacraments. I'm not the first to draw that comparison but it's interesting.

What do you all think?

Is this related to feminism or MRAs at all?

Wrong thread, sorry.

[Stellar Colonies]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

I first delved into and found out about that sort of thing when I was trying to figure out what they meant by "The Wall"...pretty disturbing mindset in general. Then there were those egg carton memes some time ago, yeesh.

One of the few things which genuinely pisses me off is the idea of aged adults going after borderline teenagers, ranging from people like you mentioned to teachers preying upon the boys and girls they are supposed to be educating.

[Proctopeo]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

>unironically using the term "manosphere"
I shiggy diggy.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

I first delved into and found out about that sort of thing when I was trying to figure out what they meant by "The Wall"...pretty disturbing mindset in general. Then there were those egg carton memes some time ago, yeesh.

One of the few things which genuinely pisses me off is the idea of aged adults going after borderline teenagers, ranging from people like you mentioned to teachers preying upon the boys and girls they are supposed to be educating.

It's dehumanizing as hell and shows a lack of respect for females. Like damn bro, would it really hurt you to stick with a woman your age?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

>unironically using the term "manosphere"
I shiggy diggy.

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

[Stellar Colonies]

I first delved into and found out about that sort of thing when I was trying to figure out what they meant by "The Wall"...pretty disturbing mindset in general. Then there were those egg carton memes some time ago, yeesh.

One of the few things which genuinely pisses me off is the idea of aged adults going after borderline teenagers, ranging from people like you mentioned to teachers preying upon the boys and girls they are supposed to be educating.

It's dehumanizing as hell and shows a lack of respect for females. Like damn bro, would it really hurt you to stick with a woman your age?

Yeah.

>unironically using the term "manosphere"
I shiggy diggy.

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

Some of what is lumped into the term 'manosphere' is fairly benign (moderate MRAs for instance), but there is some truly disturbed stuff tangled up in there.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It's dehumanizing as hell and shows a lack of respect for females. Like damn bro, would it really hurt you to stick with a woman your age?

Yeah.

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

Some of what is lumped into the term 'manosphere' is fairly benign (moderate MRAs for instance), but there is some truly disturbed stuff tangled up in there.

Men's rights isn't what I'm talking about when I use the term manosphere. Men's rights matter, but then you get weirdos like Roosh V who think "no doesn't actually mean no." Yes it does Roosh, it most definitely means no and when you think it actually means yes, that instance is referred to as "felony rape charge."

[The Black Forrest]

Jesus christ does the manosphere just keep getting worse? I just watched a video of some loser talking about "don't date women over 30, they past their prime. Date 18 year olds instead."

You are 50 years old. If you're trying to go for 18 year olds, it's sus as hell and sets off alarm bells in people's heads.

Was he a slob? Some rather “interesting” looking people make such claims.

Personally? As long as it’s legal and there is no coercion; I don’t care who dates who.

[Proctopeo]

>unironically using the term "manosphere"
I shiggy diggy.

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

My issue is that, by its standard definition at least, deliberately and incorrectly lumps together several unrelated groups, that hate each other, because "they're about men".

What groups do you refer to by the term """"manosphere""""?

It's dehumanizing as hell and shows a lack of respect for females. Like damn bro, would it really hurt you to stick with a woman your age?

Yeah.

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

Some of what is lumped into the term 'manosphere' is fairly benign (moderate MRAs for instance), but there is some truly disturbed stuff tangled up in there.

I have a suspicion that it was coined specifically to wrongfully associate the MRM with more wacky groups like MGTOW and PUAs.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Ima call it whatever I feel is fit to call it. If you like, I could refer to it as the ramparts of inceldom and rape instead.

My issue is that, by its standard definition at least, deliberately and incorrectly lumps together several unrelated groups, that hate each other, because "they're about men".

What groups do you refer to by the term """"manosphere""""?

Incels, MGTOWs and PUAs. The latter two are later stage evolutions of incels, with the former being incels learning the art of denial and the latter being them learning the skill of violent sexual assault.

[Stellar Colonies]

Yeah.


Some of what is lumped into the term 'manosphere' is fairly benign (moderate MRAs for instance), but there is some truly disturbed stuff tangled up in there.

Men's rights isn't what I'm talking about when I use the term manosphere. Men's rights matter, but then you get weirdos like Roosh V who think "no doesn't actually mean no." Yes it does Roosh, it most definitely means no and when you think it actually means yes, that instance is referred to as "felony rape charge."

Ah, okay. From what I've seen in general, most people tend to lump all of them together under that term.

[Stellar Colonies]

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I have a suspicion that it was coined specifically to wrongfully associate the MRM with more wacky groups like MGTOW and PUAs.

That is possible, I have noticed that some people conflate the former with the latter even when they are fairly different, although most of the people who do so are probably doing it unintentionally.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://youtu.be/-G6clzL6ENE

You ever hear about those creepy dudes girls deal with where they don't know how to approach them, try being nice and it just backfires on them? Yeah this is one of those guys. It seems like there's alot more of these incel types nowadays, and unfortunately a common denominator in all the cases is they have poor social skills. My man Skippy here isn't a shining Greek statue but he isn't the ugliest man out there. If he would just stop being so unbelievably uncomfortable and acted normal, I'm sure women wouldn't only go on one date at most with him. It's some sad shit.

[Proctopeo]

Yeah.


Some of what is lumped into the term 'manosphere' is fairly benign (moderate MRAs for instance), but there is some truly disturbed stuff tangled up in there.

Men's rights isn't what I'm talking about when I use the term manosphere. Men's rights matter, but then you get weirdos like Roosh V who think "no doesn't actually mean no." Yes it does Roosh, it most definitely means no and when you think it actually means yes, that instance is referred to as "felony rape charge."

My issue is that, by its standard definition at least, deliberately and incorrectly lumps together several unrelated groups, that hate each other, because "they're about men".

What groups do you refer to by the term """"manosphere""""?

Incels, MGTOWs and PUAs. The latter two are later stage evolutions of incels, with the former being incels learning the art of denial and the latter being them learning the skill of violent sexual assault.

That makes sense. The issue, though, is that most people who use that term are talking about the MRM as well, if it's not their main focus.

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I have a suspicion that it was coined specifically to wrongfully associate the MRM with more wacky groups like MGTOW and PUAs.

That is possible, I have noticed that some people conflate the former with the latter even when they are fairly different, although most of the people who do so are probably doing it unintentionally.

Most probably aren't doing it deliberately, but they learned it from people who have.

https://youtu.be/-G6clzL6ENE

You ever hear about those creepy dudes girls deal with where they don't know how to approach them, try being nice and it just backfires on them? Yeah this is one of those guys. It seems like there's alot more of these incel types nowadays, and unfortunately a common denominator in all the cases is they have poor social skills. My man Skippy here isn't a shining Greek statue but he isn't the ugliest man out there. If he would just stop being so unbelievably uncomfortable and acted normal, I'm sure women wouldn't only go on one date at most with him. It's some sad shit.

I'd say it's a quite complicated situation. There's no magic bullet for "curing" social awkwardness or "acting normal". Life isn't a Spongebob episode, for the most part, people can't just decide to "stop being weird". I also feel like social ostracization has only deepened their issues, creating a vicious cycle that that the victims can't break. For some reason I'm reminded of people like CWC or Terry Davis here.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I think helicopter parenting has had a major impact on the incel rates in America. People shield their kids so much, they never learn social skills or have real human interactions.