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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:49 am

DragonFarm wrote:Lay off the orange man, the orange man running out of orange juice soon orange man will be dried up orange. If you have followed Donald trump though the presidential cycle you can see how much he has aged, he always looks tired and it dosent hep that we have a media and government thats constantly trying to undermine him and mess up what he is doing. He recently made that middle east deal. I didnt see anyone in the media talking about that, instead they decided to rant about the post office.

Oh boo fucking hoo. Maybe once Trump starts not being a corrupt incompetent asshole I will lay off him. until then(which is to say likely never) I will happily continue to lay into him for things like gutting the post office for no good reason thereby making it harder to tally ballots and for the post office to function.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:51 am

DragonFarm wrote:Lay off the orange man, the orange man running out of orange juice soon orange man will be dried up orange. If you have followed Donald trump though the presidential cycle you can see how much he has aged, he always looks tired and it dosent hep that we have a media and government thats constantly trying to undermine him and mess up what he is doing. He recently made that middle east deal. I didnt see anyone in the media talking about that, instead they decided to rant about the post office.


Ok. Trying to follow you again.

The media already talked about the UAE deal. How do you think we heard about it? The ME is not that simple. One incident and this could change back to “I hate you”

Now if Trump was the legendary negotiator he always claims to be......negotiate a solution between Israel and the Palestinians. He wont.

Anyway; He should forget about it in a day or so.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:54 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:So looking at the poll reminded me that I hate every fucking political party we have. They are literally all trash to some degree.

Except maybe the Alliance Party. I know very little about them, can someone fill me in on what they believe? They seem to take healthcare, education, and the environment seriously so they've already got fine points in my book. But I'd like more information before judging them.

The Alliance Parry is pretty good from what I’ve been able to find. Here’s their party platform
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:54 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:Lay off the orange man, the orange man running out of orange juice soon orange man will be dried up orange. If you have followed Donald trump though the presidential cycle you can see how much he has aged, he always looks tired and it dosent hep that we have a media and government thats constantly trying to undermine him and mess up what he is doing. He recently made that middle east deal. I didnt see anyone in the media talking about that, instead they decided to rant about the post office.

You haven’t seen anyone in the media talk about the agreement? How did you find out about it? Israel called you?

Also, this might sound crazy to you but a siting president trying to undermine our democracy is kind of
newsworthy.

No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:58 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:So looking at the poll reminded me that I hate every fucking political party we have. They are literally all trash to some degree.

Except maybe the Alliance Party. I know very little about them, can someone fill me in on what they believe? They seem to take healthcare, education, and the environment seriously so they've already got fine points in my book. But I'd like more information before judging them.

The Alliance Parry is pretty good from what I’ve been able to find. Here’s their party platform


Yeah, alright, they seem pretty good. Maybe when Trump is finally out of office I'll give AP my vote next time. We'll see what happens.
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:00 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The Alliance Parry is pretty good from what I’ve been able to find. Here’s their party platform


Yeah, alright, they seem pretty good. Maybe when Trump is finally out of office I'll give AP my vote next time. We'll see what happens.

I dont really see what trump has exactly done bad? I also aint sure why people hate him so much.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:02 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You haven’t seen anyone in the media talk about the agreement? How did you find out about it? Israel called you?

Also, this might sound crazy to you but a siting president trying to undermine our democracy is kind of
newsworthy.

No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.


Oh you aren’t going to last long here.

Ok. I will ask you what nobody else ever tries to explain.

How has he made America Great Again?

Sexual assaulting children is kind of frowned on by most people. Have proof for that claim or are you lying?

There maybe a couple here who hate Trump. Simple odds after all. However, here is the thing of it sparky. Most people go to bed at night and really don’t think about him. Most people here don’t spend their days seething about what Trump does or says.

Oh finally, simple rule if you plan to stay here. Attack the post and not the person.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:04 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.


Oh you aren’t going to last long here.

Ok. I will ask you what nobody else ever tries to explain.

How has he made America Great Again?

Sexual assaulting children is kind of frowned on by most people. Have proof for that claim or are you lying?

There maybe a couple here who hate Trump. Simple odds after all. However, here is the thing of it sparky. Most people go to bed at night and really don’t think about him. Most people here don’t spend their days seething about what Trump does or says.

Oh finally, simple rule if you plan to stay here. Attack the post and not the person.


Don't bother. I've tried the "How has he made America 'great' again?" question before. All I got is misdirection, shrugs and "I dunno he just did", or they don't even bother responding.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:08 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh you aren’t going to last long here.

Ok. I will ask you what nobody else ever tries to explain.

How has he made America Great Again?

Sexual assaulting children is kind of frowned on by most people. Have proof for that claim or are you lying?

There maybe a couple here who hate Trump. Simple odds after all. However, here is the thing of it sparky. Most people go to bed at night and really don’t think about him. Most people here don’t spend their days seething about what Trump does or says.

Oh finally, simple rule if you plan to stay here. Attack the post and not the person.


Don't bother. I've tried the "How has he made America 'great' again?" question before. All I got is misdirection, shrugs and "I dunno he just did", or they don't even bother responding.


Oh I already expect a non-answer when I ask. It’s a trite phrase with no meaning and yet it excites people to buy made in china hats.
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:09 am

Donald J. Trump has made records in GDP growth, Unemployment rates and has helped many businesses thrive by removing unnecessary restrictions. He has had a strong trade policy to keep other countries from taking advantage of us. He has also focused on problems that we have at home instead of worrying about other countries issues. He has defeated ISIS and killed the top terrorist leader to make the world a better place. So let me ask you a question? How has he not made america great? Also, you cant prove that any rape allegation against trump is real. They may have been fabricated as a way to discredit the president and lower his chances of winning the election.

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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:09 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You haven’t seen anyone in the media talk about the agreement? How did you find out about it? Israel called you?

Also, this might sound crazy to you but a siting president trying to undermine our democracy is kind of
newsworthy.

No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.

He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?
I do be tired


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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:10 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Don't bother. I've tried the "How has he made America 'great' again?" question before. All I got is misdirection, shrugs and "I dunno he just did", or they don't even bother responding.

It's obvious: Trump's face beamed onto the populace, automatically expanding America's greatness. Now it is bigly great. /s
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:11 am

Andsed wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.

He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?


No, see, it's okay when his side does it. Obviously if the Dems did it too it'd be doubleplus ungood, see?

Nuroblav wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Don't bother. I've tried the "How has he made America 'great' again?" question before. All I got is misdirection, shrugs and "I dunno he just did", or they don't even bother responding.

It's obvious: Trump's face beamed onto the populace, automatically expanding America's greatness. Now it is bigly great. /s


Some would even say it's... YUGE.
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:11 am

Andsed wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.

He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?

Why do we need to vote by mail anyways? So that millions of people can vote even before Donald trump has had a chance to debate Joe Biden. Just go to the ballot office, wear a mask, socially distance. How is it any different than going to the grocery store to buy food, its not.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:12 am

DragonFarm wrote:Donald J. Trump has made records in GDP growth, Unemployment rates and has helped many businesses thrive by removing unnecessary restrictions. He has had a strong trade policy to keep other countries from taking advantage of us. He has also focused on problems that we have at home instead of worrying about other countries issues. He has defeated ISIS and killed the top terrorist leader to make the world a better place. So let me ask you a question? How has he not made america great? Also, you cant prove that any rape allegation against trump is real. They may have been fabricated as a way to discredit the president and lower his chances of winning the election.

Citations please.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:12 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Yeah, alright, they seem pretty good. Maybe when Trump is finally out of office I'll give AP my vote next time. We'll see what happens.

I dont really see what trump has exactly done bad? I also aint sure why people hate him so much.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:13 am

Andsed wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:No he talked about it himself. He isnt the media is he but as you may understand it is your opinion that he is undermining the democracy but maybe other people think it is a perfectly reasonable thing for a president to do because he may have a wider boundary for possible things than anyone else can. He also didnt rape children (Joe Biden *Ahem*) Anyways its nice to see that everyone is a trump hater here because it just makes it so entertaining to see you talk. Ill just wait for your next idiotic response so I can laugh at your stupidity... Jk everyone is entitled to there own opinion even if that opinion is deemed to be false or frankly idiotic.

He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?


Indeed. I am seeing reports of post office boxes being removed and heard a story of mail sorting machines being pulled.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:13 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Andsed wrote:He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?

Why do we need to vote by mail anyways? So that millions of people can vote even before Donald trump has had a chance to debate Joe Biden. Just go to the ballot office, wear a mask, socially distance. How is it any different than going to the grocery store to buy food, its not.


So you object to people being able to freely exercise a constitutional right.
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:13 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Andsed wrote:He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?


No, see, it's okay when his side does it. Obviously if the Dems did it too it'd be doubleplus ungood, see?

Nuroblav wrote:It's obvious: Trump's face beamed onto the populace, automatically expanding America's greatness. Now it is bigly great. /s


Some would even say it's... YUGE.

Thats kind of hypocritical to say that when one side does something the other says its ungood. No matter what trump does the left has to take the opposite side on it. If he said let the riots continue then the mayors would ask for him to give them the national guard to get rid of them. Ive seen it happen before.

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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:Why do we need to vote by mail anyways? So that millions of people can vote even before Donald trump has had a chance to debate Joe Biden. Just go to the ballot office, wear a mask, socially distance. How is it any different than going to the grocery store to buy food, its not.


So you object to people being able to freely exercise a constitutional right.

Did i say that? No. If you want to vote, get off your ass go to the ballot office and put in your vote? You can still vote, unless you choose not too.

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:15 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Andsed wrote:He is gutting the post office and making it harder for it to tally the ballots effectivly for no real reason. How is that not extremely concerning?

Why do we need to vote by mail anyways? So that millions of people can vote even before Donald trump has had a chance to debate Joe Biden. Just go to the ballot office, wear a mask, socially distance. How is it any different than going to the grocery store to buy food, its not.

My god this is so fucking telling.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:16 am

DragonFarm wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you object to people being able to freely exercise a constitutional right.

Did i say that? No. If you want to vote, get off your ass go to the ballot office and put in your vote? You can still vote, unless you choose not too.


So you have no solution to the GOP closing polling locations in pro-Democrat areas. Or to people who aren't able to vote in person because they can't get time off work to do it.
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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:17 am

No one responded to this even though they asked for it? Are you trying to distract from it.

Donald J. Trump has made records in GDP growth, Unemployment rates and has helped many businesses thrive by removing unnecessary restrictions. He has had a strong trade policy to keep other countries from taking advantage of us. He has also focused on problems that we have at home instead of worrying about other countries issues. He has defeated ISIS and killed the top terrorist leader to make the world a better place. So let me ask you a question? How has he not made america great? Also, you cant prove that any rape allegation against trump is real. They may have been fabricated as a way to discredit the president and lower his chances of winning the election.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:18 am

DragonFarm wrote:No one responded to this even though they asked for it? Are you trying to distract from it.

Donald J. Trump has made records in GDP growth, Unemployment rates and has helped many businesses thrive by removing unnecessary restrictions. He has had a strong trade policy to keep other countries from taking advantage of us. He has also focused on problems that we have at home instead of worrying about other countries issues. He has defeated ISIS and killed the top terrorist leader to make the world a better place. So let me ask you a question? How has he not made america great? Also, you cant prove that any rape allegation against trump is real. They may have been fabricated as a way to discredit the president and lower his chances of winning the election.


How has he done those things.

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Postby DragonFarm » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:18 am

Vassenor wrote:
DragonFarm wrote:Did i say that? No. If you want to vote, get off your ass go to the ballot office and put in your vote? You can still vote, unless you choose not too.


So you have no solution to the GOP closing polling locations in pro-Democrat areas. Or to people who aren't able to vote in person because they can't get time off work to do it.


You mean the democrats closing polling locations in the pro democrat areas so that people will have to vote by mail.

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