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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:02 pm

Cisairse wrote:
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Elon would be our first African-American vice president.

Elon isn't ethnically African-American


It's a joke.

Some of us noticed that in the UK they distinguish between "White African" Britons and "Black African" Britons (the "Britons" part is sometimes left off, a bit racist imo). It's quite valid there, as they have a lot of white immigrants from South Africa and from Zimbabwe. The US however doesn't make that distinction, maybe for racist reasons or maybe because there aren't enough white immigrants from Africa to make a fuss about it. Lacking the demonym "White African-Americans" those people can technically be called African-Americans. I don't like the term myself, I think the US should use descriptive terms like "black" for race, instead of harking back many generations for where everyone "came from". But I'll use it if African-Americans choose the term.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:25 pm

Holy whoa Kanye is actually doing it
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:44 pm

Kanye might want to think this over if he's doing it as a pure publicity stunt. Look what happened the last time someone ran as a stunt.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:36 am

What's the odds that he thinks saying he's doing it on twitter is all he thinks he needs to do to be on the ballot?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:37 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:What's the odds that he thinks saying he's doing it on twitter is all he thinks he needs to do to be on the ballot?


Wouldn't surprise me.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:58 am

Gormwood wrote:Kanye might want to think this over if he's doing it as a pure publicity stunt. Look what happened the last time someone ran as a stunt.


Are you referring to the beloved Tiger King ?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:31 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Kanye might want to think this over if he's doing it as a pure publicity stunt. Look what happened the last time someone ran as a stunt.


Are you referring to the beloved Tiger King ?

Is he going to put out a hit on Taylor Swift?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:50 am

Kargintina the Third wrote:https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112?s=20

For anyone who thinks I’m joking
Of course Elon Musk is the top response. Why wouldnt it be.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:36 am

Kanye Is polling to take 15% of the vote primarily from from African American voters.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:40 am

Greed and Death wrote:Kanye Is polling to take 15% of the vote primarily from from African American voters.


So he is increasing Trumps chances for a second term ? Or is he taking away Trumps black magas ?

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The Alma Mater wrote:
Are you referring to the beloved Tiger King ?

Is he going to put out a hit on Taylor Swift?


And reintroduce slavery. After all, that was a choice according to him ;)
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:55 am

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Kargintina the Third wrote:https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112?s=20

For anyone who thinks I’m joking
Of course Elon Musk is the top response. Why wouldnt it be.


West/Musk does have a certain ring to it.

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Musk up to the sky!
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:30 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Of course Elon Musk is the top response. Why wouldnt it be.


West/Musk does have a certain ring to it.

West will likely die.
Musk up to the sky!


So, we return to the age old question:

Why do only silly people want to be president of the USA ?
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:38 am

It's not even worth entertaining a Kanye Candidacy, especially when he has little time to meet the stringent signature requirements in some States. Just let it go.

Anyway, onto a more serious topic: Susan Rice sees her stock rise in Biden VP race. I'm don't view her as the best choice: there are certainly better choices though her personal chemistry with Biden and her experience in foreign policy do stand out. The Benghazi stuff is also concerning but she has been attacked on the stuff for 8 years so it's expected she can counter the GOP's baseless attacks on her, at least, the ones that are baseless.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:38 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
West/Musk does have a certain ring to it.

West will likely die.
Musk up to the sky!


So, we return to the age old question:

Why do only silly people want to be president of the USA ?


Well there was Ross Perot. He only looked silly.
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Postby No State Here » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:38 am

If Jo wasn’t running I would’ve unironically voted for Kanye.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:47 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
So, we return to the age old question:

Why do only silly people want to be president of the USA ?


Well there was Ross Perot. He only looked silly.

Vermin Supreme has him beat there.
And yet - and this is the scary part - his ideas are less silly than those of the people who actually have a shot.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:06 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:He’s not going to be a spoiler. Not in any way shape or form.


I will never make pronouncements like that after the horror of 2016.

We all know why Trump got elected. Hillary was shit, didn’t properly campaign, and a lot of people couldn’t connect with her/felt forgotten by society.

Trump came in and said he’ll fix it. Kanye isn’t going to be a spoiler because nobody on the democrats are going to vote for a guy who says Trump is the greatest
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I will never make pronouncements like that after the horror of 2016.

We all know why Trump got elected. Hillary was shit, didn’t properly campaign, and a lot of people couldn’t connect with her/felt forgotten by society.

Trump came in and said he’ll fix it. Kanye isn’t going to be a spoiler because nobody on the democrats are going to vote for a guy who says Trump is the greatest

some independents might.

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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I will never make pronouncements like that after the horror of 2016.

We all know why Trump got elected. Hillary was shit, didn’t properly campaign, and a lot of people couldn’t connect with her/felt forgotten by society.

Trump came in and said he’ll fix it. Kanye isn’t going to be a spoiler because nobody on the democrats are going to vote for a guy who says Trump is the greatest


Not to mention, the Democrats now have a candidate who knows how to properly campaign (see Wisconsin as a prime example), isn't as shitty, and can actually show empathy and relate.

Certainly, Trump can still win, but he's going to have even a tougher time replicating the results he got in 2016.
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Postby Neuer Deutsches Reich » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:31 am

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Postby Kannap » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:32 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We all know why Trump got elected. Hillary was shit, didn’t properly campaign, and a lot of people couldn’t connect with her/felt forgotten by society.

Trump came in and said he’ll fix it. Kanye isn’t going to be a spoiler because nobody on the democrats are going to vote for a guy who says Trump is the greatest

some independents might.


Yeah, the same ones who would've written in Mickey Mouse or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson or literally any person who's not running and doesn't stand a chance.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:33 am

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:some independents might.


Yeah, the same ones who would've written in Mickey Mouse or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson or literally any person who's not running and doesn't stand a chance.


Stein and Johnson helped Trump win what's to say West couldn't do the same?

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:34 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We all know why Trump got elected. Hillary was shit, didn’t properly campaign, and a lot of people couldn’t connect with her/felt forgotten by society.

Trump came in and said he’ll fix it. Kanye isn’t going to be a spoiler because nobody on the democrats are going to vote for a guy who says Trump is the greatest


Not to mention, the Democrats now have a candidate who knows how to properly campaign (see Wisconsin as a prime example), isn't as shitty, and can actually show empathy and relate.

Certainly, Trump can still win, but he's going to have even a tougher time replicating the results he got in 2016.

And of course there were Dems that were complacent and didn't vote because they thought their candidate was going to win, which is a foolish assumption anyway cause the only way you can help them win is by voting for your candidate.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:35 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Not to mention, the Democrats now have a candidate who knows how to properly campaign (see Wisconsin as a prime example), isn't as shitty, and can actually show empathy and relate.

Certainly, Trump can still win, but he's going to have even a tougher time replicating the results he got in 2016.

And of course there were Dems that were complacent and didn't vote because they thought their candidate was going to win, which is a foolish assumption anyway cause the only way you can help them win is by voting for your candidate.

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