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by Antityranicals » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:45 pm
by The Andromeda Island Group » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:47 pm
by Antityranicals » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:48 pm
US-SSR wrote:FDR, recovered from the Great Depression, led national effort to win global war on two fronts, promoted the United Nations, won election four times. Four. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4. Take a suck of that, Republicans. otoh a lousy husband and martini mixer (he reversed the proportions of gin and vermouth. ick). Oh and he fucking had polio.
by Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:49 pm
by Ngelmish » Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:58 pm
by US-SSR » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:30 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:US-SSR wrote:FDR, recovered from the Great Depression, led national effort to win global war on two fronts, promoted the United Nations, won election four times. Four. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4. Take a suck of that, Republicans. otoh a lousy husband and martini mixer (he reversed the proportions of gin and vermouth. ick). Oh and he fucking had polio.
Ignoring the entirely false claim of him causing a recovery from the Depression (effects of which were still felt into the late 1940's and early 1950's) he also used the IRS to harass political opponents, tried to rig the courts and in the process bullied them into granting more or less total approval to his very unconstitutional programs, massively expanded government powers, spied on domestic groups, taxed constitutional rights, refused to sign an anti-lynching bill because it would have harmed him politically, set up race based concentration camps. The list goes on and on, but I guess authoritarianism is only bad when the other party does it.
by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:38 pm
US-SSR wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ignoring the entirely false claim of him causing a recovery from the Depression (effects of which were still felt into the late 1940's and early 1950's) he also used the IRS to harass political opponents, tried to rig the courts and in the process bullied them into granting more or less total approval to his very unconstitutional programs, massively expanded government powers, spied on domestic groups, taxed constitutional rights, refused to sign an anti-lynching bill because it would have harmed him politically, set up race based concentration camps. The list goes on and on, but I guess authoritarianism is only bad when the other party does it.
Trump checks every one of those boxes plus trashed the economy and sicced the military on peaceful protesters after hiding in the White House basement and turning off all the lights and 35-40% still think his shit don't stink. And he's got what, bone spurs. Please.
by Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:42 pm
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:Our country had capable leaders who projected stability in difficult times from 1933 to 1969. Whatever you thought of FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, JFK or LBJ, you can't doubt that they at least appeared to be reassuring figures overall. That era began with FDR who shepherded the nation through the Great Depression, essentially established the modern American state and led us through most of WWII.
Personally, overall, I'd rank George Washington and Abraham Lincoln higher, but among the President with a D next to their name, FDR was the best.
by Stellonia » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:31 pm
Chan Island wrote:Edit: By the way, Wilson was trash and deserves nothing.
Antityranicals wrote:Just like in the Republican poll, my favorite Democrat, Grover Cleveland, isn't on there!
Bear Stearns wrote:Jackson, followed Polk and Kennedy
Washington Resistance Army wrote:He sucks but he's not smart enough to be as authoritarian as FDR.
by Kowani » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:34 pm
Antityranicals wrote:US-SSR wrote:FDR, recovered from the Great Depression, led national effort to win global war on two fronts, promoted the United Nations, won election four times. Four. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4. Take a suck of that, Republicans. otoh a lousy husband and martini mixer (he reversed the proportions of gin and vermouth. ick). Oh and he fucking had polio.
Well yeah, if you're president for THIRTEEN BLOODY YEARS, I guess it would be quite difficult NOT to eventually get out of recession. The really embarrasing thing is that he really needed all of that time, even after it was already three years in.
by Holy Roman Empires2 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:37 pm
by -Astoria » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:43 pm
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