2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Cisairse]

I'd assume for most Trump supporters that being a Democrat is dirty laundry enough.

Locking innocent men up and taking bribes from trump isn't dirty laundry?

It is.

But plenty of people would tell you it isn't if a Republican did it.

That's kinda my point. There are apparently a substantial number of Americans — about ten percent of them, supposedly — who approve of President Trump right now and view a potential Harris vice presidency favorably.
I think that's kinda weird.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/14/do-you-regret-all-your-lying-white-house-reporters-question-startles-trump

Holy shit, a reporter just asked Trump if he regrets all the lying he's done over the last four years.

Trump was so caught off guard he didn't even try to argue. He just stared dumbfounded and then called on someone else.

Repost from the MAGA thread.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Locking innocent men up and taking bribes from trump isn't dirty laundry?

It is.

But plenty of people would tell you it isn't if a Republican did it.

That's kinda my point. There are apparently a substantial number of Americans — about ten percent of them, supposedly — who approve of President Trump right now and view a potential Harris vice presidency favorably.
I think that's kinda weird.

...what the hell

[Telconi]

Locking innocent men up and taking bribes from trump isn't dirty laundry?

It is.

But plenty of people would tell you it isn't if a Republican did it.

That's kinda my point. There are apparently a substantial number of Americans — about ten percent of them, supposedly — who approve of President Trump right now and view a potential Harris vice presidency favorably.
I think that's kinda weird.

How does one like both Trump and Harris unless they're just the literal embodiment of "Fuck the poors"

[Cisairse]

It is.

But plenty of people would tell you it isn't if a Republican did it.

That's kinda my point. There are apparently a substantial number of Americans — about ten percent of them, supposedly — who approve of President Trump right now and view a potential Harris vice presidency favorably.
I think that's kinda weird.

How does one like both Trump and Harris unless they're just the literal embodiment of "Fuck the poors"

Good question.

[Shrillland]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

[Cisairse]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Nice.

[Cannot think of a name]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/14/do-you-regret-all-your-lying-white-house-reporters-question-startles-trump

Holy shit, a reporter just asked Trump if he regrets all the lying he's done over the last four years.

Trump was so caught off guard he didn't even try to argue. He just stared dumbfounded and then called on someone else.

Repost from the MAGA thread.

Honestly, almost out of character reserve. You'd expect him to go on a tirade against the guy.

[San Lumen]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Given the make up of the court I say it’s fairly likely it’s granted

[Cisairse]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Given the make up of the court I say it’s fairly likely it’s granted

Depends entirely on the relevant law.

[San Lumen]

Given the make up of the court I say it’s fairly likely it’s granted

Depends entirely on the relevant law.

I know and Republicans in the state are trying to pass a constitutional amendment that would change court elections from statewide to be district effectively gerrymandering the courts. Hopefully Democrats get enough seats in November to prevent the amendment from going through.

[Shrillland]

Another addition to the Plaza today, and a two-part question to boot.

Montana: CI-118 and I-190 are two parts of a single initiative. CI-118 would amend the constitution to allow either the legislature or a ballot initative to legalise and set a minimum age for the use of marijuana. If CI-118 passes, I-190 is the legalisation mechanism itself. It would set the age at 21 and impose a 20% sales tax that would go to the Fish, Wildlife, an Parks Department(37.125%), the general fund(10.5%), a drug addiction treatment fund(10%), a fund for local authorities to regulate the trade(10%), a fund for providing service and assistance to veterans(10%), a fund to provide wage increases to Medicaid-funded home health care workers(10%), the nongame wildlife fund(4.125%), the state parks fund(4.125%), and the trails and recreational facilities fund(4.125%). Marijuana would have to be grown in a private, locked space, and marijuana possession could still be fined beyond a certain weight limit. People who were convicted of marijuana-related felonies beforehand could now get them expunged.

[Corrian]

Depends entirely on the relevant law.

I know and Republicans in the state are trying to pass a constitutional amendment that would change court elections from statewide to be district effectively gerrymandering the courts. Hopefully Democrats get enough seats in November to prevent the amendment from going through.

Jesus fuck Republicans have complete disregard for everything democracy.

[Shrillland]

I know and Republicans in the state are trying to pass a constitutional amendment that would change court elections from statewide to be district effectively gerrymandering the courts. Hopefully Democrats get enough seats in November to prevent the amendment from going through.

Jesus fuck Republicans have complete disregard for everything democracy.

That's what we've been saying for a while.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Given the make up of the court I say it’s fairly likely it’s granted

You were opposed to taking in postal votes after election day. Now you realize it might be necessary?

Results don't have to be certified for ages, they should just keep counting for two weeks ... or four weeks or whatever the state deadline to certify is.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Speaking of voting by mail, Trump has requested a mail-in ballot for one of Florida's congressional primary. His excuse, of course, will be from this tweet: it's safe in Florida to vote by mail.

So in states that voted him its safe but in states and counties that didnt its not? That makes perfect sense

Shh nobody tell him. Florida is still a swing state ...

[Kazarogkai]

Did I say they would be very progressive? Nope, but doesn't mean they won't push through stuff that makes them the most progressive. Reagan wouldn't be passing voting rights, nor LGTBT rights, nor possibly college tuition and evolution towards some form of free healthcare.

I argue that progressives should support Biden since it will be a step forward to implementing their vision. Trump would never lay any sort of foundation for that.

I would argue it would be better for progressives to vote trump albeight for completely different. Ever heard the term backlash? Biden is like a bandage, hell stop the bleeding for a bit and get rid of some of the pain thereby reducing the incentive for full revolution in the future. A second Trump victory in contrast will be the equivalent of a knife in the proverbial wound. The goal is to create as possible thereby increasing the likelihood and willingness for the public to support radical actions in counter. The worse things become the more powerful radicals get. The general public wouldn't have turned to men like Mussolini and Hitler or for that matter Lenin or Mao if the situation was rosy. Moderates and various degrees of centrist are the true bane of this country and the direct cause for why it is in the state it is in with their views and policies in effect causing and encouraging a stagnation and ultimately rot. They must be suppressed and smothered in order to bring the desired reaction among the general public. An energized Trump Second Term might just create the pressure cooker that would be ideal.

Basically this country needs a Huey Long not a FDR, your not going to get the former without keeping the latter out of office.

[Telconi]

Jesus fuck Republicans have complete disregard for everything democracy.

That's what we've been saying for a while.

What a bright future we have to look forward to!

[Neutraligon]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Personally of the opinion that if the ballot is posted a set time before the time the polls close (say for example 2 days) then they should be counted.

[South Odreria 2]

Anyone know of any good third party candidates

[The Black Forrest]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

I am shocked Trumps boy can’t get the ballots in time to a state with a demo Gov.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

USPS is now warning Pennsylvania that mail-in ballots likely won't be counted due to the commonwealth's strict deadlines, leading election officials to file a motion with the commonwealth supreme court to allow ballots to be counted for up to three days after the election day deadline: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511975-usps-warns-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots-may-not-be-delivered-in-time-to

Personally of the opinion that if the ballot is posted a set time before the time the polls close (say for example 2 days) then they should be counted.

Postal delay is an unknown factor. They have to draw the line somewhere after election day, and however late that is there will be a few votes that don't make it in time.

I think two weeks should be enough. The few ballots after that are unlikely to change the result in any district.

[Soiled fruit roll ups]

Anyone know of any good third party candidates

This, whats the libertarian guys name this time?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Anyone know of any good third party candidates

This, whats the libertarian guys name this time?

Joe I think

[Shrillland]

That's what we've been saying for a while.

What a bright future we have to look forward to!

Right? I don't look forward to seeing political massacres in this country myself, but it seems to be where we're headed and soon.