The NationStates Feminism Thread IV: Fight Like A Girl!

[New haven america]

Same reason they don't like Uzaki-Chan: Likely Anti-Japanese Racism. They're still living in World War II.

I actually sincerely doubt that's the actual reason. Opposition to Uzaki-chan was also localized heavily in Japan, with claims of pedophilic design of the character... Which, yeah, make no sense, but that's why we research and ask questions, dumb as they are.

From what I understand about opposition to Vtubers, they believe Vtubers will destroy the landscape of female streamers and YouTubers via saturation and an unrealistic standard of female beauty.

Considering that a lot of the Vtubers are some kind of non-human humanoid creature such as a dog girl or a shark girl or a dragon girl... I mean they're not wrong but they're wrong for a different reason.

Someone should show them Debi and Shiba.

You know, a Demon Koala devil and literal dog.

[The Blaatschapen]

So, something I wanted to bring up for y'all.

About the Vtuber Revolution XD

I honestly don't understand the "feminist" backlash against Vtubers.

Judging from what I have seen of other female streamers, Vtubers aren't only better at the games they play, but in the end it doesn't really matter because they have more personality and are much nicer and chiller to their fans and even their detractors.

Me and my boyfriend love Vtubers (with Korone and Amelia Watson being our favs ) and we honestly don't get it.

While I get the feeling even NationStates doesn't get it and loves Vtubers too, I also get the feeling there's always at least one person who is against for some silly reason and I wanna know!

I have no idea what vtubers are.

[Hirota]

I have no idea what vtubers are.

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

[West Leas Oros 2]

I have no idea what vtubers are.

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

Sounds terrifying.

[The Rich Port]

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

Sounds terrifying.

Only if you are prejudiced towards the future master race, that being robots.

... Have some confessions you wanna make?

[West Leas Oros 2]

Sounds terrifying.

Only if you are prejudiced towards the future master race, that being robots.

... Have some confessions you wanna make?

I fear the day when thirsty weebs can make their waifus real. Science has gone too far!

[Ors Might]

Only if you are prejudiced towards the future master race, that being robots.

... Have some confessions you wanna make?

I fear the day when thirsty weebs can make their waifus real. Science has gone too far!

On the contrary, it hasn’t gone far enough.

I want my thicc swole anime gf and I won’t rest until she crushes my spine over her knee.

[Kowani]

I fear the day when thirsty weebs can make their waifus real. Science has gone too far!

On the contrary, it hasn’t gone far enough.

I want my thicc swole anime gf and I won’t rest until she crushes my spine over her knee.

You want a tsundere?
Why

[Sundiata]

It's striking to see beautiful women pursue lives of celibacy because it's a beautiful calling in of itself.

[West Leas Oros 2]

It's striking to see beautiful women pursue lives of celibacy because it's a beautiful calling in of itself.

It's actually kind of boring and a bit depressing.

[Sundiata]

It's striking to see beautiful women pursue lives of celibacy because it's a beautiful calling in of itself.

It's actually kind of boring and a bit depressing.

On the outside it can seem that way but it's a very special woman who pursues the celibate life. They are truly lovely.

[The Rich Port]

It's actually kind of boring and a bit depressing.

On the outside it can seem that way but it's a very special woman who pursues the celibate life. They are truly lovely.

Uh huh.

Rearing children isn't for everyone and it wasn't meant to be... You should know that better than anyone.

[Sundiata]

On the outside it can seem that way but it's a very special woman who pursues the celibate life. They are truly lovely.

Uh huh.

Rearing children isn't for everyone and it wasn't meant to be... You should know that better than anyone.

Of course, but you can still be married and not have children. The women who forego marriage in favor of celibacy exhibit something special.

[The Blaatschapen]

I have no idea what vtubers are.

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

Thank you.

I don't have an opinion one way or another. . I mean, we have cartoons, also virtual, just the medium is not tv but YouTube.

Given that this is the feminism thread, what does it have to do with each other. What am I missing?

[West Leas Oros 2]

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

Thank you.

I don't have an opinion one way or another. . I mean, we have cartoons, also virtual, just the medium is not tv but YouTube.

Given that this is the feminism thread, what does it have to do with each other. What am I missing?

There's probably an argument about Vtubers, objectification, and whatnot. I don't know, nor do I really care. I could care less about anime girl youtubers.

[Suriyanakhon]

So, something I wanted to bring up for y'all.

About the Vtuber Revolution XD

I honestly don't understand the "feminist" backlash against Vtubers.

Judging from what I have seen of other female streamers, Vtubers aren't only better at the games they play, but in the end it doesn't really matter because they have more personality and are much nicer and chiller to their fans and even their detractors.

Me and my boyfriend love Vtubers (with Korone and Amelia Watson being our favs ) and we honestly don't get it.

While I get the feeling even NationStates doesn't get it and loves Vtubers too, I also get the feeling there's always at least one person who is against for some silly reason and I wanna know!

Same reason they don't like Uzaki-Chan: Likely Anti-Japanese Racism. They're still living in World War II.

You don't have to be racist against Japanese people to be against the creepy sexualization, especially when there are Japanese women themselves who complain about this for years.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Same reason they don't like Uzaki-Chan: Likely Anti-Japanese Racism. They're still living in World War II.

You don't have to be racist against Japanese people to be against the creepy sexualization, especially when there are Japanese women themselves who complain about this for years.

IDK, seems fairly tame.

[The Rich Port]

Same reason they don't like Uzaki-Chan: Likely Anti-Japanese Racism. They're still living in World War II.

You don't have to be racist against Japanese people to be against the creepy sexualization, especially when there are Japanese women themselves who complain about this for years.

You wanna talk about problematic Japanese shit, why don't we talk about the way Japanese women fetishize gay men while we're at it.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos.

These same Japanese women got laughed at and told to be quiet by the rest of Japan sooooo.

[West Leas Oros 2]

You don't have to be racist against Japanese people to be against the creepy sexualization, especially when there are Japanese women themselves who complain about this for years.

You wanna talk about problematic Japanese shit, why don't we talk about the way Japanese women fetishize gay men while we're at it.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos.

These same Japanese women got laughed at and told to be quiet by the rest of Japan sooooo.

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos" is the worst thing i've heard in a while.

[Suriyanakhon]

You don't have to be racist against Japanese people to be against the creepy sexualization, especially when there are Japanese women themselves who complain about this for years.

You wanna talk about problematic Japanese shit, why don't we talk about the way Japanese women fetishize gay men while we're at it.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos.

These same Japanese women got laughed at and told to be quiet by the rest of Japan sooooo.

Sure, there are spaces to talk about the fetishization that LGBTQ+ people experience. But it doesn't invalidate the fact that there's some pretty grotesque fetishization of young girls in Japanese animation and pop culture. And I don't think that these bunch of old women divers who probably barely get by on the sea food they sell are lecherous fujoshi's. Could be wrong but it's just not relevant.

[The Rich Port]

You wanna talk about problematic Japanese shit, why don't we talk about the way Japanese women fetishize gay men while we're at it.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos.

These same Japanese women got laughed at and told to be quiet by the rest of Japan sooooo.

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos" is the worst thing i've heard in a while.

Very popular in Japan I've heard XD

You wanna talk about problematic Japanese shit, why don't we talk about the way Japanese women fetishize gay men while we're at it.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw dragon dildos.

These same Japanese women got laughed at and told to be quiet by the rest of Japan sooooo.

Sure, there are spaces to talk about the fetishization that LGBTQ+ people experience. But it doesn't invalidate the fact that there's some pretty grotesque fetishization of young girls in Japanese animation and pop culture. And I don't think that these bunch of old women divers who probably barely get by on the sea food they sell are lecherous fujoshi's. Could be wrong but it's just not relevant.

Ya got any better examples than a girl who is considered an adult in the prefecture she was meant to represent?

You're not entirely wrong that Japan has unfortunately lax interpretations of adulthood, but Vtubers are most certainly not a good example of that, nor have any of their recent targets I've heard of. There have indeed been times when Japan has pushed the envelope and for the most part it is widely rejected. Most of these representations are of age and their main appeal is their personality and the fun they bring to the video games they play or the things they watch or the things they represent, while the few young ones are not sexualized at all.

How much is this concern trolling from Japanese traditionalists (tHiNk OF dE cHiLdReNz) who cling onto the very culture that encourages this kind of shit and how much is it misguided to begin with? (Shouldn't they be going after politicians instead of the girls themselves or their employers for that matter?)

[The Rich Port]

Vtubers are Virtual Youtubers - often people connected to Anime characters (normally Waifus) through facial recognition, or even motion capture.

Thank you.

I don't have an opinion one way or another. . I mean, we have cartoons, also virtual, just the medium is not tv but YouTube.

Given that this is the feminism thread, what does it have to do with each other. What am I missing?

I would argue that it's very representative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lusGw2t ... anslations

For real. Look at this. This is one of the sweetest things I've ever heard. Two girls who love each other a lot, as friends. Nothing sexual about it... At least for me y'all can make it about that I guess =_=

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Thank you.

I don't have an opinion one way or another. . I mean, we have cartoons, also virtual, just the medium is not tv but YouTube.

Given that this is the feminism thread, what does it have to do with each other. What am I missing?

I would argue that it's very representative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lusGw2t ... anslations

For real. Look at this. This is one of the sweetest things I've ever heard. Two girls who love each other a lot, as friends. Nothing sexual about it... At least for me y'all can make it about that I guess =_=

Had a guy accuse me of being gay for having a strong attachment to my brother.

MY OWN BROTHER, my flesh and blood. My DNA.

[The Rich Port]

I would argue that it's very representative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lusGw2t ... anslations

For real. Look at this. This is one of the sweetest things I've ever heard. Two girls who love each other a lot, as friends. Nothing sexual about it... At least for me y'all can make it about that I guess =_=

Had a guy accuse me of being gay for having a strong attachment to my brother.

MY OWN BROTHER, my flesh and blood. My DNA.

Says a lot about our shitty society, tbh.

Intimacy is dumb, love between friends isn't real, sex is disgusting and it's on every magazine cover because of it, dressing up kids on Toddlers and Tiaras in horrific outfits is fine but God forbid if you're one year over the age limit, and being a jerk is just being smart.

[Ors Might]

On the contrary, it hasn’t gone far enough.

I want my thicc swole anime gf and I won’t rest until she crushes my spine over her knee.

You want a tsundere?
Why

No I want an amazonian queen who has the capability to shatter every bone in my body.

don’t kinkshame me