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Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:26 am**

Kannap wrote:
Slavakino wrote:I wouldn't call the Southern Strategy racist. I call it an efficient, yet corrupt way of winning

They capitalized on southern opposition to the Civil Rights Act and utilized racism against African Americans as a tool to win white voters. This turned a wide number of usually Democrat winning states into Republican states

But no, let's not call that racist.

Yeah, corruption.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:26 am**

Kannap wrote:
Slavakino wrote:I wouldn't call the Southern Strategy racist. I call it an efficient, yet corrupt way of winning

They capitalized on southern opposition to the Civil Rights Act and utilized racism against African Americans as a tool to win white voters. This turned a wide number of usually Democrat winning states into Republican states

But no, let's not call that racist.

So they weaponized racism to get votes? And effectively suppressed minority voting turnout with Voter ID laws and closing polling places across minority districts. Sounds pretty damn racist too.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:27 am**

Slavakino wrote:
Kannap wrote:
They capitalized on southern opposition to the Civil Rights Act and utilized racism against African Americans as a tool to win white voters. This turned a wide number of usually Democrat winning states into Republican states

But no, let's not call that racist.

Yeah, corruption.

Racism is corrupt, I'm glad we agree.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:27 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slavakino wrote:I wouldn't call the Southern Strategy racist. I call it an efficient, yet corrupt way of winning

Lol.

This is the guy who casually uses "Jew" and "Nigger" as swear words and insults.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:27 am**

Slavakino wrote:
Kannap wrote:
They capitalized on southern opposition to the Civil Rights Act and utilized racism against African Americans as a tool to win white voters. This turned a wide number of usually Democrat winning states into Republican states

But no, let's not call that racist.

Yeah, corruption.

It's almost like corruption and racism can be intertwined.

Gosh reasoning with you is like the Patrick meme.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:28 am**

Gormwood wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Lol.

This is the guy who casually uses "Jew" and "Nigger" as swear words and insults.

Ouch. Tbf I don't think he's arguing in good faith.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:30 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Gormwood wrote:This is the guy who casually uses "Jew" and "Nigger" as swear words and insults.

Ouch. Tbf I don't think he's arguing in good faith.

Announcing that you're just going to ignore people who provide evidence against your arguments for "bullshitting" is usually a clue there.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:31 am**

Vassenor wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Ouch. Tbf I don't think he's arguing in good faith.

Announcing that you're just going to ignore people who provide evidence against your arguments for "bullshitting" is usually a clue there.

I seen that. Sad little authoritarians.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:31 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Yeah, corruption.

It's almost like corruption and racism can be intertwined.

Gosh reasoning with you is like the Patrick meme.

Not really. Patrick actually has moments of ironic introspection.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:34 am**

Kannap wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Susan Rice, Perhaps An Unlikely Contender, Lands On Biden's VP Shortlist. This is a continuation of NPR's series on Biden's VP choices.

Rice certainly has the foreign policy experience but lacks being an elected candidate for a political office. But she wouldn't be the worst choice though her domestic policy views remain somewhat unknown.

I'm getting impatient, he should just pick somebody already

While I can understand the impatience, picking a VP isn't easy. Given he served the position, he knows what to expect so I don't mind him taking a bit longer. After all, Obama announced Biden as his pick on August 22nd of 2008.

Vassenor wrote:Remember, nothing says "Democracy" like trying to ban your major opposition party in order to make a point.

Yeah, this will fail instantly.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:37 am**

Vassenor wrote:Remember, nothing says "Democracy" like trying to ban your major opposition party in order to make a point.

It's Gohmert. That is all. Of course even if he was someone with actual intelligence, ignoring the Southern Strategy or Trump's Very Fine People on Both Sides speech in a disingenuous effort to protect Confederate monuments is rather unsurprising.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:40 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Yeah, corruption.

It's almost like corruption and racism can be intertwined.

Gosh reasoning with you is like the Patrick meme.

I doubt Republicans are actually racist. I can see them using this method to win but I can see that they are either disgusted or don't care because corruption

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:40 am**

Trump Trails Biden In Fox News Poll

This should be the part where Donnie divorces FOXNews and marries latest mistress OANN.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:40 am**

Gormwood wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
It's almost like corruption and racism can be intertwined.

Gosh reasoning with you is like the Patrick meme.

Not really. Patrick actually has moments of ironic introspection.

>2019 Spongebob
Absolute cringe

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:41 am**

Gormwood wrote:Trump Trails Biden In Fox News Poll

This should be the part where Donnie divorces FOXNews and marries latest mistress OANN.

Never trust these damn polls anymore because it was predicted Labor would win but instead got bumraped by the Liberals

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:45 am**

Slavakino wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Trump Trails Biden In Fox News Poll

This should be the part where Donnie divorces FOXNews and marries latest mistress OANN.

Never trust these damn polls anymore because it was predicted Labor would win but instead got bumraped by the Liberals

Polls have been accurate all be it a few elections? Over reaction much?

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:48 am**

So

Why did Trump cancel the RNC

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:48 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Never trust these damn polls anymore because it was predicted Labor would win but instead got bumraped by the Liberals

Polls have been accurate all be it a few elections? Over reaction much?

Just in denial of anything that makes The Donald look even more bad than he does to himself.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:49 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Never trust these damn polls anymore because it was predicted Labor would win but instead got bumraped by the Liberals

Polls have been accurate all be it a few elections? Over reaction much?

I was excited for an actual good leadership here, but I get fucked instead

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:49 am**

Cisairse wrote:So

Why did Trump cancel the RNC

His advisers' insistence of "DON'T KILL THE OLD VOTERS!!" finally registered.

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:50 am**

Slavakino wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Polls have been accurate all be it a few elections? Over reaction much?

I was excited for an actual good leadership here, but I get fucked instead

If this is any hint as to what you'd consider "actual good leadership"...

Slavakino wrote:Nah. I'd rather be in Putin's cabinet as Minister of Energy

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:54 am**

Gormwood wrote:
Slavakino wrote:I was excited for an actual good leadership here, but I get fucked instead

If this is any hint as to what you'd consider "actual good leadership"...

Slavakino wrote:Nah. I'd rather be in Putin's cabinet as Minister of Energy

Putin is a good leader and a good man. I support dictators and oligarchies as long as they are efficient and work. Democracy has failed and is full of the same people with different faces

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:55 am**

Ifreann wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:"Xenophobia" as in anti-immigration? Because that doesn’t imply that the people voting for it are automatically racist or xenophobes, many people are afraid of losing jobs to immigrants who can be payed less. It’s downright dishonest to say that everyone who votes for an anti-immigration platform is a xenophobe.

Source? Numbers, statistics, something? I highly doubt there are enough racists in the US to support a political party for decades, because if that was the case, George Wallace would have won without trouble in the South

Do I really need to give you evidence for the existence of the Southern Strategy? Or are you just pretending not to be aware of it to waste my time?

I was asking for statistics to prove that, in 2020, the Republican party is surviving purely on the votes of racists, or something along those lines, as you have suggested

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:56 am**

United States of Devonta wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:"Xenophobia" as in anti-immigration? Because that doesn’t imply that the people voting for it are automatically racist or xenophobes, many people are afraid of losing jobs to immigrants who can be payed less. It’s downright dishonest to say that everyone who votes for an anti-immigration platform is a xenophobe.

Source? Numbers, statistics, something? I highly doubt there are enough racists in the US to support a political party for decades, because if that was the case, George Wallace would have won without trouble in the South

It does though. Yes, some might have economic anxiety about immigrants, but allot of that turns into hate, jealousy, and racism. It is very possible for someone to be worried about their job (even if irrational) and be racist at the same time. These things arn't mutually exclusive.

So yes, Xenophobic parties in the past have been very racist. Anyone with a basic knowledge of anti-immigration parties in the 1800s and 1920s knows this. Even now. Trump did start his campaign by calling most Mexicans rapist and murders, all be it a few good ones.

While there is often overlap, crying "Xenophobia" whenever anti immigration platforms arise discredits the actual concerns brought up, such as the replacement and outsourcing of jobs by large companies, which largely are a contributing factor to turning people xenophobic, as you yourself have said

Posted: **Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:57 am**

At this rate I'd vote for Trump*; not because I'm a fan of him (I'm not) but instead because the sheer concentrated schadenfreude towards BLM/SJW types will be too tempting to ignore.

*if I could vote in America..

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