2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Cannot think of a name]

Bill Clinton losing weight makes his nose out of proportion.

The ABC (easiest way for me to watch this) feed after Clinton was kind of hilarious. It was like the family that has to keep inviting the Uncle they had to have a talking to about his butt pinching but were kind of hoping he couldn't make it. Which is about right.

[Andsed]

If the USPS is being starved of money, I was thinking that it might be possible for some billionaires to get together and write checks that'll cover the cost of vote by mail for this year. If 25 or so get together, they could raise the $25 billion in funding that Trump is trying to block and just bypass the US government completely in delivering it to the postal service.

Jeff Bezos is a rare individual who could do all this himself, but he'd lose a ton of money overnight for no gain. It more or less won't be happening.

or

and hear me out

tax them and provide the services to their fullest

Yes.

[Cannot think of a name]

Are you ready to ruuuuuuuuumble? Here's AOC's 60 seconds...

[Ngelmish]

Bill Clinton losing weight makes his nose out of proportion.

The ABC (easiest way for me to watch this) feed after Clinton was kind of hilarious. It was like the family that has to keep inviting the Uncle they had to have a talking to about his butt pinching but were kind of hoping he couldn't make it. Which is about right.

Clinton's speech was better than I expected, what with being five minutes and all.

Although if you are giving Bill Clinton only five minutes, that's a point at which it does become an open question at whether or not it's worth having him at all, given the current zeitgeist's hostility towards him.

[Saiwania]

or
and hear me out
tax them and provide the services to their fullest

The USPS shouldn't require so much money to operate effectively anyways. I think they could be streamlined for the internet age and the giant cause for the USPS' woes are the requirements to fund their employees' retirement/health benefits. Take that away and the postal service will definitely be in the black. The postal workers should ideally fund their own 401ks, IRAs, and etc. like people do in other industries.

[Sarenium]

or
and hear me out
tax them and provide the services to their fullest

The USPS shouldn't require so much money to operate effectively anyways. I think they could be streamlined for the internet age and the giant cause for the USPS' woes are the requirements to fund their employees' retirement/health benefits. Take that away and the postal service will definitely be in the black. The postal workers should ideally fund their own 401ks, IRAs, and etc. like people do in other industries.

You can't dock a generation's retirement to rewire it for the next generation.

Retirees shouldn't be living in poverty for you to get your checks on time. Alternatively, stop mailing out checks and just directly deposit them in people's accounts.

[Cannot think of a name]

Damn, they closed the Selma bridge to submit their delegates.

Oh man...this is going to take a bit. It looks like all fifty something will do a little featurette. American Samoa looks pleasant. Not sure what the soldiers were for. Or even if that's allowed...wait, is that allowed? American Samoa had two soldiers behind the people announcing, can you use active duty troops in your election campaigning? I don't know but I'd assume no.

Aw, also ABC cut away. It was going to be tedious, but so are these ads.

[Cannot think of a name]

I switched to YouTube, but they were already up to Florida. I missed California. If our production values sucked, what the hell are we doing...

[The Black Forrest]

or
and hear me out
tax them and provide the services to their fullest

The USPS shouldn't require so much money to operate effectively anyways. I think they could be streamlined for the internet age and the giant cause for the USPS' woes are the requirements to fund their employees' retirement/health benefits. Take that away and the postal service will definitely be in the black. The postal workers should ideally fund their own 401ks, IRAs, and etc. like people do in other industries.

USPS isn’t a business. Never was. What is funny is the people screaming about moderinizing are the ones that will be hurt by it. The Net isn’t everywhere in the US. The disadvantaged; the elderly.

401Ks? Oh you believe in that free market nonsense.

American capitalism hates pensions because they actually take care of people.

Even 401Ks are getting complaints. For shame having to match up to 1000$. Such Communism....wait they are gone..... SOCIALIST!......that doesn’t sound scary. Poor Conservatives. Just lost in the wilderness without the USSR.....so sad....

[Saiwania]

Retirees shouldn't be living in poverty for you to get your checks on time. Alternatively, stop mailing out checks and just directly deposit them in people's accounts.

They wouldn't had they invested successfully or regularly contributed to retirement accounts whilst they were working instead of counting on a pension still be available while they're too old to work effectively. Fact is pensions have gone away almost globally because it flat out doesn't work to spend money on people no longer producing any return for a business. It may've only worked in the old days, because people died earlier on average and because family sizes were large.

[The Black Forrest]

Retirees shouldn't be living in poverty for you to get your checks on time. Alternatively, stop mailing out checks and just directly deposit them in people's accounts.

They wouldn't had they invested successfully or regularly contributed to retirement accounts whilst they were working instead of counting on a pension still be available while they're too old to work effectively. Fact is pensions have gone away almost globally because it flat out doesn't work to spend money on people no longer producing any return for a business. It may've only worked in the old days, because people died earlier on average and because family sizes were large.

Oh goody. This trope again. Normally; I would address it and then I remember you aren’t even in the US.....

[Post War America]

Retirees shouldn't be living in poverty for you to get your checks on time. Alternatively, stop mailing out checks and just directly deposit them in people's accounts.

They wouldn't had they invested successfully or regularly contributed to retirement accounts whilst they were working instead of counting on a pension still be available while they're too old to work effectively. Fact is pensions have gone away almost globally because it flat out doesn't work to spend money on people no longer producing any return for a business. It may've only worked in the old days, because people died earlier on average and because family sizes were large.

Hard to contribute to retirement accounts when rent is about 50% of the average income... at best. Not counting food, utilities, the fact that people in the States need to own and pay the massive expenses associated with a car, oh and the possibility of getting seriously sick and having to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for healthcare. This of course assumes you were lucratively employed straight of high school, which since the 70s has been increasingly unlikely. Otherwise people are starting at a net negative net work for thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

[Cannot think of a name]

Montana didn't use a windsock.

Ah crap, the YouTube feed is just NBC, who has broken away from the role call.

[Shrillland]

Another call to make:

GOP WY-Senate: Cynthia Lummis
GOP WY-At-Large: Liz Cheney

[Sarenium]

Retirees shouldn't be living in poverty for you to get your checks on time. Alternatively, stop mailing out checks and just directly deposit them in people's accounts.

They wouldn't had they invested successfully or regularly contributed to retirement accounts whilst they were working instead of counting on a pension still be available while they're too old to work effectively. Fact is pensions have gone away almost globally because it flat out doesn't work to spend money on people no longer producing any return for a business. It may've only worked in the old days, because people died earlier on average and because family sizes were large.

Successful retirement systems are built on three pillars.

1. Needs-based public pensions (in the US this would be pegging Social Security to your retirement fund)
2. Employer-contributed personal retirement stock (aka Superannuation/401k)
3. An appropriate social safety net that covers essentials including publicly funded universal healthcare, a public aged care network and a well-funded and robust healthcare system in the lead up to retirement (which doesn't exist in the US until 65 unless you join the #FreedomDistributionForce^TM/U.S. Armed Forces)

No. 2 isn't available to everyone.
No. 1 is underfunded for those who really need it.
No. 3 doesn't exist.

[Cannot think of a name]

And that's it. Biden is no longer the presumptive nominee, he's the nominee.

If you have balloons, drop them on yourself.

[San Lumen]

Another call to make:

GOP WY-Senate: Cynthia Lummis
GOP WY-At-Large: Liz Cheney

I forgot she was running. She will be Wyoming’s first woman senator correct?

[Shrillland]

Another call to make:

GOP WY-Senate: Cynthia Lummis
GOP WY-At-Large: Liz Cheney

I forgot she was running. She will be Wyoming’s first woman senator correct?

She will, yes.

[Kowani]

Watching anti-Bernie Twitter freak out over AOC seconding Bernie’ nomination because they don’t know how conventions work was fun.

[San Lumen]

I forgot she was running. She will be Wyoming’s first woman senator correct?

She will, yes.

Awesome more women in power is a good thing as long as they arent crazy people like Majorie Greene

[Post War America]

Watching anti-Bernie Twitter freak out over AOC seconding Bernie’ nomination because they don’t know how conventions work was fun.

For a moment they worried that they might have to face actual change.

[Shrillland]

Another call:

Dem WY-At-Large: Lynnette Grey Bull

[San Lumen]

Another call:

Dem WY-At-Large: Lynnette Grey Bull

How where you able to call the Wyoming Senate for Lummis with so little of the vote in? I don't doubt she's going to win though

[Shrillland]

Another call:

Dem WY-At-Large: Lynnette Grey Bull

How where you able to call the Wyoming Senate for Lummis with so little of the vote in? I don't doubt she's going to win though

Because she's the only really well-known one on the ballot. Lest we forget, Wyoming's the least-populated state as well, and they're already at 10%.

[San Lumen]

How where you able to call the Wyoming Senate for Lummis with so little of the vote in? I don't doubt she's going to win though

Because she's the only really well-known one on the ballot. Lest we forget, Wyoming's the least-populated state as well, and they're already at 10%.

Makes sense. Plus she seems rather reasonable. Wyoming doesn't tend to elect far right people to statewide office. Their governor is very moderate