Viva la Chaz! Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)

[Senkaku]

Domino Theory 2: Electric Boogaloo. Soon the whole West Coast will fall.

*sings* California tumbles into the sea ... that'll be the day I go back to Annandale ...

For California read the whole West Coast.

the cascadia subduction zone is an antifa plot!

[Farnhamia]

*sings* California tumbles into the sea ... that'll be the day I go back to Annandale ...

For California read the whole West Coast.

the cascadia subduction zone is an antifa plot!

Stop Continental Drift Now!

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Apparently in 2018 the Calexit plan proposed giving half of state’s land away to an “autonomous Native American nation.”

I don’t care if they’re backed by Russia, that is the best buffer zone idea ever.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/calexi ... can-nation

[Nilrahrarfan]

I used to be against Gun control. Now I'm not. Now I think guns are the SJW enemy and must be grabbed from everyone.

Thanks for nothing, BLM!

[Aureumterra]

Because rightists and Republicans are determined to discredit the CHAZ as much as possible.

Remember the fabrication that started spreading the other day that the CHAZ had "run out of food"? Total lie, made up by righists to try and get public opinion turned away from the zone.

And who "proved" that it was a lie and how? A neutral third party, or "CHAZ"?

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

[Nilrahrarfan]

And who "proved" that it was a lie and how? A neutral third party, or "CHAZ"?

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

Either we give the businesses free guns, or we become Gun Grabbers and take away the guns. Either way is fine by me. Try both, see which one works better, and use the one that is more effective.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

And who "proved" that it was a lie and how? A neutral third party, or "CHAZ"?

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

That was a police rumor, business owners in Capitol Hill are not saying that.

[Nilrahrarfan]

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

That was a police rumor, business owners in Capitol Hill are not saying that.

And this is a reason why guns should be grabbed, in case the police rumor turns out to be truth.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Why?

The whole endeavor is obnoxious. I get the impression that these folks are not keen on establishing any kind of long-term order to account for their urban vulnerability (i.e. no farmland, therefore no consistent food source).

I’m pretty sure securing food in Seattle will be different from securing food in Age of Empires.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

it's part meme, part protest/mutual aid center, and everything was fine till the far right in other parts of the country heard about it, decided it was the Paris Commune reborn, and is now whipping up a media frenzy of fabrication and insanity that might just have the unfortunate consequence of putting pressure of local officials to needlessly escalate a situation that in fact demands zero urgency or violence

It seems pretty plausible to me the way you describe it.

Meanwhile both rightist and communists have an interest in heavily extragrating and whipping up a media frenzy over it for their own purposes and make it all around bigger and more dramatic than it is.

What do rightists get out of it? They don’t even live there.

[Northern Davincia]

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

That was a police rumor, business owners in Capitol Hill are not saying that.

In all fairness, if they are being extorted, they are probably not keen on admitting to it for fear of retaliation.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

That was a police rumor, business owners in Capitol Hill are not saying that.

In all fairness, if they are being extorted, they are probably not keen on admitting to it for fear of retaliation.

I mean sure but you know it’s not literally the Wild West, right?

[Czechostan]

It seems pretty plausible to me the way you describe it.

Meanwhile both rightist and communists have an interest in heavily extragrating and whipping up a media frenzy over it for their own purposes and make it all around bigger and more dramatic than it is.

What do rightists get out of it? They don’t even live there.

1. They can point to it and say, "see, this is proof of the inherent failures of anarchist communes."

2. It's another excuse to send a militarized police force in.

[Northern Davincia]

The whole endeavor is obnoxious. I get the impression that these folks are not keen on establishing any kind of long-term order to account for their urban vulnerability (i.e. no farmland, therefore no consistent food source).

I’m pretty sure securing food in Seattle will be different from securing food in Age of Empires.

If the plan is to be fully autonomous, they will have to find a way to support themselves beyond exclusive dependence on the United States.
Unless this is just a temporary protest under the guise of separatism.

It seems pretty plausible to me the way you describe it.

Meanwhile both rightist and communists have an interest in heavily extragrating and whipping up a media frenzy over it for their own purposes and make it all around bigger and more dramatic than it is.

What do rightists get out of it? They don’t even live there.

If CHAZ falls, it will discourage similar acts supported by ancoms.

In all fairness, if they are being extorted, they are probably not keen on admitting to it for fear of retaliation.

I mean sure but you know it’s not literally the Wild West, right?

Yes, but I wish it was.

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Better yet just turn off the water there.

yes good idea, turn off water to the hundreds of residents of the apartments in the area who aren't associated with the demonstrators as well as the dozens of small businesses who are just going about their lives

literally what is up with these unhinged "LAY SIEGE TO THEM" responses, people it is a damn protest calm down

Put up one unauthorized fence and suddenly everyone’s looking at their local basic hipsters like they’re Bloodz and Cripz and Mafiosos or something. That’s a police state mentality, and exactly why the CHAZ will go down for heroically evicting the police from at least one neighborhood in America.

[The Black Forrest]

yes good idea, turn off water to the hundreds of residents of the apartments in the area who aren't associated with the demonstrators as well as the dozens of small businesses who are just going about their lives

literally what is up with these unhinged "LAY SIEGE TO THEM" responses, people it is a damn protest calm down

Put up one unauthorized fence and suddenly everyone’s looking at their local basic hipsters like they’re Bloodz and Cripz and Mafiosos or something. That’s a police state mentality, and exactly why the CHAZ will go down for heroically evicting the police from at least one neighborhood in America.

As opposed to the hipsters you aren't the boss of me.

CHAZ didn't evict them.

[Czechostan]

If the plan is to be fully autonomous, they will have to find a way to support themselves beyond exclusive dependence on the United States.
Unless this is just a temporary protest under the guise of separatism..

They don't really have a plan, since this was so spontaneous, and it's not like most of the people in the community were consulted. But yeah, it'd be difficult to build an autonomous zone in the middle of a US city...

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Put up one unauthorized fence and suddenly everyone’s looking at their local basic hipsters like they’re Bloodz and Cripz and Mafiosos or something. That’s a police state mentality, and exactly why the CHAZ will go down for heroically evicting the police from at least one neighborhood in America.

As opposed to the hipsters you aren't the boss of me.

CHAZ didn't evict them.

Well if you want to add more definition to the image, I’d say it wasn’t just hipsters, and the organizing done by the Socialist Alternative and other groups in Seattle over the past several years helped lead to this moment, as a historical development.

[James_xenoland]

Because rightists and Republicans are determined to discredit the CHAZ as much as possible.

Remember the fabrication that started spreading the other day that the CHAZ had "run out of food"? Total lie, made up by righists to try and get public opinion turned away from the zone.

Right-wingers are just upset they couldn’t figure out how to do this in Michigan.

Now all those gun-waving militia men in the capitol crying ‘down with the Whitmer dictatorship!’ seem kind of amateur next to the CHAZ.

lol Do what? Become a huge fucking joke that most of the country and world are laughing at?!

[Senkaku]

That was a police rumor, business owners in Capitol Hill are not saying that.

In all fairness, if they are being extorted, they are probably not keen on admitting to it for fear of retaliation.

you are actively doing work here to believe in a lie lmao

I’m pretty sure securing food in Seattle will be different from securing food in Age of Empires.

If the plan is to be fully autonomous,

it isn't. why are you just making things up

they will have to find a way to support themselves beyond exclusive dependence on the United States.

they won't

Unless this is just a temporary protest under the guise of separatism.

mary mother of god and christ on the cross have you ignored everything I've written

are there any other posters from Seattle you deem more credible sources who've also been in the area bc jfc

What do rightists get out of it? They don’t even live there.

If CHAZ falls, it will discourage similar acts supported by ancoms.

pretty sure ancoms will keep believing the same stuff whether or not this works out, they persisted after Paris and Catalonia crashed and burned in far more spectacular fashion

I mean sure but you know it’s not literally the Wild West, right?

Yes, but I wish it was.

well, I can sympathize with that, at least

it would be pretty cool if we were going full French Revolution

but come on, you really think Americans have the stones for cool shit any more?

It seems pretty plausible to me the way you describe it.

Meanwhile both rightist and communists have an interest in heavily extragrating and whipping up a media frenzy over it for their own purposes and make it all around bigger and more dramatic than it is.

What do rightists get out of it? They don’t even live there.

1. clicks (aka ad revenue). seriously this is a big deal
2. something to scare people with (I guarantee you there is a 50something white lady in Pierce County somewhere losing her mind bc she thinks BLM ancom revolutionaries are about to drive out to her cul de sac and kill her family, and she's going to be more likely to vote and donate to right wing causes)
3. a justification to use force against people they dislike (you needn't look further than Cotton's op-ed or Trump's tweets to see that many in the American right would love to be able to launch a violent crackdown on ppl they see as undesirable elements, aka people of color and leftists)

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

Either we give the businesses free guns, or we become Gun Grabbers and take away the guns. Either way is fine by me. Try both, see which one works better, and use the one that is more effective.

I would love it if random fucking weirdos on the Internet stopped rooting for people in my city to die violent deaths

And who "proved" that it was a lie and how? A neutral third party, or "CHAZ"?

It wasn’t a lie, the businesses are being extorted

Yes, it was, they aren't, what the hell

I know it's fun to type words but they do actually convey meaning

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Right-wingers are just upset they couldn’t figure out how to do this in Michigan.

Now all those gun-waving militia men in the capitol crying ‘down with the Whitmer dictatorship!’ seem kind of amateur next to the CHAZ.

lol Do what? Become a huge fucking joke that most of the country and world are laughing at?!

No, the victims of Gretchen Whitmer definitely accomplished that mission on their own.

[Senkaku]

yes good idea, turn off water to the hundreds of residents of the apartments in the area who aren't associated with the demonstrators as well as the dozens of small businesses who are just going about their lives

literally what is up with these unhinged "LAY SIEGE TO THEM" responses, people it is a damn protest calm down

Put up one unauthorized fence and suddenly everyone’s looking at their local basic hipsters like they’re Bloodz and Cripz and Mafiosos or something. That’s a police state mentality, and exactly why the CHAZ will go down for heroically evicting the police from at least one neighborhood in America.

they have not "evicted" them lmao the cops intentionally left, hoping that the east precinct would get burned down and that they could turn that into anti-demonstrator media coverage, and now that that hasn't happened and they look like assholes, they're back in the zone inspecting the building and stating they want to have it back

again: COPS CAN GO INTO THE AREA, they are just choosing not to

but you are right abt the police state mentality bit

[Brunswick-upon-Raritan]

Put up one unauthorized fence and suddenly everyone’s looking at their local basic hipsters like they’re Bloodz and Cripz and Mafiosos or something. That’s a police state mentality, and exactly why the CHAZ will go down for heroically evicting the police from at least one neighborhood in America.

they have not "evicted" them lmao the cops intentionally left, hoping that the east precinct would get burned down and that they could turn that into anti-demonstrator media coverage, and now that that hasn't happened and they look like assholes, they're back in the zone inspecting the building and stating they want to have it back

again: COPS CAN GO INTO THE AREA, they are just choosing not to

but you are right abt the police state mentality bit

I mean yes the CHAZ has no legal authority to “evict” anyone, I mean eviction as a metaphor for all the political confrontations that led up to the point of the SPD deciding to leave the area. I agree it is probably less dramatic than actual evictions, which actually do ruin people’s lives, and is something the CHAZ probably has a lot to say about re: housing, rent, and land reform in Seattle.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

Quoting some person on the Internet who claims to live in Capitol Hill. They seem relatively well-off and come across as quite arrogant, but I trust their take on CHAZian demographics.

CHAZ is about four groups of people:

[*]Raz Simone and his half-dozen buddies taking pictures of themselves with guns
[*]About 10-15 BLM speakers who are still vainly trying to make this about criminal justice
[*]20-30 anarchists/communists and Kshama Sawant disciples whose main objective is to convince their friends in Brooklyn and on social media that they've done something important for the cause.
[*]20-30 bored, unemployed hipsters and college kids who just want to smoke pot and ironically pretend like they're a part of Sealand 2.0

Voted 1 week to 1 month in the poll.

[Senkaku]

Quoting some person on the Internet who claims to live in Capitol Hill. They seem relatively well-off and come across as quite arrogant, but I trust their take on CHAZian demographics.

CHAZ is about four groups of people:

[*]Raz Simone and his half-dozen buddies taking pictures of themselves with guns
[*]About 10-15 BLM speakers who are still vainly trying to make this about criminal justice
[*]20-30 anarchists/communists and Kshama Sawant disciples whose main objective is to convince their friends in Brooklyn and on social media that they've done something important for the cause.
[*]20-30 bored, unemployed hipsters and college kids who just want to smoke pot and ironically pretend like they're a part of Sealand 2.0

Voted 1 week to 1 month in the poll.

this is an accurate assessment, though I think esp during the day people who're more BLM protest types circulate in a bit

and well-off and arrogant seems par for the course for Capitol Hill lol it's all software yuppies and Amazon people, but their take is accurate