2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Oh right I forgot politicians aren't allowed to change their stances.

If people shouldn't hold Biden to his past actions in politics, does that mean that Trump should not be held to his actions as President? Politicians are, after all, allowed to change their stances.

There's a difference between nearly 20 years, and 4 years.

That said, some of Trump's more racist opinions of 4 years ago didn't come to pass. We should be glad of that.

[Vassenor]

If people shouldn't hold Biden to his past actions in politics, does that mean that Trump should not be held to his actions as President? Politicians are, after all, allowed to change their stances.

To be fair-ish, his stances haven't really changed.

But that gets in the way of insisting that Biden is exactly the same as he was four years ago in spite of Sanders very publicly pushing him leftward.

[The Emerald Legion]

To be fair-ish, his stances haven't really changed.

But that gets in the way of insisting that Biden is exactly the same as he was four years ago in spite of Sanders very publicly pushing him leftward.

... Not really no? Bidens the same as ever.

[United States of Devonta]

Nor will the Democrats

House Oversight chair introduces new bill to reverse organizational changes at USPS

A new bill aimed at reversing organizational and structural changes undertaken at the United States Postal Service by the new postmaster general was introduced to Congress Wednesday.

The Delivering for America Act, introduced by House Oversight and Reform chairwoman Carolyn Maloney of New York, is the latest action over the agency's cutbacks and slow mail service ahead of the 2020 election in November that is already upended by the coronavirus pandemic. Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a Republican donor and ally to the President, on Friday announced a hiring freeze on leadership positions in the agency and a reorganization of top leaders.

The new procedures for the USPS were laid out in a memo in July and include hours being cut back within the agency. Overtime, including late trips and extra trips by USPS workers, is no longer authorized or accepted, according to the memo.

This is explained as a cost-cutting measure that could save the financially struggling USPS around $200 million. The memo also states any mail left behind will be reported with the "root causes" of the delays addressed the next day, with the intention of the volume of delayed mail shrinking over time, but the reality of that remains unclear as the changes are new.

Maloney's proposal would "prohibit the Postal Service from implementing any changes to the operations or level of service it had in place on January 1, 2020" until the coronavirus pandemic has ended.

Stop your're scaring him Patrik!

[Kannap]

Trump's admitted the only reason he's fucking over the USPS is to block mail-in voting.

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

[-Ra-]

Trump's admitted the only reason he's fucking over the USPS is to block mail-in voting.

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[No State Here]

To be fair-ish, his stances haven't really changed.

But that gets in the way of insisting that Biden is exactly the same as he was four years ago in spite of Sanders very publicly pushing him leftward.

At the very least presidency won’t go to an actual leftist, not saying I like Biden but I’ll take a Biden presidency any day over the shitshow that will be Sanders.

[United States of Devonta]

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Based on what data? "Meh 2016"?

[Kannap]

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I doubt it, but 2020 has been packed with surprises

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Trump's 5 points behind in Florida anyway. Elderly voters holding back because he scared them would be on top of that.

Bluster and insisting you're right despite all the evidence doesn't work for Trump. What makes you think it will work for you?

[United States of Devonta]

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I doubt it, but 2020 has been packed with surprises

It's still anyone's race

[San Lumen]

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

If Republicans let him get away with gutting the post office he will

[Kannap]

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

If Republicans let him get away with gutting the post office he will

Ah, might as well give up now, with that attitude

[San Lumen]

If Republicans let him get away with gutting the post office he will

Ah, might as well give up now, with that attitude

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

[Telconi]

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

If Republicans let him get away with gutting the post office he will

WTF, I hate the mail now...

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Ah, might as well give up now, with that attitude

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

What if they do receive the ballot, fill it in and mail it back promptly ... but they still don't know if it will be counted?

They can't vote in person, without risk of committing electoral fraud.

People need to decide early whether they're voting postal or in-person.

[San Lumen]

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

What if they do receive the ballot, fill it in and mail it back promptly ... but they still don't know if it will be counted?

They can't vote in person, without risk of committing electoral fraud.

People need to decide early whether they're voting postal or in-person.

That’s the problem with what Trump is doing. I’m saying if they don’t get it to vote in person

[Andsed]

Can't wait for him to lose Florida and help Biden win by scaring his retired elderly voters from mailing their ballots

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

What data do you have that makes you able to make such a conclusive prediction?

[Kannap]

Ah, might as well give up now, with that attitude

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

And we'll see COVID transmission and deaths because of it. Also will have to anticipate people being scared to vote because of that.

What do you think should be done there?

[San Lumen]

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

And we'll see COVID transmission and deaths because of it. Also will have to anticipate people being scared to vote because of that.

What do you think should be done there?

I really don’t know but the integrity of the election is too important to put into words. Voting in person does ensure the vote will be counted

[Vassenor]

I’m not but this is why as many polling places as possible need to be open so people can vote in person if they do not receive an absentee ballot they requested

What if they do receive the ballot, fill it in and mail it back promptly ... but they still don't know if it will be counted?

They can't vote in person, without risk of committing electoral fraud.

People need to decide early whether they're voting postal or in-person.

Would it be possible to include such concerns as reasons for requesting a provisional ballot?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What if they do receive the ballot, fill it in and mail it back promptly ... but they still don't know if it will be counted?

They can't vote in person, without risk of committing electoral fraud.

People need to decide early whether they're voting postal or in-person.

Would it be possible to include such concerns as reasons for requesting a provisional ballot?

I don't understand the provisional ballot, sorry.

[San Lumen]

What if they do receive the ballot, fill it in and mail it back promptly ... but they still don't know if it will be counted?

They can't vote in person, without risk of committing electoral fraud.

People need to decide early whether they're voting postal or in-person.

Would it be possible to include such concerns as reasons for requesting a provisional ballot?

A provisional ballot also known as a affidavit is only given if a voter can not be found in the poll roster book. They are only given out at the polling site

[-Ra-]

Trump is going to win this election anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I doubt it, but 2020 has been packed with surprises

People said that in 2016, and yet he won.

BuT tHiS TiMe i'LL bE RiGhT!

[Telconi]

Would it be possible to include such concerns as reasons for requesting a provisional ballot?

A provisional ballot also known as a affidavit is only given if a voter can not be found in the poll roster book. They are only given out at the polling site

Or if you cannot vote in-precinct. But no, concern over a mailed ballot would not allow you to cast a provisional, because you've already cast a vote.