Erdogan turns Ayasofya museum into a place of worship

[Phoenicaea]

i share solidarity with neighbor people, not their regents. the present ‘appeasement’ politics toward turks and egyptians rulers is a ruin.

german and italian institutions, respectively, substain hostile regimes because of short gross affairs, and so they dig theirselves in conflict.

despotic rulers not trustable, and will turn against us for sure.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The opening of Ayasofya is a blow to the Treaty of Lozan. Political Islamists have forgotten the courts of İstiklâl, but soon those who carry the sword of secularism will remind them. we will clear the ignorance from turkey

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Interesting how the Hagia Sophia has just been transformed into an exclusively Muslim place of worship and life carries on as usual, but if a single Jew so much as prays at the Temple Mount, millions of people across the Muslim world throw an epic temper-tantrum, riot, and pogrom Christians and other minorities because they are unable to accept that some of their so-called holy sites were never exclusively or originally theirs in the first place. From a religious perspective, this has always been about conquest and absolute Muslim supremacy over inferior dhimmi infidels like us. What these Muslim supremacists need to realize is that the whole world doesn't revolve around their every whim and that there are those who are prepared to resist their bullshit at all costs.

[The New California Republic]

Crowds gathered in Istanbul as the historic Hagia Sophia site opened for Friday prayers for the first time since Turkish authorities ruled it could be converted into a mosque.

Clerics in white robes sang from the Koran. Mosaics and frescoes of Jesus and Mary were draped with curtains.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53506445

Thus begins the whitewashing of the history of the Hagia Sophia...

[Aureumterra]

Interesting how the Hagia Sophia has just been transformed into an exclusively Muslim place of worship and life carries on as usual, but if a single Jew so much as prays at the Temple Mount, millions of people across the Muslim world throw an epic temper-tantrum, riot, and pogrom Christians and other minorities because they are unable to accept that some of their so-called holy sites were never exclusively or originally theirs in the first place. From a religious perspective, this has always been about conquest and absolute Muslim supremacy over inferior dhimmi infidels like us. What these Muslim supremacists need to realize is that the whole world doesn't revolve around their every whim and that there are those who are prepared to resist their bullshit at all costs.

"Do as I say, not as I do"

[Phoenicaea]

i support _Hakinda Herseyi Duimak Istiorum, if not for abruptly difficult name to copy paste.

[Novus America]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... SKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

[The Islands of Versilia]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

Here’s hoping NATO and Europe has the balls to properly punish Turkey and scare Russia off from inviting Turkey into the arms of the “Motherland”. Turkey’s been increasingly drawn towards Russia and Turkey needs to learn its place IMO.

[Adamede]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

Here’s hoping NATO and Europe has the balls to properly punish Turkey and scare Russia off from inviting Turkey into the arms of the “Motherland”. Turkey’s been increasingly drawn towards Russia and Turkey needs to learn its place IMO.

Eh, a Turkish Russian alliance would have major hurdles to over come.

Regardless, so long as NATO can use Turkey to control the Dardanelles and as such keep Russian naval power penned in the Black Sea they’re going to get a large amount of leeway.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.The plan to transform Ayasofya into a mosque is an American project (political islam) Which state making peace with the taliban in Afghanistan ?

[Novus America]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.The plan to transform Ayasofya into a mosque is an American project (political islam) Which state making peace with the taliban in Afghanistan ?

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but Trump despite all his flaws has nothing to do with this.

But he the “Blue Homeland” illegal maritime claims and the Hagia Sofia mess are all parts of Erdogan’s ultranat provocations to distract the populace from the economic problems and corruption.

And are only earning Turkey more and more enemies while driving away its friends.

[The New California Republic]

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.

You mean the illegal invasion and occupation of part of Cyprus by Turkey?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.The plan to transform Ayasofya into a mosque is an American project (political islam) Which state making peace with the taliban in Afghanistan ?

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I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but Trump despite all his flaws has nothing to do with this.

But he the “Blue Homeland” illegal maritime claims and the Hagia Sofia mess are all parts of Erdogan’s ultranat provocations to distract the populace from the economic problems and corruption.

And are only earning Turkey more and more enemies while driving away its friends.

I wish you could understand me, blue homeland with Ayasofya is not one. does not care about blue homeland and islam, erdogan thinks only of himself (you don't understand this)

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.

You mean the illegal invasion and occupation of part of Cyprus by Turkey?

Investigate the bloody Christmas massacre

[The New California Republic]

You mean the illegal invasion and occupation of part of Cyprus by Turkey?

Investigate the bloody Christmas massacre

I'm aware of it but none of which makes my statement incorrect.

[Novus America]

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, but Trump despite all his flaws has nothing to do with this.

But he the “Blue Homeland” illegal maritime claims and the Hagia Sofia mess are all parts of Erdogan’s ultranat provocations to distract the populace from the economic problems and corruption.

And are only earning Turkey more and more enemies while driving away its friends.

I wish you could understand me, blue homeland with Ayasofya is not one. does not care about blue homeland and islam, erdogan thinks only of himself (you don't understand this)

You mean the illegal invasion and occupation of part of Cyprus by Turkey?

Investigate the bloody Christmas massacre

They are both part of Erdogan’s ultranat chest thumping. Sure Erdogan only thinks of Erdogan, “Blue Homeland” and the Hagia Sofia stuff are just political posturing to distract the populace.
Sure the Islamism is to appeal to rural Islamists while the “Blue Homeland” crap appeals to the left secular nationalists as well, but that is just trying to broaden his base a bit.

Bread and circuses. But he has run out of bread so decided to dial the circus up to 11.


This is a common trend amongst authoritarian regimes. They can often make more dramatic economic interventions/reforms/domestic investments than a democratic regime.
Thus usually get a decade, maybe even two or three of significant economic growth at least on paper. And big infrastructure projects.

Unfortunately due to inability to listen to constructive criticism, corruption and cronyism, and diminishing returns from unsustainable and unbalanced debt driven investments means the growth does not keep up forever.

Bread is the promise of economic growth, circuses ultranat chest thumping and aggression.

Once the bread runs out, as it has in Turkey they dial up the circuses, becoming increasingly aggressive and reckless.

Usually the circus phase usually is near the end, and sees them implode.

[Baltenstein]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24O12E

Now France is calling on Turkey to be sanctioned by the EU for Turkey’s violation of Greek maritime zones.
Erdogan is on a roll, pissing off pretty much everyone.

Turkey is really becoming a pariah State.

We will not leave Cyprus to EOKA terrorists.The plan to transform Ayasofya into a mosque is an American project (political islam) Which state making peace with the taliban in Afghanistan ?

Why so modest? That territory is way too small, here's a map with the actual rightful Turkish homeland:

Here’s hoping NATO and Europe has the balls to properly punish Turkey and scare Russia off from inviting Turkey into the arms of the “Motherland”. Turkey’s been increasingly drawn towards Russia and Turkey needs to learn its place IMO.

The Russian-Turkish alliance that Erdogan likes to pretend is a viable alternative to the West would mostly consist of Putin bitch-slapping Erdogan into submission whenever he sees fit. Sure, Russia may throw Turkey a bone from time to time, like selling out the Kurds of Afrin or delivering the S-400 rockets, but on most gepolitical issues (Syria, Libya, Caucasus) the two are on firmly opposing sides and Russia won't hesitate to use hard power to enforce its will, against Turkey if need be.
Also, even on a personal level, Putin probably wouldn't tolerate half the brutish posturing that Erdogan likes to pull towards EU nations - here's a nice little snippet of Putin humiliating him on-camera for Russian state TV.

Bread is the promise of economic growth, circuses ultranat chest thumping and aggression.

Once the bread runs out, as it has in Turkey they dial up the circuses, becoming increasingly aggressive and reckless.

Usually the circus phase usually is near the end, and sees them implode.

Erdogan's most recent behavior reminds me somewhat of the Argentine military junta in its latter stages. He knows that should he ever lose power he and his clan would be forced to take a one-way flight to Qatar on the very same day, so I can see him pondering a Falklands sort-of scenario to avert this. Not full-scale war with Greece of course, but something like seizing the island of Kastellorizo in a swift fait accomplit action.

Ironically, increasing domesting issues and diminishing public support was also what drove the Greek military junta to try and enforce Enosis.

[Free Republic of Hong Kong]

I am muslim and this is rather an populist act.Not Islam but populist act to hold jn the power.But the opposition from Turkey is weak.No protests or riots.This means Erdogan and his AKP will stay in power for longer and making Turkey into another Russia

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

political islam is as dangerous as Megali Idea

[SatoSere]

I am muslim and this is rather an populist act.Not Islam but populist act to hold jn the power.But the opposition from Turkey is weak.No protests or riots.This means Erdogan and his AKP will stay in power for longer and making Turkey into another Russia

Same opinion from me, another Muslim. I think this was done to distract the Turkish people from the economic situation of Turkey.

[Vistulange]

I am muslim and this is rather an populist act.Not Islam but populist act to hold jn the power.But the opposition from Turkey is weak.No protests or riots.This means Erdogan and his AKP will stay in power for longer and making Turkey into another Russia

The reason there aren't protests or riots is because the Turkish public at large doesn't exactly like it when there are riots. The opposition, while it could be far, far better, is actually getting its act together. The local elections in 2018 and the re-run in Istanbul in 2019 are examples.

I am muslim and this is rather an populist act.Not Islam but populist act to hold jn the power.But the opposition from Turkey is weak.No protests or riots.This means Erdogan and his AKP will stay in power for longer and making Turkey into another Russia

Same opinion from me, another Muslim. I think this was done to distract the Turkish people from the economic situation of Turkey.

Exactly due to this, the opposition has a chance, because it simultaneously controls the country's major municipalities.

[Nuroblav]

I mean, it's Erdogan: of course he would.

Yeah if the people aren't happy about this (are they), then this probably isn't the best idea.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I am muslim and this is rather an populist act.Not Islam but populist act to hold jn the power.But the opposition from Turkey is weak.No protests or riots.This means Erdogan and his AKP will stay in power for longer and making Turkey into another Russia

The reason there aren't protests or riots is because the Turkish public at large doesn't exactly like it when there are riots. The opposition, while it could be far, far better, is actually getting its act together. The local elections in 2018 and the re-run in Istanbul in 2019 are examples.

Same opinion from me, another Muslim. I think this was done to distract the Turkish people from the economic situation of Turkey.

Exactly due to this, the opposition has a chance, because it simultaneously controls the country's major municipalities.

What will happen if political Islam wins in the 2023 elections ? Atatürk's soldiers must be on the streets in 2023

[Fortisinunum]

A museum into a place of worship? Oh no

[SatoSere]

The reason there aren't protests or riots is because the Turkish public at large doesn't exactly like it when there are riots. The opposition, while it could be far, far better, is actually getting its act together. The local elections in 2018 and the re-run in Istanbul in 2019 are examples.

Exactly due to this, the opposition has a chance, because it simultaneously controls the country's major municipalities.

What will happen if political Islam wins in the 2023 elections ? Atatürk's soldiers must be on the streets in 2023

It was a move from Erdogan to appease the Muslims but I think so far it failed. Our brethren won't get scammed by this populist move, lol

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Scary thoughts come to my mind. What happens if they try to turn the Göbeklitepe into a mosque ?