Des-Bal wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:No.
The article doesnt' say "You have to understand, women have been drinking koolaid for years and this is how they see you" it says "You have to understand, women experience x and this is how they see you".
This is not a distinction without a difference if the purpose of the article is to actually help men rather than validate womens pathological views to them.
You said no but then argued about why it was not okay rather than arguing it's not correct.
It's the difference between
"When interacting with bob, please remember that he thinks spoons can read peoples thoughts because he is a schizophrenic. Do not bring spoons into bobs room" and "When interacting with bob, try and understand and remember that he is traumatically victimized constantly by spoons because they read peoples thoughts. You need to understand and accept this as true.".
The former is acceptable. The latter, when it becomes a ubiquitious societal message, merely results in the transmission of elements of bobs mental illness to the rest of the population who aren't aware that's what is happening.
The latter is flat out not correct in addition to not being okay. You're not "Understanding bob" by accepting his mental unwellness and delusions as a factual thing based in his experiences. "Understanding" bob would be the former, not the latter.
And again, if the purpose of the article is to "Help" men, this is absolutely not the approach that should be taken. It is not teaching men to understand women. It is teaching men to internalize their pathologies. We've covered the results of this before with the posts on how many male feminists report what is essentially trauma from internalizing this view of men.
There's also the stats on how male feminists are the least attractive section of the population, even to female feminists, probably because of the damage they have done to themselves through this view of themselves and other men. So it's "Not correct" even in its assertion that this will help men date women.
Meanwhile, MRAs are in line with population norms, incels, red pillers, and MGTOWs are obviously below it, suggesting something quite notable about which gender framework actually works in this matter.
"Understanding" women helps with dating, that is almost tautologous. Acceptance is not the same thing as understanding.