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2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Post War America
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Postby Post War America » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:14 am

Rusozak wrote:
Andsed wrote:Some Trump ads have been trying to associate Biden with the radical left. Just imagine thinking that Biden is a radical leftist. Fucking hilarious.


Joe Biden according to Trump ads: Radical extreme leftist who is always in red light for some reason. Also something about cocaine.


I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

Post War America wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Joe Biden according to Trump ads: Radical extreme leftist who is always in red light for some reason. Also something about cocaine.


I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.


The democrats could have chosen such a candidate, instead of a senior citizen who probably wears a diaper.
Then again, the same is true for the Republicans.
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Postby Loben III » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:40 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.


The democrats could have chosen such a candidate, instead of a senior citizen who probably wears a diaper.
Then again, the same is true for the Republicans.


The party of the young, poc and women decided to go with a old white guy. Strange.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:45 am

Loben III wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
The democrats could have chosen such a candidate, instead of a senior citizen who probably wears a diaper.
Then again, the same is true for the Republicans.


The party of the young, poc and women decided to go with a old white guy. Strange.


There is no party of young, poc, and women. The Democrats just don't have the same massive push factor that the Republicans do.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:46 am

Post War America wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Joe Biden according to Trump ads: Radical extreme leftist who is always in red light for some reason. Also something about cocaine.


I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

I wish Joe Biden was cool.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:49 am

Atheris wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

I wish Joe Biden was cool.


Careful now, wouldn't want any criticism of Biden to be construed as support for Trump.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:54 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Which somehow means everyone did

Who said that?


When you said "race-based identity politics" I took that to mean that you thought Obama capitalized on his race, when a retrospective reveals that's simply untrue.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:54 am

Atheris wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

I wish Joe Biden was cool.


I wish he could do a kickflip on a skateboard.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:59 am

Valrifell wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wish Joe Biden was cool.


I wish he could do a kickflip on a skateboard.

If he did a kickflip he would automatically win my vote.

Totally Radical Party, 2020.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:00 am

Valrifell wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wish Joe Biden was cool.


I wish he could do a kickflip on a skateboard.


Beto can!
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Postby United States of Devonta » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:00 am

Valrifell wrote:
Atheris wrote:I wish Joe Biden was cool.


I wish he could do a kickflip on a skateboard.


Beto can!
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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:09 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I wish he could do a kickflip on a skateboard.


Beto can!

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:12 am

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:As an outsider, I really have a hard time understanding the identity race based politics in the US…


Pretending that all Obama campaigned on was his race is blatantly revisionist, if anything he downplayed his race during 2008.


This. It’s worth noting that HRC had a lot of African-American support during the primaries in ‘08, both from voters and from the Black Caucus. Bill had always been seen as an ally, and she followed suit.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:13 am

Loben III wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
The democrats could have chosen such a candidate, instead of a senior citizen who probably wears a diaper.
Then again, the same is true for the Republicans.


The party of the young, poc and women decided to go with a old white guy. Strange.


To the dismay of both Trump supporters and identity politics progressives, that’s really not what the Democratic Party is.

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Postby Cordel One » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:13 am

Post War America wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Joe Biden according to Trump ads: Radical extreme leftist who is always in red light for some reason. Also something about cocaine.


I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.

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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:16 am

Cordel One wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.

No, it really wouldn't.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:23 am

Cordel One wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.

Well, if he was an actual Marxist, we’d see a second term of Trump, so…no.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:25 am

Kowani wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.

Well, if he was an actual Marxist, we’d see a second term of Trump, so…no.


I mean, Republicans already see them as radical Marxists, as do a healthy chunk of "Moderates", so its probably not that big a deal.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:28 am

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:As an outsider, I really have a hard time understanding the identity race based politics in the US…


Pretending that all Obama campaigned on was his race is blatantly revisionist, if anything he downplayed his race during 2008.

THen again, most of Trumps campaign was based on Obamas race.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:28 am

Post War America wrote:
Kowani wrote:Well, if he was an actual Marxist, we’d see a second term of Trump, so…no.


I mean, Republicans already see them as radical Marxists, as do a healthy chunk of "Moderates", so its probably not that big a deal.

In what world do Moderates, which Biden is running away with, see him as a Marxist?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:29 am

Cordel One wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I wish Joe Biden were as cool as Republicans made him out to be.

Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.


I am still convinced that people who self-identified as antifa loved that Trump made them sound important.
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Postby Juristonia » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:31 am

Kowani wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Republicans make Democrats seem really cool when they label them as radical Marxists, if they were anywhere near that the world would be a much better place.

Well, if he was an actual Marxist, we’d see a second term of Trump, so…no.

Whoever's the candidate will get accused of it anyway, so you might as well just run a candidate you like without worrying to much about what Trump and the goonsquad thinks about it.
The Alma Mater wrote:I am still convinced that people who self-identified as antifa loved that Trump made them sound important.

Being simultaneously a basement dwelling soyboy pussy and a dangerous militant violent terrorist hell-bent on destroying society did provide a few chuckles.
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Postby Post War America » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:39 am

Kowani wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I mean, Republicans already see them as radical Marxists, as do a healthy chunk of "Moderates", so its probably not that big a deal.

In what world do Moderates, which Biden is running away with, see him as a Marxist?


Moderate Democrats like Biden, everyone else in his coalition just see Trump as even worse. For most people, being openly racist is bigger push factor than being the American caricature of a Left Wing Radical.
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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:42 am

Juristonia wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I am still convinced that people who self-identified as antifa loved that Trump made them sound important.

Being simultaneously a basement dwelling soyboy pussy and a dangerous militant violent terrorist hell-bent on destroying society did provide a few chuckles.


To be fair, both can be true at the same time.
It just says something about the republicans ;)
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:55 am

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lot-report

Kanye West is attempting to get on the ballot in Wyoming. Its highly unlikely he makes any difference in this ruby red state. There are rumors he might run for governor in 2022 as he has a home there.

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