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Postby Galloism » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:44 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:18 am

Galloism wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.

Yeah, it's all kinds of fucked.

Part of why I'm concerned about a financial motive behind promoting circumcision, since any industry making a profit off a product will, in order to grow profits, inevitably...desire more product.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:45 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Sounds good. Personally I support more recess and the like, as well as support fidget stuff available to students who need it.


You don't even need more recess necessarily. Some schools have had good results with taking the lunch hour, reducing it to 30 minutes, and then placing an extra two 15 minute breaks through the day.

They have an hour? I didn't.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:23 pm

So this line of discussion resulted in me going down a bit of a rabbit hole and realizing that the idea of public schools being modeled off of factories (shifts, bell schedules, etc.) is apparently not true.

Resulted in putting an end to a post I would've made, but interesting enough for me to make note of it.
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Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
If you want a mental image of me: straight(?) white male diagnosed with ASD.

I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

Might be slowly going red over time.
Stellar Colonies is a loose confederacy comprised from most of the human-settled parts of the galaxy.

Ida Station is the only Confederate member state permitted to join the WA.

Add 1200 years for the date I use.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:32 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

It's actually being harvested for face cream.

Also, cause one of The Kellogg's brothers was obsessed with little boys masturbating. (He's also the reason why vegetarian food in the West is so bland compared to places like India or Africa, because he believed that bland diets would act an anti-aphrodisiac. I'm sure he must've written papers about how vegetable curries are Satan's Dish)
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Postby Auzkhia » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:20 pm

New haven america wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

It's actually being harvested for face cream.

Also, cause one of The Kellogg's brothers was obsessed with little boys masturbating. (He's also the reason why vegetarian food in the West is so bland compared to places like India or Africa, because he believed that bland diets would act an anti-aphrodisiac. I'm sure he must've written papers about have vegetable curries are Satan's Dish)

Henry Ford was famous for his bland vegetarian diet.

So, American Midwestern Industrialists have a thing for that I guess.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:47 pm

Saiwania wrote:It is arguably better from my standpoint that they do without if that has to be the case.

Despite what radical feminists think, no, free-bleeding is not good for anyone.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:47 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Dreria » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:23 pm


A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens
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Postby New haven america » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:27 pm

Dreria wrote:

A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens

Bad take is bad.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:01 pm

Dreria wrote:

A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens

this is utterly incoherent
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:48 am

Dreria wrote:

A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens


Define Welfare Queen with evidence that it is a real phenomenon.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:34 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Galloism wrote:There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.

Yeah, it's all kinds of fucked.

Part of why I'm concerned about a financial motive behind promoting circumcision, since any industry making a profit off a product will, in order to grow profits, inevitably...desire more product.
New haven america wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

It's actually being harvested for face cream.

Also, cause one of The Kellogg's brothers was obsessed with little boys masturbating. (He's also the reason why vegetarian food in the West is so bland compared to places like India or Africa, because he believed that bland diets would act an anti-aphrodisiac. I'm sure he must've written papers about have vegetable curries are Satan's Dish)
Galloism wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.

... what
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Postby Esalia » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:41 am

Dreria wrote:

A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens


Ah yes, "promoting family values" by...

Cutting down how many weeks a family gets to be with their child.

Yes, this totally makes sense.
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Postby Dreria » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:11 am

Esalia wrote:
Dreria wrote:A sensible moderate policy. This will promote family values and discourage irresponsible welfare queens


Ah yes, "promoting family values" by...

Cutting down how many weeks a family gets to be with their child.

Yes, this totally makes sense.

It will give them motivation to get a better job
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Postby Neuer California » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:16 am

Dreria wrote:
Esalia wrote:
Ah yes, "promoting family values" by...

Cutting down how many weeks a family gets to be with their child.

Yes, this totally makes sense.

It will give them motivation to get a better job

Assuming there's a better job that they can get.

And assuming said "better" job isn't even more disruptive to their life and doesn't make taking care of their child harder (longer or less predictable hours, heavy travel requirements, etx.)

Big assumptions are required to buy into that line of thinking
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Postby Dreria » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:19 am

Galloism wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:While the issues faced by men are being discussed, there's also the foreskin harvesting making them normal and clean :DDD occurring in American hospitals.

There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.

Cool it with the anti semitism
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Postby Dreria » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:22 am

Neuer California wrote:
Dreria wrote:It will give them motivation to get a better job

Assuming there's a better job that they can get.

And assuming said "better" job isn't even more disruptive to their life and doesn't make taking care of their child harder (longer or less predictable hours, heavy travel requirements, etx.)

Big assumptions are required to buy into that line of thinking

Good thing we have a decentralized free market system to take care of that instead of communism (which a lot of people here seem to want)
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Postby Neuer California » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:24 am

Dreria wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Assuming there's a better job that they can get.

And assuming said "better" job isn't even more disruptive to their life and doesn't make taking care of their child harder (longer or less predictable hours, heavy travel requirements, etx.)

Big assumptions are required to buy into that line of thinking

Good thing we have a decentralized free market system to take care of that instead of communism (which a lot of people here seem to want)

A decentralized free market system that leaves out those options for a LOT of people
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Suriyanakhon wrote:
Does this mean wlw is most holy in God's eyes?

It turns out that lesbians are God's chosen people.

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Dreria
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Postby Dreria » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:26 am

Neuer California wrote:
Dreria wrote:Good thing we have a decentralized free market system to take care of that instead of communism (which a lot of people here seem to want)

A decentralized free market system that leaves out those options for a LOT of people

that’s because of the government interference
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Postby Neuer California » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:30 am

Dreria wrote:
Neuer California wrote:A decentralized free market system that leaves out those options for a LOT of people

that’s because of the government interference

Bullshit.

Or are you going to prove to us that impoverished rural areas and inner cities aren't getting investment because of government interference rather than because there aren't people with the necessary skills and experience coming out of there to make it worth their while?
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Ifreann wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Does this mean wlw is most holy in God's eyes?

It turns out that lesbians are God's chosen people.

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Postby Dreria » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:31 am

Neuer California wrote:
Dreria wrote:that’s because of the government interference

Bullshit.

Or are you going to prove to us that impoverished rural areas and inner cities aren't getting investment because of government interference rather than because there aren't people with the necessary skills and experience coming out of there to make it worth their while?

yeah that’s called basic economics
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Postby Esalia » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:04 am

Dreria wrote:
Esalia wrote:
Ah yes, "promoting family values" by...

Cutting down how many weeks a family gets to be with their child.

Yes, this totally makes sense.

It will give them motivation to get a better job


And completely flies in the face of ""family values"", which was your initial argument.
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Postby Neuer California » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:12 am

Dreria wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Bullshit.

Or are you going to prove to us that impoverished rural areas and inner cities aren't getting investment because of government interference rather than because there aren't people with the necessary skills and experience coming out of there to make it worth their while?

yeah that’s called basic economics

Yeah, even at its mast basic level, economics doesn't say anything near what you claim it does.
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Ifreann wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Does this mean wlw is most holy in God's eyes?

It turns out that lesbians are God's chosen people.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:28 am

Dreria wrote:
Galloism wrote:There’s another horrifying thing.

(Largely) Female consumers, through the magic of the free market, are having baby boys genitals mutilated so they can harvest the foreskins for use in skin rejuvenating makeup.

Yeah.

No, really. Yeah. That’s a thing. That happens today and now.

Cool it with the anti semitism


Where's the anti semitism there?
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