2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Ifreann]

Remember, nothing says "Democracy" like trying to ban your major opposition party in order to make a point.

The Democrats should definitely let this pass. Hell, they should run with it. Actually changing the party name might not fly, but they should call Gohmert's bluff, say he makes a good point and do something to show that they want to formally break from the party's racist history.

[Cisairse]

At this rate I'd vote for Trump*; not because I'm a fan of him (I'm not) but instead because the sheer concentrated schadenfreude if BLM/SJW types will be too tempting to ignore.

*if I could vote in America..

Supporting the deaths of people to own the libs people protesting for racial equality.

Nice.

[Slavakino]

At this rate I'd vote for Trump*; not because I'm a fan of him (I'm not) but instead because the sheer concentrated schadenfreude if BLM/SJW types will be too tempting to ignore.

*if I could vote in America..

Supporting the deaths of people to own the libs people protesting for racial equality.

Nice.

Liberals, Neo-Libs and Libertarians have ruined the earth. Ever since the end of the cold war, the earth has gotten worse

[United States of Devonta]

Supporting the deaths of people to own the libs people protesting for racial equality.

Nice.

Liberals, Neo-Libs and Libertarians have ruined the earth. Ever since the end of the cold war, the earth has gotten worse

You are unironically advocating for killing political opponents

[Slavakino]

Liberals, Neo-Libs and Libertarians have ruined the earth. Ever since the end of the cold war, the earth has gotten worse

You are unironically advocating for killing political opponents

Never said to kill em mate. Don't put words in my mouth. I said these people have ruined the earth

[Mushet]

Remember, nothing says "Democracy" like trying to ban your major opposition party in order to make a point.

Can we ban the Republicans too while we're at it?

[SD_Film Artists]

At this rate I'd vote for Trump*; not because I'm a fan of him (I'm not) but instead because the sheer concentrated schadenfreude if BLM/SJW types will be too tempting to ignore.

*if I could vote in America..

Supporting the deaths of people to own the libs people protesting for racial equality.

Nice.

If only they were that innocent. (Also not supporting deaths)

I'd support BLM if it was really about equality, but it's far from that.

[No State Here]

It does though. Yes, some might have economic anxiety about immigrants, but allot of that turns into hate, jealousy, and racism. It is very possible for someone to be worried about their job (even if irrational) and be racist at the same time. These things arn't mutually exclusive.

So yes, Xenophobic parties in the past have been very racist. Anyone with a basic knowledge of anti-immigration parties in the 1800s and 1920s knows this. Even now. Trump did start his campaign by calling most Mexicans rapist and murders, all be it a few good ones.

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

[Slavakino]

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

This

[Cisairse]

Supporting the deaths of people to own the libs people protesting for racial equality.

Nice.

If only they were that innocent. (Also not supporting deaths)

I'd support BLM if it was really about equality, but it's far from that.

It really is, and, yes, by supporting Trump you are supporting deaths.

[Cisairse]

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Considering this issues are only ever brought up by white people when trying to deflect from discussions about systemic racism, yes, you can generally safely say that non-blacks bringing up those issues are racist.

[United States of Devonta]

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

We do. It's called addressing poverty. Poverty is in direct correlation with crime. Oh ending the war on drugs, etc, etc. Just pay attention.

Yes, if you see a cop crush a black mans neck under his knee and then spam "13/50" you arn't going to have a good reaction.

[United States of Devonta]

You are unironically advocating for killing political opponents

Never said to kill em mate. Don't put words in my mouth. I said these people have ruined the earth

The post you quoted was about killing political dissidents, in particular, Neo-libs.

You then stated they were evil and destroying the earth. I can easily make the conclusion you were justifying the statement.

[Kowani]

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Well.
Yes, but no. Those are legitimate problems, but they are often brought up by one of three types of people. 1: Racists who want to obfuscate from the policies the country has taken that cause those outcomes.
2: Individualists who want to obfuscate from the policies the country has taken that cause those outcomes.
3: People who actually care about the community.
Typically, you can tell the three apart by when they bring it up and how they treat it. If the only time they talk about these things is when the conversation is on racism or discrimination, then you can assume they’re either in one of the one of the first two groups.
It’s kinda like how the Men’s Rights movement has very legitimate grievances, but if the only time y’bring them up is when people are talking about feminism, it’s not hard to conclude you just don’t like women’s rights.

[Slavakino]

Never said to kill em mate. Don't put words in my mouth. I said these people have ruined the earth

The post you quoted was about killing political dissidents, in particular, Neo-libs.

You then stated they were evil and destroying the earth. I can easily make the conclusion you were justifying the statement.

Well I'm not, there's you're answer

[United States of Devonta]

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Well.
Yes, but no. Those are legitimate problems, but they are often brought up by one of three types of people. 1: Racists who want to obfuscate from the policies the country has taken that cause those outcomes.
2: Individualists who want to obfuscate from the policies the country has taken that cause those outcomes.
3: People who actually care about the community.
Typically, you can tell the three apart by when they bring it up and how they treat it. If the only time they talk about these things is when the conversation is on racism or discrimination, then you can assume they’re either in one of the one of the first two groups.
It’s kinda like how the Men’s Rights movement has very legitimate grievances, but if the only time y’bring them up is when people are talking about feminism, it’s not hard to conclude you just don’t like women’s rights.

Exactly.

[United States of Devonta]

The post you quoted was about killing political dissidents, in particular, Neo-libs.

You then stated they were evil and destroying the earth. I can easily make the conclusion you were justifying the statement.

Well I'm not, there's you're answer

Doubt it.

It wouldn't be out of character for you.

[Slavakino]

Well I'm not, there's you're answer

Doubt it.

It wouldn't be out of character for you.

I'm no revolutionary, I prefer reform. I'm a pacifist until I get hit. Neo-Libs need to just fuck off

[United States of Devonta]

Doubt it.

It wouldn't be out of character for you.

I'm no revolutionary, I prefer reform. I'm a pacifist until I get hit. Neo-Libs need to just fuck off

Iv'e seen your post on the George Floyd protest forum and you are no pacifist. You're an authoritarian.

Pacifism requires a light hand. This is impossible for authoritarians. You only offer a swift boot to the throats of the people.

[Jerzylvania]

That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.

And the fall of the USA

Sure, the strong breeze from the national exhalation could blow your map of the US off the wall. Better use more glue.

[Aureumterra]

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Not exactly, I was referring to tagging anything remotely anti-immigration as Xenophobia, which ignores the actual concerns brought up by anti-immigration politicians, such as the mass outsourcing of jobs. This, in turn, causes more anger, and makes more people actually xenophobic

[Valrifell]

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Not exactly, I was referring to tagging anything remotely anti-immigration as Xenophobia, which ignores the actual concerns brought up by anti-immigration politicians, such as the mass outsourcing of jobs. This, in turn, causes more anger, and makes more people actually xenophobic

Outsourcing and immigration are two near completely unrelated issues, though.

[Aureumterra]

Not exactly, I was referring to tagging anything remotely anti-immigration as Xenophobia, which ignores the actual concerns brought up by anti-immigration politicians, such as the mass outsourcing of jobs. This, in turn, causes more anger, and makes more people actually xenophobic

Outsourcing and immigration are two near completely unrelated issues, though.

You know how H1-B visas work, right? Also, I forgot to mention immigrants willing to work for less, turning large corporations to replace locals for profit, although that’s more of a European issue than an American one

[Kowani]

It’s similar to people crying Racism whenever someone brings up legitimate issues with the black community, such as the disproportionate lack of fathers and disproportionately high single parent households, as well as the crime rate. These are problems we need to deal with, not ignore

Not exactly, I was referring to tagging anything remotely anti-immigration as Xenophobia, which ignores the actual concerns brought up by anti-immigration politicians, such as the mass outsourcing of jobs. This, in turn, causes more anger, and makes more people actually xenophobic

…You realize that outsourcing of jobs and immigration aren’t actually related, right? Yeah, they’re both helped along by large corporations, but outsourcing jobs just means sending them outside the country, and it’s hard to do square that one with people coming in. Anti-immigrant belief, however, does seem to be based on xenophobia, even if it’s more of a lack of understanding on how immigration and the economy interact.

[Cisairse]

Outsourcing and immigration are two near completely unrelated issues, though.

You know how H1-B visas work, right? Also, I forgot to mention immigrants willing to work for less, turning large corporations to replace locals for profit, although that’s more of a European issue than an American one

H1-B visas aren't used for outsourcing wtf