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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:05 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Polls are now closed in Minnesota and Wisconsin.


Isn't Omar in a tough primary fight by what I hear? She appears to be the most vulnerable of "The Squad" members.


If being ahead by about 30 points in the latest polls is vulnerable, then you could say so.
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:05 pm

Cisairse wrote:It hurt typing this one out

Bloomberg: Kamala Harris Is Now the Democratic Mainstream

I never expected Biden to pick someone cool and evidently I was right not to. It makes me happier with my decision to back Howie.
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:06 pm

Image
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

I officially endorse Fivey Fox for president of the United States.

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Dresderstan
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:06 pm

Yeah sorry Shrill but I'm making an call for this

GOP GA-14 Runoff: Marjorie Greene

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Postby Uiiop » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:08 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Polls are now closed in Minnesota and Wisconsin.


Isn't Omar in a tough primary fight by what I hear? She appears to be the most vulnerable of "The Squad" members.

pretty sure the hard part was Tlaib's and Markey's primary fight.
#NSTransparency

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:09 pm

Aye, I'll add it.

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GOP GA-14 Runoff(Rome-Dalton): Marjorie Taylor Greene
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:10 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Isn't Omar in a tough primary fight by what I hear? She appears to be the most vulnerable of "The Squad" members.


If being ahead by about 30 points in the latest polls is vulnerable, then you could say so.


Well then, she'll be fine.

Cisairse wrote:(Image)


Totally accurate.

Uiiop wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Isn't Omar in a tough primary fight by what I hear? She appears to be the most vulnerable of "The Squad" members.

pretty sure the hard part was Tlaib's and Markey's primary fight.


Markey seems to be the most vulnerable based on a few polls I've seen: support between him and Kennedy has been going back-and-forth. That would be an upset should Markey lose.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:10 pm

I hope Republicans are happy this utter lunatic and racist will be in their caucus come January

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... p-n1236356
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:10 pm

Cisairse wrote:It hurt typing this one out

Bloomberg: Kamala Harris Is Now the Democratic Mainstream

The Democratic mainstream is now everything that the Democratic Party claims to be against.

You can't make this shit up...
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:I hope Republicans are happy this utter lunatic and racist will be in their caucus come January https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... p-n1236356


They aren't. The national party wanted Cowan to win, but they didn't do much besides make endorsements, and I think it's because Trump refused to change his mind on her.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:I hope Republicans are happy this utter lunatic and racist will be in their caucus come January

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... p-n1236356

Stop trying to paint Republicans as happy about this, it's fucking annoying and obnoxious.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:12 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope Republicans are happy this utter lunatic and racist will be in their caucus come January https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... p-n1236356


They aren't. The national party wanted Cowan to win, but they didn't do much besides make endorsements, and I think it's because Trump refused to change his mind on her.


Doesn't matter now. She is going to win in November and by a very wide margin, Republican primary voters seem intent on nominating whomever is most insane
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
They aren't. The national party wanted Cowan to win, but they didn't do much besides make endorsements, and I think it's because Trump refused to change his mind on her.


Doesn't matter now. She is going to win in November and by a very wide margin, Republican primary voters seem intent on nominating whomever is most insane

You act as if it was 100% deliberate and all of them wanted it.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:14 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Doesn't matter now. She is going to win in November and by a very wide margin, Republican primary voters seem intent on nominating whomever is most insane

You act as if it was 100% deliberate and all of them wanted it.

A decent margin apparently did.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:15 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I hope Republicans are happy this utter lunatic and racist will be in their caucus come January

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... p-n1236356

Stop trying to paint Republicans as happy about this, it's fucking annoying and obnoxious.

But national political parties are a hivemind!

Just ask the Bernie Bros...
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:You act as if it was 100% deliberate and all of them wanted it.

A decent margin apparently did.

So? What point are you fucking trying to make?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:16 pm

From another thread but appropriate to explain some of Kamala’s baggage:

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Genivaria wrote:Found this on FB, copy-pasted.
OH BOY, KAMALA!
-She supported a law that forces schools to turn undocumented students over to ICE, separating them from their parents. source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-h ... 166204509b
-Supported and funded a bill that would criminalize truancy, disproportionately harming single parent households, the poor, families of color and homeless mothers. source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-h ... bfa1b57d2e
https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/statu ... 98464?s=20
-Declined to prosecute Steven Mnuchin after his bank’s predatory lending and foreclosure fraud broke the law “over a thousand” times and ruined the lives of thousands of homeowners. source:
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/03/tre ... aked-memo/
...he later donated to her campaign source:
https://www.rollcall.com/2017/02/14/har ... m-mnuchin/
-She spent years jailing disproportionately black nonviolent cannabis users source:
https://afropunk.com/2019/01/kamala-har ... not-crime/
she then tried to pander by admitting to smoking herself despite prosecuting others source:
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala- ... e-in-2019/
-Stopped the release of a man serving 27 years-to-life after being wrongfully convicted of possession of a knife under the three-strikes law she supported. source:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kama ... ey-general
...and when civil rights groups and nearly 100,000 petition signatures got him released after 14 years she took him back to court again for a crime he didn’t commit source:
https://www.scpr.org/news/2013/07/31/38 ... in-appeal/
-Opposed reforming California’s three-strikes law, which is the only one in the country to impose life sentences for minor felonies and incarcerates black people at 12x the rate as white people source:
https://www.thenation.com/article/archi ... e-strikes/
...she opposed the law THREE different times source:
https://www.thenation.com/article/archi ... e-strikes/
-Protected serial child rapists by refusing to prosecute in the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal source:
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/kam ... ild-abuse/
-Tried to deny a transgender inmate healthcare and endangered trans women by forcing them into mens prisons. source:
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/05 ... ns-inmate/
-Stood by silently as $730 million was spent on moving inmates to for-profit private prisons source:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/08/29/ ... -standoff/
-Voted two different times to block federal funding for abortions source:
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/pl ... ion-443667
-She supports Trump escalating war in Syria source:
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/24/bipa ... hezbollah/
-Voted to give Trump increased military spending source:
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/23 ... QQgLtNKifQ
...she did that TWICE:
https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/25 ... QQhV9NKifQ
-Mocks the activist call to “build more schools, less jails” source:
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/statu ... 40800?s=20
-Accepted thousands of dollars of campaign funds from Donald and Ivanka Trump multiple times source:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-go ... 75319.html
-Opposed legalization of sex work source:
http://www.laweekly.com/a-new-movement- ... la-harris/
...endangered sex workers source:
https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a ... less-safe/
...and oversaw people being charged for prostitution without even agreeing to sex source:
https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfranci ... id=2177526
-Refused to investigate Herbalife’s exploitation and fraud source:
https://freebeacon.com/politics/kamala- ... -the-hook/
...and, conveniently enough, later received donations from people connected to the corporation source:
https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/ ... -kamala-h/
-Refused to prosecute PG&E for its massive gas pipeline explosion source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/p ... itics.html
...and now its consultants are running her campaign source:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/ ... gn-1116076
-Is a latecomer in endorsing Medicare for All and already appears to be backtracking on it source:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics ... index.html
-Supports foreign right-wing influences Netanyahu and AIPAC
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kam ... ael-aipac/
-Systematically violated defendants’ civil and constitutional rights” in crime lab scandal source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
-Co-sponsored the bill that let Trump impose sanctions on Iran source:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... e=expanded
...which violated the nuclear deal and lead to the currently rising tensions source:
https://archive.thinkprogress.org/media ... 7a0e5743a/
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:16 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A decent margin apparently did.

So? What point are you fucking trying to make?

That the crazies are taking over the party and are outvoting the non crazies

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:16 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A decent margin apparently did.

So? What point are you fucking trying to make?


Nobody wants it but it's still happening and nobody is against it on that side. :roll:

Say what you will about us at least I/we wrote strongly worded letters to the Biden campaign about how fucking retarded he is.

>When MITT ROMNEY is the one with integrity
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Postby US-SSR » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:16 pm

BIDEN / HARRIS 2020

HARRIS / AOC 2024, 2028
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We're not going to control the pandemic!

It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:So? What point are you fucking trying to make?


Nobody wants it but it's still happening and nobody is against it on that side. :roll:

Say what you will about us at least I/we wrote strongly worded letters to the Biden campaign about how fucking retarded he is.

funny how almost everyone I know its happy about the pick. Your not a majority by a long shot

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Postby Cordel One » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:17 pm

If anyone here is starting to get disillusioned with bourgeoise electoralism, feel free to join us over at the left

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:So? What point are you fucking trying to make?


Nobody wants it but it's still happening and nobody is against it on that side. :roll:

Say what you will about us at least I/we wrote strongly worded letters to the Biden campaign about how fucking retarded he is.

>When MITT ROMNEY is the one with integrity

"nobody" yes because everyone one one side is becoming crazy :roll:

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Nobody wants it but it's still happening and nobody is against it on that side. :roll:

Say what you will about us at least I/we wrote strongly worded letters to the Biden campaign about how fucking retarded he is.

funny how almost everyone I know its happy about the pick. Your not a majority by a long shot


Lumen, since when has NSG ever been at the mainstream of American politics?
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:18 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:funny how almost everyone I know its happy about the pick. Your not a majority by a long shot


Lumen, since when has NSG ever been at the mainstream of American politics?

I can answer this, uhhh never.

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