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by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:23 am
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:24 am
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:26 am
Sultan Vahdettin wants her period back because most of the Ottoman sultans were educated peopleKargintina the Third wrote:1000% certain Erdogan wants the Ottoman Empire back
Turkey is aiming to maintain its border security, but the wrong way (To collect votes)
by Dylar » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:28 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:29 am
Unfortunately, you're right
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:29 am
Dylar wrote:>not returning it to an Orthodox church
bruh
by The Archregimancy » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:30 am
by Dylar » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:32 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:33 am
The most important thing is to damage the historical texture. they have neither respect for nature nor history.
by The Two Jerseys » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:38 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Looks that way. I wonder if he will one day try to conquer more territory like the ottomans did before.
Glances at Syria nervously.
In all seriousness, though, that's not really gonna happen. The only expansion opportunities for Erdogan are the Balkans, Middle East, and Caucasus, all of which carry their own several degrees of "nope" when it comes to military occupation.
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:42 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:For some reason I imagine Viktor Orban hoping that he tries it...
The Two Jerseys wrote:South Reinkalistan wrote:Hot take: make it a museum or something else, provided it's a wholly secular endeavour. Can't have religious bickering if religion is removed from the equation.
Really hot take: let Muslims pray there one day of the week, let Christians pray there one day of the week, and let it be a museum the rest of the week.
Crazy, ain't it?
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:53 am
This is disrespect for the values of our founding leaders. It is wrong to use religious beliefs to collect votes
by New Bremerton » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:22 am
by Britannia Maior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am
Kargintina the Third wrote:1000% certain Erdogan wants the Ottoman Empire back
| The Times |
by -Astoria » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:28 am
New Bremerton wrote:What Erdogan is doing is a form of symbolic conquest and cultural genocide. It is an insult to the Greeks and Christians who were conquered and subjugated at the hands of bloodthirsty Turkish Muslim conquerors many centuries ago. Hagia Sophia should either be open to all faiths or none. Muslims are permitted to pray at the Hagia Sophia, a Byzantine Greek Christian Orthodox cathedral that was conquered by Turkish Muslim jihadists, but Jews are forbidden from praying at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem because it "offends Muslim sensitivities" and "Palestine will be free"?
Fuck that and fuck Muslim supremacy, which is far more mainstream and socially accepted in the Muslim world than white supremacy is in America and Europe, hence the reason #InfidelLivesMatter in Muslim countries actually makes sense, whereas #BlackLivesMatter in America doesn't. Why should Muslims and Muslims alone get to trample over the rights and dignity of non-Muslims whom they have already conquered and subjugated in their part of the world, including my home country?
Infidel Lives Matter. ALL Lives Matter. I stand with Greece, Israel, and Europe against Turkish and Islamic cultural genocide, subjugation, persecution, and imperialism. Minorities across the Muslim world must rise up and demand equality and dignity before the law. But I fear that if we do so, the persecution against us will only intensify further. That's the difference between America and the Muslim world. One of them respects and upholds civil rights both officially and in practice. The other would rather infidels like us were wiped from the face of the Earth.
by Britannia Maior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:29 am
New Bremerton wrote:What Erdogan is doing is a form of symbolic conquest and cultural genocide. It is an insult to the Greeks and Christians who were conquered and subjugated at the hands of bloodthirsty Turkish Muslim conquerors many centuries ago. Hagia Sophia should either be open to all faiths or none. Muslims are permitted to pray at the Hagia Sophia, a Byzantine Greek Christian Orthodox cathedral that was conquered by Turkish Muslim jihadists, but Jews are forbidden from praying at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem because it "offends Muslim sensitivities" and "Palestine will be free"?
Fuck that and fuck Muslim supremacy, which is far more mainstream and socially accepted in the Muslim world than white supremacy is in America and Europe, hence the reason #InfidelLivesMatter in Muslim countries actually makes sense, whereas #BlackLivesMatter in America doesn't. Why should Muslims and Muslims alone get to trample over the rights and dignity of non-Muslims whom they have already conquered and subjugated in their part of the world, including my home country?
Infidel Lives Matter. ALL Lives Matter. I stand with Greece, Israel, and Europe against Turkish and Islamic cultural genocide, subjugation, persecution, and imperialism. Minorities across the Muslim world must rise up and demand equality and dignity before the law. But I fear that if we do so, the persecution against us will only intensify further. That's the difference between America and the Muslim world. One of them respects and upholds civil rights both officially and in practice. The other would rather infidels like us were wiped from the face of the Earth.
| The Times |
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:35 am
Britannia Maior wrote:Agreed. Even as an atheist, it sickens me to see such an anti-Christian display while anything of the sort against the Ummah would cause the vain Caucasian liberals of the West to riot and burn shite.
by Britannia Maior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:38 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:Britannia Maior wrote:Agreed. Even as an atheist, it sickens me to see such an anti-Christian display while anything of the sort against the Ummah would cause the vain Caucasian liberals of the West to riot and burn shite.
This is why religion is, by and large, an archaic construct best consigned to irrelevancy.
| The Times |
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:41 am
Britannia Maior wrote:South Reinkalistan wrote:This is why religion is, by and large, an archaic construct best consigned to irrelevancy.
I don’t disagree, but I personally prefer nations maintain a sliver of religious tradition - to keep the nations grounded in where they come from and their own histories. But just that - a sliver. Anything more is deserving of close inspection and whatnot, if not being dragged back to it’s better place.
Of course, with countries where religion has become toxic and dangerously zealous, then I wouldn’t be against ousting it completely.
by Baltenstein » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:51 am
by Phoenicaea » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:02 am
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:21 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:He's high on his victory over russia in the proxy war.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Dylar » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:31 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:50 am
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