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2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:41 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A provisional ballot also known as a affidavit is only given if a voter can not be found in the poll roster book. They are only given out at the polling site


Or if you cannot vote in-precinct. But no, concern over a mailed ballot would not allow you to cast a provisional, because you've already cast a vote.

Yes true but you can only receive one at a poll site

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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:41 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Or if you cannot vote in-precinct. But no, concern over a mailed ballot would not allow you to cast a provisional, because you've already cast a vote.

Yes true but you can only receive one at a poll site


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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:49 am

-Ra- wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.
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Postby -Ra- » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:51 am

-Astoria- wrote:
-Ra- wrote:Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.
:thonk:

I'll be sure to save this so we can revisit it when he wins.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:10 am

-Ra- wrote:
-Astoria- wrote::thonk:

I'll be sure to save this so we can revisit it when he wins.

On what are you going off that gives you such confidence that Trump will win? Because saying ¨when Trump wins¨ implies that you know for a fact he is going to win. How do you figure that?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:11 am

Andsed wrote:
-Ra- wrote:I'll be sure to save this so we can revisit it when he wins.

On what are you going off that gives you such confidence that Trump will win?

Probably some mass conspiracy to lie to pollsters

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:15 am

-Ra- wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I doubt it, but 2020 has been packed with surprises

People said that in 2016, and yet he won.

BuT tHiS TiMe i'LL bE RiGhT!


So wait your argument is "meh 2016"?

Called it!

And 2016 was a different election and more pollsters weight for education now.
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:22 am

-Ra- wrote:
-Astoria- wrote::thonk:

I'll be sure to save this so we can revisit it when he wins.

If: but what makes you think that he would win?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:47 am

Image


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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:49 am

I just read two, absolutely cringe-inducing articles by Malaysiakini consisting of nothing but endless fawning over Kamala Harris and identitarian virtue-signaling about her race and gender. What is with the MSM today? This is turning out to be an exact repeat of four years ago when the media fawned uncritically over Hillary Clinton and everyone else was just a "bunch of deplorables". It's almost as if they haven't learned a damned thing these four years and it's frustrating as hell. I was just reminded of the role she played in the politically-motivated, misandrist witch hunt of then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Now I remember why I dislike her and a number of other U.S. Senators so much. For a so-called, "moderate" centrist like her, she is as much an insufferable, woke, virtue-signaling feminist as all the other radical far-leftists who have roundly and openly denigrated half the human population solely on account of their gender. Her presidency will likely translate to a rollback of some of the significant gains that have been made by men's rights activists under the current Trump administration.

Kamala Harris' selection as VP nominee has really turned me off of supporting Joe Biden and the Democrats. Good job Joe. It's almost as if you want to lose despite Trump's rightly and understandably abysmal poll ratings. It really makes my stomach churn. If not for the coronavirus pandemic and the battered U.S. economy, I think I might be leaning in favor of backing Trump at this point as would millions of moderates and centrists in the United States who otherwise remain undecided over who to support.

Meanwhile, so-called "liberal" Malaysians appear to have been completely taken in by this disgusting, woke, identitarian nonsense. One Malaysian commentator had this to say:

Human rights [LOL!] activist Ivy Josiah believes the nomination says a lot about Biden himself as a male leader who recognises the importance of female leadership and that he is not threatened.

"For us, in Malaysia, we can’t help but compare, we are dismayed that women in decision-making positions are being sidelined, replaced by men. I am referring to recent moves in the GLCs. Furthermore, a cabinet that only has five women out of 36 members is sad. What has happened to the promise of having at a minimum 30 percent of women in decision-making positions?" she said.

"Let me be blunt, here in Malaysia we are witnessing an overdrive of male leadership across the board!" added Josiah.


This lady right here has a problem with male leadership per se. Just imagine what the reaction would be if some male conservative activist complained about an "overdrive of female leadership across the board" or demanded quotas and affirmative action for men in decision-making positions. The misogynist prick would've been CANCELED on the spot! This feminist double standard right here is downright reprehensible and these people should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. After all, the Democrats support EXACTLY the same kind of discriminatory, racist, sexist policies that UMNO and PAS have been practicing for DECADES in Malaysia: Special rights and affirmative action for a select group of people due to "historical grievances", "systemic racism/sexism". For the former, it's women, blacks, Muslims, and other hitherto "oppressed" groups. For the latter, it's Malays and Muslims. In both America and Malaysia, Muslims benefit tremendously from a very high degree of undeserved public sympathy borne solely of identity-based, oppression Olympics and evil, Christian white men/non-Muslim Malaysian Chinese. The Malaysian far-right and the American far-left have far more in common with each other than they think. Fascism and Marxism are really two sides of the same, extremist coin and something has GOT to give.

These so-called "liberal" Malaysians ought to know better. They should be comparing UMNO and PAS to the Democrats rather than to Trump. They don't understand what ACTUAL meritocracy stands for. Their goal is simply to replace one form of petty racial and gender discrimination AKA quotas and "affirmative action" with yet another, trapping commonsense centrists and genuine liberals like me between a rock and a hard place and forcing us to choose between the lesser of two extremes, a key feature of democracies with a deeply polarizing, first-past-the-post, two-party system, which both Malaysia and America possess and the UK exported around the world to everyone's detriment. What a fucking disappointment.

The Democrats don't deserve to win from a strictly moral standpoint, and if they do win, it's only because Trump dun goofed BIG TIME on the coronavirus and set himself up to be a loser and a very sore one at that. He doesn't deserve to win either at the rate he's alienating moderates and hemorrhaging support with his deadly, anti-scientific posturing and the amount of American blood he has on his hands right now.
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:50 am

Bear Stearns wrote:

loooool
> 2019

Very up-to-date.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:50 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:

loooool
> 2019

Very up-to-date.


Well does she still believe the accusers or not? :^)
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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:58 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:> 2019

Very up-to-date.


Well does she still believe the accusers or not? :^)


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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:08 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:> 2019

Very up-to-date.


Well does she still believe the accusers or not? :^)


You can believe the accusers and want to work with/for Biden. One of the corroborators for one of the accusers was very public that they were still going to vote for Biden.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:10 am

Valrifell wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Well does she still believe the accusers or not? :^)


You can believe the accusers and want to work with/for Biden. One of the corroborators for one of the accusers was very public that they were still going to vote for Biden.


These sound like great people.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:13 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
You can believe the accusers and want to work with/for Biden. One of the corroborators for one of the accusers was very public that they were still going to vote for Biden.


These sound like great people.


Supporting sexual abuse to own the cons...
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:16 am

Telconi wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
These sound like great people.


Supporting sexual abuse to own the cons...


Voting for Biden isn't a vote to support sexual abuse.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:21 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
-Ra- wrote:People said that in 2016, and yet he won.

BuT tHiS TiMe i'LL bE RiGhT!


So wait your argument is "meh 2016"?

Called it!

And 2016 was a different election and more pollsters weight for education now.


Not to mention, there are far less undecided/third party voters. To put it in perspective, I took all the polling from 2016 and 2020 in July and compared them. During that month, Clinton's polling average was 42%; Trump;s 39%. That left 19% undecided/voting third party. Fast forward to 2020 and it's much different: Biden's July average is 49.5%; Trump's 41.4%. That only leaves 9.1% people that are undecided/third party voters.

The difference is big: Biden's lead is 7.5 points larger than Clinton's at this point; Trump's is only 2.4 points larger. Time is on Trump's side as he can tighten that margin, but Trump has far less voters to work with this go around, and doesn't bold well for his chances.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:24 am

Zurkerx wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
So wait your argument is "meh 2016"?

Called it!

And 2016 was a different election and more pollsters weight for education now.


Not to mention, there are far less undecided/third party voters. To put it in perspective, I took all the polling from 2016 and 2020 in July and compared them. During that month, Clinton's polling average was 42%; Trump;s 39%. That left 19% undecided/voting third party. Fast forward to 2020 and it's much different: Biden's July average is 49.5%; Trump's 41.4%. That only leaves 9.1% people that are undecided/third party voters.

The difference is big: Biden's lead is 7.5 points larger than Clinton's at this point; Trump's is only 2.4 points larger. Time is on Trump's side as he can tighten that margin, but Trump has far less voters to work with this go around, and doesn't bold well for his chances.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, by that time I'd love to see the polling differences from 2016 and 2020 during the final couple of months.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:24 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:I just read two, absolutely cringe-inducing articles by Malaysiakini consisting of nothing but endless fawning over Kamala Harris and identitarian virtue-signaling about her race and gender. What is with the MSM today? This is turning out to be an exact repeat of four years ago when the media fawned uncritically over Hillary Clinton and everyone else was just a "bunch of deplorables". It's almost as if they haven't learned a damned thing these four years and it's frustrating as hell. I was just reminded of the role she played in the politically-motivated, misandrist witch hunt of then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Now I remember why I dislike her and a number of other U.S. Senators so much. For a so-called, "moderate" centrist like her, she is as much an insufferable, woke, virtue-signaling feminist as all the other radical far-leftists who have roundly and openly denigrated half the human population solely on account of their gender. Her presidency will likely translate to a rollback of some of the significant gains that have been made by men's rights activists under the current Trump administration.

Kamala Harris' selection as VP nominee has really turned me off of supporting Joe Biden and the Democrats. Good job Joe. It's almost as if you want to lose despite Trump's rightly and understandably abysmal poll ratings. It really makes my stomach churn. If not for the coronavirus pandemic and the battered U.S. economy, I think I might be leaning in favor of backing Trump at this point as would millions of moderates and centrists in the United States who otherwise remain undecided over who to support.

Meanwhile, so-called "liberal" Malaysians appear to have been completely taken in by this disgusting, woke, identitarian nonsense. One Malaysian commentator had this to say:

Human rights [LOL!] activist Ivy Josiah believes the nomination says a lot about Biden himself as a male leader who recognises the importance of female leadership and that he is not threatened.

"For us, in Malaysia, we can’t help but compare, we are dismayed that women in decision-making positions are being sidelined, replaced by men. I am referring to recent moves in the GLCs. Furthermore, a cabinet that only has five women out of 36 members is sad. What has happened to the promise of having at a minimum 30 percent of women in decision-making positions?" she said.

"Let me be blunt, here in Malaysia we are witnessing an overdrive of male leadership across the board!" added Josiah.


This lady right here has a problem with male leadership per se. Just imagine what the reaction would be if some male conservative activist complained about an "overdrive of female leadership across the board" or demanded quotas and affirmative action for men in decision-making positions. The misogynist prick would've been CANCELED on the spot! This feminist double standard right here is downright reprehensible and these people should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. After all, the Democrats support EXACTLY the same kind of discriminatory, racist, sexist policies that UMNO and PAS have been practicing for DECADES in Malaysia: Special rights and affirmative action for a select group of people due to "historical grievances", "systemic racism/sexism". For the former, it's women, blacks, Muslims, and other hitherto "oppressed" groups. For the latter, it's Malays and Muslims. In both America and Malaysia, Muslims benefit tremendously from a very high degree of undeserved public sympathy borne solely of identity-based, oppression Olympics and evil, Christian white men/non-Muslim Malaysian Chinese. The Malaysian far-right and the American far-left have far more in common with each other than they think. Fascism and Marxism are really two sides of the same, extremist coin and something has GOT to give.

These so-called "liberal" Malaysians ought to know better. They should be comparing UMNO and PAS to the Democrats rather than to Trump. They don't understand what ACTUAL meritocracy stands for. Their goal is simply to replace one form of petty racial and gender discrimination AKA quotas and "affirmative action" with yet another, trapping commonsense centrists and genuine liberals like me between a rock and a hard place and forcing us to choose between the lesser of two extremes, a key feature of democracies with a deeply polarizing, first-past-the-post, two-party system, which both Malaysia and America possess and the UK exported around the world to everyone's detriment. What a fucking disappointment.

The Democrats don't deserve to win from a strictly moral standpoint, and if they do win, it's only because Trump dun goofed BIG TIME on the coronavirus and set himself up to be a loser and a very sore one at that. He doesn't deserve to win either at the rate he's alienating moderates and hemorrhaging support with his deadly, anti-scientific posturing and the amount of American blood he has on his hands right now.


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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:26 am

Telconi wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
These sound like great people.


Supporting sexual abuse to own the cons...

Sorry but "Own the cons" is so cringey it makes my eyes hurt reading it
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:28 am

Vassenor wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:I just read two, absolutely cringe-inducing articles by Malaysiakini consisting of nothing but endless fawning over Kamala Harris and identitarian virtue-signaling about her race and gender. What is with the MSM today? This is turning out to be an exact repeat of four years ago when the media fawned uncritically over Hillary Clinton and everyone else was just a "bunch of deplorables". It's almost as if they haven't learned a damned thing these four years and it's frustrating as hell. I was just reminded of the role she played in the politically-motivated, misandrist witch hunt of then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Now I remember why I dislike her and a number of other U.S. Senators so much. For a so-called, "moderate" centrist like her, she is as much an insufferable, woke, virtue-signaling feminist as all the other radical far-leftists who have roundly and openly denigrated half the human population solely on account of their gender. Her presidency will likely translate to a rollback of some of the significant gains that have been made by men's rights activists under the current Trump administration.

Kamala Harris' selection as VP nominee has really turned me off of supporting Joe Biden and the Democrats. Good job Joe. It's almost as if you want to lose despite Trump's rightly and understandably abysmal poll ratings. It really makes my stomach churn. If not for the coronavirus pandemic and the battered U.S. economy, I think I might be leaning in favor of backing Trump at this point as would millions of moderates and centrists in the United States who otherwise remain undecided over who to support.

Meanwhile, so-called "liberal" Malaysians appear to have been completely taken in by this disgusting, woke, identitarian nonsense. One Malaysian commentator had this to say:



This lady right here has a problem with male leadership per se. Just imagine what the reaction would be if some male conservative activist complained about an "overdrive of female leadership across the board" or demanded quotas and affirmative action for men in decision-making positions. The misogynist prick would've been CANCELED on the spot! This feminist double standard right here is downright reprehensible and these people should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. After all, the Democrats support EXACTLY the same kind of discriminatory, racist, sexist policies that UMNO and PAS have been practicing for DECADES in Malaysia: Special rights and affirmative action for a select group of people due to "historical grievances", "systemic racism/sexism". For the former, it's women, blacks, Muslims, and other hitherto "oppressed" groups. For the latter, it's Malays and Muslims. In both America and Malaysia, Muslims benefit tremendously from a very high degree of undeserved public sympathy borne solely of identity-based, oppression Olympics and evil, Christian white men/non-Muslim Malaysian Chinese. The Malaysian far-right and the American far-left have far more in common with each other than they think. Fascism and Marxism are really two sides of the same, extremist coin and something has GOT to give.

These so-called "liberal" Malaysians ought to know better. They should be comparing UMNO and PAS to the Democrats rather than to Trump. They don't understand what ACTUAL meritocracy stands for. Their goal is simply to replace one form of petty racial and gender discrimination AKA quotas and "affirmative action" with yet another, trapping commonsense centrists and genuine liberals like me between a rock and a hard place and forcing us to choose between the lesser of two extremes, a key feature of democracies with a deeply polarizing, first-past-the-post, two-party system, which both Malaysia and America possess and the UK exported around the world to everyone's detriment. What a fucking disappointment.

The Democrats don't deserve to win from a strictly moral standpoint, and if they do win, it's only because Trump dun goofed BIG TIME on the coronavirus and set himself up to be a loser and a very sore one at that. He doesn't deserve to win either at the rate he's alienating moderates and hemorrhaging support with his deadly, anti-scientific posturing and the amount of American blood he has on his hands right now.


So what are we defining as "insufferable, woke, virtue-signaling" today?

I think it’s supporting someone purely for their race and gender without regard for their political actions. The particular woman who he linked was saying "there are too many men in power," which is sexism
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:28 am

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Might be interesting if your boy was clean. What’s he up to now? 16 claims? Of course we don’t know how many others were paid off....
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:29 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So what are we defining as "insufferable, woke, virtue-signaling" today?

I think it’s supporting someone purely for their race and gender without regard for their political actions. The particular woman who he linked was saying "there are too many men in power," which is sexism


There aren’t that many men in power?
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:30 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:I think it’s supporting someone purely for their race and gender without regard for their political actions. The particular woman who he linked was saying "there are too many men in power," which is sexism


There aren’t that many men in power?

I don’t see how there can be "too many" men in power. At least if you believe both genders are equal and the difference is just genitalia, then saying there’s too many of a certain gender in power is sexist.
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