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Is Antifa a terrorist group and should it be banned?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:04 pm
by Neuer Deutsches Reich
Antifa has been blamed for the looting, chaos and violence in the protests going on around the world. They already were known to be a extremist violent group. Antifa is the anti-fascist organization for those who don’t know. Some people think that they are doing good, but a lot of people think that they themselves are acting like fascists. Wearing black, marching trough the streets with flags and torches, fighting with other groups and people standing in their way. When news try to interview the groups it results in the camera being blocked and the interviewer being hit, freedom of speech is something they don’t like. A bigger and bigger group thinks these extremists and their group should be banned, what do you think?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:08 pm
by Rojava Free State
Antifa means antifascist. Many antifascist groups exist and while some are violent, some are peaceful. Criminalizing antifa would basically mean being against fascism is illegal, and it's one of the dumbest things the fucking dipshit we call a president has suggested. What should be asked is "is Rose City Antifa a terror group?" Technically they are because they commit violence for political reasons but they're honestly no more dangerous than a street gang. These guys are pretty embarrassing for terrorists. Don't give them the satisfaction of being labeled terrorists, and don't give our president the power to basically crush out descent under the guise of security.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 pm
by Stellar Colonies
AntiFa is an unified organization?

Since when?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm
by Valrifell
No it would only make them cooler and feed into the left-revolutionary aesthetic.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by Nevertopia
Stellar Colonies wrote:AntiFa is an unified organization?

Since when?


my sentiments exactly. Antifa isnt a terrorist organization, its just random people protesting making random people decisions.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by Eahland
There's a word for people who are anti-anti-fascist.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:18 pm
by Grenartia
Antifa are the good guys, and it should be mentioned that an overwhelming majority of the time these protests turn violent, the cops, either overtly or covertly (or neonazis), are instigating it. See: AutoZone guy.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:21 pm
by Kowani
Antifa can’t be a terrorist organization until they get their checks from the CIA .

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:22 pm
by Nakena
Antifa isn't a centralized entity, but more of a franchise of which various groups or people consider themself part of. Or not.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm
by Estanglia
Depends.

Individual groups claiming to be anti-fascist? Potentially.

Antifa as a whole? Since there's no whole, unified, organised Antifa, that would be impossible unless you want to ban any and all forms of antifascism, or all groups calling themselves antifascist.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 pm
by South Reinkalistan
Antifa cannot be a "terrorist organisation", as it is not an "organisation" to begin with.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm
by Rojava Free State
Are we gonna declare Liberterianism a terror group next? This was as dumb as Trump unironically trying to find the CEO of racism.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm
by Dollystana
This is only distracting from the real terrorists, Al-Aardvarkia! They caused 9/11 and all aardvarks are members!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:27 pm
by Elsa De Arendelle
If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:27 pm
by Rojava Free State
Dollystana wrote:This is only distracting from the real terrorists, Al-Aardvarkia! They caused 9/11 and all aardvarks are members!


Allahu Arthur Reed.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:29 pm
by Czechostan
1. Antifa isn't a single, top-down organization but a horizontal movement of autonomous groups.

2. Although right-wingers like to harp on Antifa using violent tactics, people from Antifa do a lot more, like making hand-sanitizer for essential workers and organizing relief networks for victims of Hurricane Harvey.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:29 pm
by The New California Republic
It isn't an organiza...

*sees multiple posts saying that exact same thing already*

...oh. OK.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:30 pm
by Valrifell
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't an organiza...

*sees multiple posts saying that exact same thing already*

...oh. OK.


No, no, go ahead. We can never have too many reminders

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:30 pm
by South Reinkalistan
Elsa De Arendelle wrote:If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

I can't imagine fascists would impose free speech upon a society. If antifa wants to deplatform and shut down fascists, does that still make them evil?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:33 pm
by Nakena
The major problem is the tendency of some antifa-groups and individuals to attack people way beyond lets say some Neo-Nazi thugs or kluxers.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:34 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:38 pm
by Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories
Banning anti-fascism sounds like a remarkably bad idea for anyone who isn't a fascist.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:38 pm
by Rojava Free State
South Reinkalistan wrote:
Elsa De Arendelle wrote:If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

I can't imagine fascists would impose free speech upon a society. If antifa wants to deplatform and shut down fascists, does that still make them evil?


Evil no. Wrong yes. Even fascists should be allowed to speak. When we let the craziest people on all sides speak we know our ideas are probably safe, and besides, don't you wanna know who the racists are so you can steer clear of them?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:39 pm
by Rojava Free State
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism


Oh no, I forgot. You think the YPG possibly supporting the PKK who bomb police are somehow fascist.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:39 pm
by Heloin
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism

Only good people in that picture. Try again.