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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:59 am

Cisairse wrote:wait hold on what the fuck

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George W Bush wasn't elected in 1988, he was elected in 2000, are you ok

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:06 am

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07 ... ahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:10 am

San Lumen wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/kanye-west-is-officially-on-the-ballot-in-oklahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference


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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:11 am

San Lumen wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/kanye-west-is-officially-on-the-ballot-in-oklahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference

If anyone can become president by just winning Oklahoma, it's probably not Kanye sadly
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:12 am

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/kanye-west-is-officially-on-the-ballot-in-oklahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference


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That would be hilarious if that happened

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:17 am

San Lumen wrote:

That would be hilarious if that happened


Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:22 am

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That would be hilarious if that happened


Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.

Deciding the country's policies based on untreated bipolar swings. Better than what we have now I suppose.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:23 am

Gormwood wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.

Deciding the country's policies based on untreated bipolar swings. Better than what we have now I suppose.

honestly about the same as what we have now, if you take the 10-year rolling average of the United States
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:24 am

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That would be hilarious if that happened


Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.

Yeah Trump supporters go out and burn buildings, businesses, and trash cars when Democrats win, totally
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:25 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.

Yeah Trump supporters go out and burn buildings, businesses, and trash cars when Democrats win, totally

I mean they did that in 2016 and Trump didn't even lose
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:27 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Ye's Path to the Presidency: Kanye, seeing the rabid anti-Trump sentiment on one hand and the anti-Biden sentiment on the other, successfully manages to sell himself as a unifying and compromise candidate (as well as the only option to avoid riots across the country). He is confirmed by the House unanimously. He only receives ~500,000 votes.

Yeah Trump supporters go out and burn buildings, businesses, and trash cars when Democrats win, totally


Were you like, not here, in 2008 and 2012.

Also it's absolute bonkers that you got offended at what is obviously a joke post about Kanye West winning the presidency.
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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:31 am

The Tea Party was unironically the best protest movement. Imagine leaving an area cleaner than you found it
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:48 am

San Lumen wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/kanye-west-is-officially-on-the-ballot-in-oklahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference

Considering that he’s already dropped out it definitely wont
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:53 am

https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/sta ... 72355?s=20

Biden leads by five in new Arizona poll. The state is looking increasingly lean D at this point

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Postby Cisairse » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:03 am

270towin's Polling map now puts FL in Lean Dem, previously Toss-Up
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:04 am

Cisairse wrote:270towin's Polling map now puts FL in Lean Dem, previously Toss-Up

If Biden wins Florida , Trump is done
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:06 am

Cisairse wrote:270towin's Polling map now puts FL in Lean Dem, previously Toss-Up

Time to deploy the Hanging Chads!
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:13 am

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:270towin's Polling map now puts FL in Lean Dem, previously Toss-Up

Time to deploy the Hanging Chads!

Release the Chads!!!! *says in Zeus’s voice

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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:17 am

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/kanye-west-is-officially-on-the-ballot-in-oklahoma.html

Kanye West is officially on the ballot in Oklahoma but i doubt it will make much difference


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You left out NE 2 as a tossup.

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Postby Asle Leopolka » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:27 am

Has anyone been able to identify a consistent source that predicts voter turnout? I've only found ad-hoc survey analyses of those who didn't vote, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has been able to predict voter turnout for each state. I believe 538 uses VT as one of their prediction variables, but I'd love to see the numbers.

I'm still very bearish on all these battleground/traditionally red states "leaning D." It's one thing to say you support Biden over Trump, but it's a hollow statement if you don't vote. I hope I'm wrong, but I still think Trump will have an edge as long as the core GOP demographic stays in his camp while Biden courts the traditionally non-voting blocs.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:32 am

Cisairse wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Yeah Trump supporters go out and burn buildings, businesses, and trash cars when Democrats win, totally

I mean they did that in 2016 and Trump didn't even lose

Remember?

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They held signs that read "Trump Makes America Hate" and chanted "hey, hey, ho, ho Donald Trump has got to go." and "Impeach Trump."

'Not my president:' Trump denounced in protests across America

A day after Donald Trump's election to the presidency, campaign divisions appeared to widen as many thousands of demonstrators — some with signs with messages declaring "NOT MY PRESIDENT" — flooded streets across the country to protest his surprise triumph.

From New England to heartland cities like Kansas City and along the West Coast, demonstrators bore flags and effigies of the president-elect, disrupting traffic and declaring that they refused to accept Trump's victory.

Flames lit up the night sky in California cities Wednesday as thousands of protesters burned a giant papier-mache Trump head in Los Angeles and started fires in Oakland intersections.

Los Angeles demonstrators also beat a Trump piñata and sprayed the Los Angeles Times building and news vans with anti-Trump profanity. One protester outside LA City Hall read a sign that simply said "this is very bad."

Late in the evening several hundred people blocked one of the city's busiest freeways, U.S. 101 between downtown and Hollywood.

In Oakland, several thousand people gathered in Frank Ogawa Palaza, police said, clogging intersections and freeway on-ramps.

In Chicago, where thousands had recently poured into the streets to celebrate the Chicago Cubs' first World Series victory in over a century, several thousand people marched through the Loop. They gathered outside Trump Tower, chanting "Not my president!"

Chicago resident Michael Burke said he believes the president-elect will "divide the country and stir up hatred." He added there was a constitutional duty not to accept that outcome.

A similar protest in Manhattan drew about 1,000 people. Outside Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in midtown, police installed barricades to keep the demonstrators at bay.

Hundreds of protesters gathered near Philadelphia's City Hall despite chilly, wet weather. Participants — who included both supporters of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who lost to Clinton in the primary — expressed anger at both Republicans and Democrats over the election's outcome.

In Boston, thousands of anti-Trump protesters streamed through downtown, chanting "Trump's a racist" and carrying signs that said "Impeach Trump" and "Abolish Electoral College." Clinton appears to be on pace to win the popular vote, despite losing the electoral count that decides the presidential race.

The protesters gathered on Boston Common before marching toward the Massachusetts Statehouse, with beefed-up security including extra police officers.

A protest that began at the Minnesota State Capitol Tuesday night with about 100 people swelled at is moved into downtown St. Paul, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported. Protesters blocked downtown streets and traveled west on University Avenue where they shouted expletives about Trump in English and Spanish.

There were other Midwest protest marches in Omaha, Nebraska, and Kansas City, Missouri.

Marchers protesting Trump's election chanted and carried signs in front of the Trump International
Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Media outlets broadcast video Wednesday night showing a peaceful crowd in front of the new downtown hotel. Many chanted "No racist USA, no Trump, no KKK."

Another group stood outside the White House. They held candles, listened to speeches and sang songs.

Dallas activists gathered by the dozens outside the city's sports arena, the American Airlines Center.

In Oregon, dozens of people blocked traffic in downtown Portland, burned American flags and forced a delay for trains on two light-rail lines.

Hundreds massed in downtown Seattle streets.

Many held anti-Trump and Black Lives Matter signs and chanted slogans, including "Misogyny has to go," and "The people united, will never be defeated."

Five people were shot and injured in an area near the protest, but police said the shootings and the demonstration were unrelated.

Back in New York, several groups of protesters caused massive gridlock as police mobilized to contain them under a light rain.

They held signs that read "Trump Makes America Hate" and chanted "hey, hey, ho, ho Donald Trump has got to go." and "Impeach Trump."
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:41 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:Has anyone been able to identify a consistent source that predicts voter turnout? I've only found ad-hoc survey analyses of those who didn't vote, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has been able to predict voter turnout for each state. I believe 538 uses VT as one of their prediction variables, but I'd love to see the numbers.

I'm still very bearish on all these battleground/traditionally red states "leaning D." It's one thing to say you support Biden over Trump, but it's a hollow statement if you don't vote. I hope I'm wrong, but I still think Trump will have an edge as long as the core GOP demographic stays in his camp while Biden courts the traditionally non-voting blocs.

Trumps base is not enough to win

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Postby No State Here » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Has anyone been able to identify a consistent source that predicts voter turnout? I've only found ad-hoc survey analyses of those who didn't vote, but to the best of my knowledge nobody has been able to predict voter turnout for each state. I believe 538 uses VT as one of their prediction variables, but I'd love to see the numbers.

I'm still very bearish on all these battleground/traditionally red states "leaning D." It's one thing to say you support Biden over Trump, but it's a hollow statement if you don't vote. I hope I'm wrong, but I still think Trump will have an edge as long as the core GOP demographic stays in his camp while Biden courts the traditionally non-voting blocs.

Trumps base is not enough to win

It was four years ago. Barely anyone defects from it. Biden needs to get turnout high, he’s not very charismatic though, so that may be a job for his veep candidate
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:46 am

No State Here wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Trumps base is not enough to win

It was four years ago. Barely anyone defects from it. Biden needs to get turnout high, he’s not very charismatic though, so that may be a job for his veep candidate

Hence why he needs a good VP. My money is on Harris, Demings or Rice. Bass is a potential dark horse though
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San Lumen wrote:
No State Here wrote:It was four years ago. Barely anyone defects from it. Biden needs to get turnout high, he’s not very charismatic though, so that may be a job for his veep candidate

Hence why he needs a good VP. My money is on Harris, Demings or Rice

I will be disgusted if he picks Kamala Harris
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