Viva la Chaz! Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)

[Ifreann]

Interesting scare quotes you have there.

Not really. Last I heard nothing was confirmed, just speculation.

So far as I am aware, nobody denies that Derek Chauvin choked George Floyd to death by kneeling on his neck for around nine minutes. I don't know what speculation you think is going on. Certainly some people think it was legal for Chauvin to choke Floyd to death, but legally choking someone to death is still choking someone to death.

[Conterale]

Do I have to bring out the CIA statistics on Soviet dietary habits, or are we going to go back to the realm of reality?

Do I need to bring out Holodomor and Great Leap Forward, or are we going to go back to the actual reality?

Ah yes, because 2 famines represent the entire history of a country. Now I can laugh at indians and irish because they also had giant famines, oh and the U.S is always starving. How do i know? Because people starved during the great depression. Checkmate, communists.

[Conterale]

It's an ok idea, but they might need to organize their sources of food a bit more, as well as combat statist propaganda trying to make it out as some sort of hell. Anarchy will never be accepted by the government, and so they will use their resources to defame and destroy any commune which arises.

[Aureumterra]

It's an ok idea, but they might need to organize their sources of food a bit more, as well as combat statist propaganda trying to make it out as some sort of hell. Anarchy will never be accepted by the government, and so they will use their resources to defame and destroy any commune which arises.

According to their own website, most people go home at night, outside of the CHAZ area. It’s not really a commune as in having a permanent, self sustaining population

[Conterale]

It's an ok idea, but they might need to organize their sources of food a bit more, as well as combat statist propaganda trying to make it out as some sort of hell. Anarchy will never be accepted by the government, and so they will use their resources to defame and destroy any commune which arises.

According to their own website, most people go home at night, outside of the CHAZ area. It’s not really a commune as in having a permanent, self sustaining population

true.
But even if it is a commune or not, all comrades must come together and fight statist propaganda.

[Ifreann]

It's an ok idea, but they might need to organize their sources of food a bit more, as well as combat statist propaganda trying to make it out as some sort of hell. Anarchy will never be accepted by the government, and so they will use their resources to defame and destroy any commune which arises.

According to their own website, most people go home at night, outside of the CHAZ area. It’s not really a commune as in having a permanent, self sustaining population

Does it matter whether it has a permanent, self-sustaining population?

[Aureumterra]

According to their own website, most people go home at night, outside of the CHAZ area. It’s not really a commune as in having a permanent, self sustaining population

Does it matter whether it has a permanent, self-sustaining population?

If you’re going to call it an anarchist commune, that’s a pretty important detail. Otherwise, it’s just a glorified protest without police, which is basically what it is.

[Russoslava]

This is an armed insurrection by terrorists such as ANTIFA and should be put down. ANTIFA are nothing more than Communists Thugs and Terrorists.

[Servilis]

This is an armed insurrection by terrorists such as ANTIFA and should be put down. ANTIFA are nothing more than Communists Thugs and Terrorists.

Who have no official or validated record of committing Terrorist acts... Nor is ANTIFA an organization, not since the 40s.

[Russoslava]

This is an armed insurrection by terrorists such as ANTIFA and should be put down. ANTIFA are nothing more than Communists Thugs and Terrorists.

Who have no official or validated record of committing Terrorist acts... Nor is ANTIFA an organization, not since the 40s.

The President signed a document that labels ANTIFA a terrorist organization. They used fear and physical attacks on those who oppose them politically to further their political agenda. they're the dictionary definition of terrorists.

[Servilis]

Who have no official or validated record of committing Terrorist acts... Nor is ANTIFA an organization, not since the 40s.

The President signed a document that labels ANTIFA a terrorist organization. They used fear and physical attacks on those who oppose them politically to further their political agenda. they're the dictionary definition of terrorists.

There are no registered organizations under the name ANTIFA.
The Law makes no changes.

There is no ANTIFA.
There is no ANTIFA Costume.
There are no ANTIFA members.
There hasn't been anything of the sort since Anti-Faschiste Aktione disbanded in the late 40s when WW2 ended as the Group felt that their goals had been achieved and there was no point in keeping the organization alive.

[Aureumterra]

Who have no official or validated record of committing Terrorist acts... Nor is ANTIFA an organization, not since the 40s.

The President signed a document that labels ANTIFA a terrorist organization. They used fear and physical attacks on those who oppose them politically to further their political agenda. they're the dictionary definition of terrorists.

Antifa isn’t an organization, but there are many Antifa organizations loosely connected. But it’s not like there’s a central leader or an annual antifa convention or anything (unless you count labour day protests)

[Servilis]

The President signed a document that labels ANTIFA a terrorist organization. They used fear and physical attacks on those who oppose them politically to further their political agenda. they're the dictionary definition of terrorists.

Antifa isn’t an organization, but there are many Antifa organizations loosely connected. But it’s not like there’s a central leader or an annual antifa convention or anything (unless you count labour day protests)

I wouldn't really consider Twitter accounts that focus on Anti-Fascist praxis in their local area to be organizations, but nonetheless, there is no "ANTIFA Terrorism"

[Russoslava]

The President signed a document that labels ANTIFA a terrorist organization. They used fear and physical attacks on those who oppose them politically to further their political agenda. they're the dictionary definition of terrorists.

There are no registered organizations under the name ANTIFA.
The Law makes no changes.

doesn't matter, ANTIFA exists and they're terrorists, them not being a registered organization doesn't change the fact that they're terrorists. My great great grandfather didn't leave Russia to flee Communist persecution for only he's adopted country to fall to the same fate only a handful of generations later.

[Servilis]

There are no registered organizations under the name ANTIFA.
The Law makes no changes.

doesn't matter, ANTIFA exists and they're terrorists, them not being a registered organization doesn't change the fact that they're terrorists. My great great grandfather didn't leave Russia to flee Communist persecution for only he's adopted country to fall to the same fate only a handful of generations later.

Under that definition a 15 year old girl like myself who has never even been charged with a crime, and also does not live in the US am somehow a Terrorist?


Very sound argument ya' got there.

What evidence do you have of these "terrorist acts" you keep whining about?

[Ifreann]

Does it matter whether it has a permanent, self-sustaining population?

If you’re going to call it an anarchist commune, that’s a pretty important detail. Otherwise, it’s just a glorified protest without police, which is basically what it is.

Why is it an important detail?

It seems a lot like you're saying that if the CHAZ sees any success then it isn't a real anarchist commune, which is something the left are usually accused of doing in the opposite direction.

[Russoslava]

doesn't matter, ANTIFA exists and they're terrorists, them not being a registered organization doesn't change the fact that they're terrorists. My great great grandfather didn't leave Russia to flee Communist persecution for only he's adopted country to fall to the same fate only a handful of generations later.

Under that definition a 15 year old girl like myself who has never even been charged with a crime, and also does not live in the US am somehow a Terrorist?


Very sound argument ya' got there.

What evidence do you have of these "terrorist acts" you keep whining about?

Berkely where they burned down the Campist almost. there are many more examples of that. Being an Anti-fascist doesn't make you a terrorist. Physically attacking and actually suppressing the voice of those who oppose you in politics is the actual definition of terrorism. If you use fear and terror to further your political agenda as ANTIFA does then you're a terrorist.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Does it matter whether it has a permanent, self-sustaining population?

If you’re going to call it an anarchist commune, that’s a pretty important detail. Otherwise, it’s just a glorified protest without police, which is basically what it is.

It's more like a mix between a riot and a protest. The sort of riot behavior of raiding businesses and looting that a riot has, but since they are no police to stop the behaviour it's kinda in a weird limbo.

[Salandriagado]

Unless there's some suggestion that he's executed someone, including "executioner" is rather a dramatic stretch.

ex·e·cute
/ˈeksəˌkyo͞ot/

carry out or put into effect (a plan, order, or course of action).
"the corporation executed a series of financial deals"

produce (a work of art).
"not only does she execute embroideries, she designs them too"
perform (an activity or maneuver requiring care or skill).
"they had to execute their dance steps with the greatest precision"

LAW
make (a legal instrument) valid by signing or sealing it.

LAW
carry out (a judicial sentence, the terms of a will, or other order).
"police executed a search warrant"

That's not the sense in which it's being used, and you fucking know it.

[The Crownless]

That's not the sense in which it's being used, and you fucking know it.

Not only is that not the sense in which it's being used, it's not the same word that was used. While "execute" can mean various things, an "executioner" is specifically a person who carries out a death sentence. Someone who carries out a task or duty in general is an "executor."

Similarly, an electrician is not the same as an electrocutioner.

[Aclion]

It's an ok idea, but they might need to organize their sources of food a bit more, as well as combat statist propaganda trying to make it out as some sort of hell. Anarchy will never be accepted by the government, and so they will use their resources to defame and destroy any commune which arises.

If it's not a shithole the best thing you could do is... not attack people filming in it.

[Aureumterra]

If you’re going to call it an anarchist commune, that’s a pretty important detail. Otherwise, it’s just a glorified protest without police, which is basically what it is.

It's more like a mix between a riot and a protest. The sort of riot behavior of raiding businesses and looting that a riot has, but since they are no police to stop the behaviour it's kinda in a weird limbo.

I’m pretty sure the riots have died down, except Atlanta. The protests right now seem to be peaceful, as they should

[Senkaku]

I am once again asking the people who seem to want my city, currently peaceful and operating fine, to devolve into some sort of Tiananmen Square civil war siege thing, to shut the fuck up and stop rooting for people to needlessly die, when we are managing things just fine on our own, things are honestly fine, and the national media is turning this into a circus for naked financial interests and lying to y’all and may end up getting people hurt

I walked through the CHAZ literally yesterday on my way to run some errands and I promise it’s a very calm place, even if it is messing up traffic in the area a bit (though the Pike/Pine/Broadway area was pretty fucked traffic wise before tbh)

"Trust me guys, everything is under control"

The damage control is already starting

What in God’s name are you talking about lmao

“Please stop trying to get people in my city killed” but you read that instead? From off wherever you’re sitting in the caymans or whatever? What is the matter w you

[Holy Tedalonia]

It's more like a mix between a riot and a protest. The sort of riot behavior of raiding businesses and looting that a riot has, but since they are no police to stop the behaviour it's kinda in a weird limbo.

I’m pretty sure the riots have died down, except Atlanta. The protests right now seem to be peaceful, as they should

Yeah I know, just describing what CHAZ seems like. Semi-riot, semi-protest.

[Diarcesia]

They missed an opportunity to create the [College Hall] Autonomous Zone in Princeton.