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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:54 am

Trump says "I think she’d be a fine choice. Kamala Harris. A fine choice" as for Biden running mate.

And that's a sign not to pick Harris.

United States of Devonta wrote:It also shows polling might be more accurate then in 2016. Polling had Trump down in MI and the rest of the Rust Belt in 2016, but he kept campaigning there. Most likely, Trumps internals probably showed a much closer race. Now his internals probably look like the state averages and he might be giving up.


Polling is more accurate due to some pollsters adjusting correctly and there being less undecided voters but, some pollsters, particularly State Polls, haven't still fully adjusted yet though Biden's 8 point average margin would likely mask that.

San Lumen wrote:I have a hard time seeing how he wins Nevada. Clark county leans blue and Washoe is trending that way. Together it’s 85 percent of the population.


I agree: I don't see Trump taking Nevada, not with its growing Hispanic Population and strong union membership there. It was only a 2 point difference the last time but I suspect it'll be somewhere between 4-6 point difference this time, in Biden's favor.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:55 am

Zurkerx wrote:Trump says "I think she’d be a fine choice. Kamala Harris. A fine choice" as for Biden running mate.

And that's a sign not to pick Harris.

United States of Devonta wrote:It also shows polling might be more accurate then in 2016. Polling had Trump down in MI and the rest of the Rust Belt in 2016, but he kept campaigning there. Most likely, Trumps internals probably showed a much closer race. Now his internals probably look like the state averages and he might be giving up.


Polling is more accurate due to some pollsters adjusting correctly and there being less undecided voters but, some pollsters, particularly State Polls, haven't still fully adjusted yet though Biden's 8 point average margin would likely mask that.

San Lumen wrote:I have a hard time seeing how he wins Nevada. Clark county leans blue and Washoe is trending that way. Together it’s 85 percent of the population.


I agree: I don't see Trump taking Nevada, not with its growing Hispanic Population and strong union membership there. It was only a 2 point difference the last time but I suspect it'll be somewhere between 4-6 point difference this time, in Biden's favor.

Lets not forgot Trump said he would love to run against Biden saying he'd beat him easily. Polling isn't showing that nor is history on Trump's side.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Trump says "I think she’d be a fine choice. Kamala Harris. A fine choice" as for Biden running mate.

And that's a sign not to pick Harris.



Polling is more accurate due to some pollsters adjusting correctly and there being less undecided voters but, some pollsters, particularly State Polls, haven't still fully adjusted yet though Biden's 8 point average margin would likely mask that.



I agree: I don't see Trump taking Nevada, not with its growing Hispanic Population and strong union membership there. It was only a 2 point difference the last time but I suspect it'll be somewhere between 4-6 point difference this time, in Biden's favor.

Lets not forgot Trump said he would love to run against Biden saying he'd beat him easily. Polling isn't showing that nor is history on Trump's side.


Sure, I guess, Trump probably assumed Biden would be one of the easiest to best, but at this stage in the game, even John Delaney of all people could be crushing it in the polls.

Harris, really, is still a bad choice in that she alienates many parts of the base, as well as many right-leaning independents who are considering Biden. Overall, a bad pick in terms of adding votes to the ticket.

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Postby Ngelmish » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:00 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Lets not forgot Trump said he would love to run against Biden saying he'd beat him easily. Polling isn't showing that nor is history on Trump's side.


Sure, I guess, Trump probably assumed Biden would be one of the easiest to best, but at this stage in the game, even John Delaney of all people could be crushing it in the polls.

Harris, really, is still a bad choice in that she alienates many parts of the base, as well as many right-leaning independents who are considering Biden. Overall, a bad pick in terms of adding votes to the ticket.


Delaney was unironically the worst candidate, even when Tim Ryan was still on the stage.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:02 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Sure, I guess, Trump probably assumed Biden would be one of the easiest to best, but at this stage in the game, even John Delaney of all people could be crushing it in the polls.

Harris, really, is still a bad choice in that she alienates many parts of the base, as well as many right-leaning independents who are considering Biden. Overall, a bad pick in terms of adding votes to the ticket.


Delaney was unironically the worst candidate, even when Tim Ryan was still on the stage.


I forgot about Tim Ryan - poor guy, seems friendly enough but just not all that bright.

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Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:21 pm

SCOTUS sides with Florida, 6-3 in felon voting rights case.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:36 pm

Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.
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"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:51 pm

Kowani wrote:SCOTUS sides with Florida, 6-3 in felon voting rights case.


Interesting, Breyer sided with the majority on this issue. Well then, it looks like the only way Democrats can change that is to take the majority back when the State's Legislature is up- or if the Federal Government under a Biden Administration passes legislation overriding States that are harsh on voting. As long as Robert type Conservatives are on the court, I suspect they'll continue to endorse stronger voting restrictions, like IDs and such.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:35 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"


"Just chilling, with Che Guevara."

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:37 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"


It's funny in a stupid way.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"


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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:40 pm

In what can only be described as an act of sheer karma Republican fuckface Louie Gohmert (who I brought up before on this thread) has contracted Covid-19, the lawmaker claims he got it 'from his mask'.

https://www.facebook.com/AmericansVsFas ... 5578581465

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Postby Blargoblarg » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:50 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Neoliberal corporate Democrats like to pretend they're leftists, when by the rest of the world's standards they're actually center-right.
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Postby Mirjt » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:54 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Neoliberal corporate Democrats like to pretend they're leftists, when by the rest of the world's standards they're actually center-right.


Unfortunately they, along with the Republicans, have convinced a lot of the American people that they are the leftists and that you cannot go further left.

America's political spectrum is so stunted and so skewed towards the right.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

What? That's famous liberal Marxist Chellary Clevara
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Might this be an anti Hillary shirt?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:20 pm

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2020/07/ ... ire-fraud/

Getting a little down in the weeds but state Senator Katrina Robinson in Tennessee has been charged with theft, embezzlement involving government programs and wire fraud. Only even number district are up for election this year in the Senate therefore she is not up for reelection. Given her likely resignation there will probably be a special election in November possibly earlier depending on what the law is

The 33rd district is entirely within Memphis and contains the airport therefore Democrats are almost guaranteed of holing this seat.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:33 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Might this be an anti Hillary shirt?

I honestly couldn't tell who this shirt was supposed to be for.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:05 pm

https://apnews.com/d1f5472f2a8d2b672531c59f77283972

Kanye West will likely fail to get on the ballot in New Jersey as many of his signatures are likely fraudulent

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:06 pm

Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Imagine thinking associating with Che Guevara is a good thing
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:13 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Imagine thinking associating with Che Guevara is a good thing

Kind of feel like that shirt is for all those conservative 'cut ups' who wear other shirts that try and tie Hillary Clinton to 'cooooomuuuunism. The actual venn diagram of 'people who like Hilary Clinton' and 'people who like Che Guevara' doesn't really have as much cross over as hacky conservatives like to think. After all, the complaint wasn't that Hillary was too communist from the people who were upset she beat Bernie.
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Postby Ngelmish » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:26 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Stumbled upon this on my FB wall and I nearly vomited.


"Hello there fellow leftists I am also a leftist, look at my African scarf see!"

Neoliberal corporate Democrats like to pretend they're leftists, when by the rest of the world's standards they're actually center-right.


People who like to claim they're for universal healthcare like to pretend that the Clinton's didn't try to pass universal healthcare too, it's strange.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:28 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Neoliberal corporate Democrats like to pretend they're leftists, when by the rest of the world's standards they're actually center-right.


People who like to claim they're for universal healthcare like to pretend that the Clinton's didn't try to pass universal healthcare too, it's strange.

I don’t think Hillary Clinton designed this shirt.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:29 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Neoliberal corporate Democrats like to pretend they're leftists, when by the rest of the world's standards they're actually center-right.


People who like to claim they're for universal healthcare like to pretend that the Clinton's didn't try to pass universal healthcare too, it's strange.

I don’t think Hillary Clinton designed this shirt.
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Postby Ngelmish » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:39 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Ngelmish wrote:
People who like to claim they're for universal healthcare like to pretend that the Clinton's didn't try to pass universal healthcare too, it's strange.

I don’t think Hillary Clinton designed this shirt.


Good editorial judgment, whatdy'a know

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