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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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United States of Devonta
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:04 pm

Saiwania wrote:We should be hoping for Trump to be reelected but for there to be a Democratic House or Senate but not both. That way we can reign in Trump's worst instincts but still have him as a useful puppet. If Trump goes too far, we can perhaps have Pence become President. He's a more reasonable fellow like Mitt Romney would've been.


BREAKING: Biden announces Black running mate

Saiw: Vote for Trump. Colored me surprised lol
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Postby Nakena » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:


Thinking on this more, who exactly is Harris supposed to appeal to? Her tough on crime authoritarian history is gonna turn off more progressives and liberals than it wins over and her being a very blatantly token pick is gonna turn off fence sitting right wingers who might have been won over by the former.


Suburbian Karens who are afraid of BLM.

The VP pick basically destroys Trumps argument that Biden is in alliance with anarcho-communist antifa insurgents and would dissolve the police when he comes to office and allow black gangs to come and burn down your house etc.

Now with Harris, he cannot believeably pull this card anymore. In fact given Trumps record, him being as the last line of defense against total communism was his last selling and biggest point. It's no longer there. Things look now very grim for Trump.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:04 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
https://youtu.be/Kh_wQUjeaTk

The comment section in this video doesn't seem very pro kamala, her approval rating is low in cali and no black person i know remotely likes her.

I'm pretty sure this is another example of how Biden has no respect nor understanding for the average black american, and thinks they only vote baser on skin color.


Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?


Older and middle class. Poor black folks in the slums know what she's about.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
https://youtu.be/Kh_wQUjeaTk

The comment section in this video doesn't seem very pro kamala, her approval rating is low in cali and no black person i know remotely likes her.

I'm pretty sure this is another example of how Biden has no respect nor understanding for the average black american, and thinks they only vote baser on skin color.


Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?

Um she got 1% with black people in the primaries
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Nakena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thinking on this more, who exactly is Harris supposed to appeal to? Her tough on crime authoritarian history is gonna turn off more progressives and liberals than it wins over and her being a very blatantly token pick is gonna turn off fence sitting right wingers who might have been won over by the former.


Suburbian Karens who are afraid of BLM.

She basically destroys Trumps argument that Biden is in alliance with anarcho-communist antifa insurgents and would dissolve the police when he comes to office and allow black gangs to come and burn down your house etc.

Now with Harris, he cannot believeably pull this card anymore. In fact given Trumps record, him being as the last line of defense against total communism was his last selling point. It's no longer there. It will hurt Trump.


Trumper's are non-ironically doing this on tweeter still and not realizing the irony
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm

Nakena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thinking on this more, who exactly is Harris supposed to appeal to? Her tough on crime authoritarian history is gonna turn off more progressives and liberals than it wins over and her being a very blatantly token pick is gonna turn off fence sitting right wingers who might have been won over by the former.


Suburbian Karens who are afraid of BLM.

The VP pick basically destroys Trumps argument that Biden is in alliance with anarcho-communist antifa insurgents and would dissolve the police when he comes to office and allow black gangs to come and burn down your house etc.

Now with Harris, he cannot believeably pull this card anymore. In fact given Trumps record, him being as the last line of defense against total communism was his last selling and biggest point. It's no longer there. Things look now very grim for Trump.


So basically now you got a candidate who will do all the same things as trump, but he'll be a nice guy and pretend he isn't and you can support him and sleep easy at night.

That's pretty fucked up.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:05 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?

Um she got 1% with black people in the primaries


I wasen't talking about primaries. She dropped out pretty early.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?

Um she got 1% with black people in the primaries


Oof
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Um she got 1% with black people in the primaries


I wasen't talking about primaries. She dropped out pretty early.


She dropped out after Gabbard sank her on live TV.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?


Older and middle class. Poor black folks in the slums know what she's about.

Nobody gives a shit about the poors
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Almost every progressive policy picked is literally lower tier goals. Biden still doesn't want to legalize marijuana (which he has railed against for years and only made worse with his crime bill), still doesn't want M4A, doesn't want a moratorium on the death penalty, doesn't want to forgive student loan debt (which he helped exacerbate terribly), and more!


I can understand decriminalizing marijuana but why legalize it? What are its merits, asides from not being as hard as cocaine, meth, or heroin (among other drugs) in terms of its ruinous side effects?

Benefits: It's fun

Other merits: We shouldn't outlaw things just because they smell bad
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:07 pm

Lmao, Harris? The lady who Tulsi Gabbard (who should be the Democratic nominee) absolutely wiped the floor with in the debates? :rofl:

What a bad pick. Its just trying to get people to vote for a black lady!

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:07 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Tyrassueb wrote:Almost every progressive policy picked is literally lower tier goals. Biden still doesn't want to legalize marijuana (which he has railed against for years and only made worse with his crime bill), still doesn't want M4A, doesn't want a moratorium on the death penalty, doesn't want to forgive student loan debt (which he helped exacerbate terribly), and more!


I can understand decriminalizing marijuana but why legalize it? What are its merits, asides from not being as hard as cocaine, meth, or heroin (among other drugs) in terms of its ruinous side effects?


It reduces pain and nausea and depression.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:07 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Honestly, a youtube comment section doesn't prove anything.

That being said, I know like one black person who likes her. And I ain't that person. All ik is polls stated black Dems wanted her. Maybe the older blacks?

Um she got 1% with black people in the primaries

Because the other 99% went to our second black president
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Lmao, Harris? The lady who Tulsi Gabbard (who should be the Democratic nominee) absolutely wiped the floor with in the debates? :rofl:

What a bad pick. Its just trying to get people to vote for a black lady!


Harris' chances to be at the Whitehouse should have ended that night.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Maybe not the selling of the harder drugs but definitely the consumption of it. Charging and punishing an addict is not really helpful.

The addicts would get sent to state funded rehab

(drugs need to be criminalized for you to do that)
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:08 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I can understand decriminalizing marijuana but why legalize it? What are its merits, asides from not being as hard as cocaine, meth, or heroin (among other drugs) in terms of its ruinous side effects?


It reduces pain and nausea and depression.

Sounds like right now is a great time to light up
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:09 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The addicts would get sent to state funded rehab

(drugs need to be criminalized for you to do that)

Not really. Portugal has done it
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:09 pm

Upper Nan wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Stop this bullshit, Hillary Clinton was one of the most loved politicians in America before she ran for president. She left her Secretary of State position with a higher approval rating than President Obama.

Do you have any actual data on that?

I have literally already posted data for that
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:10 pm

Upper Nan wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Image

Literally just google "Hillary Clinton approval rating," this is very well documented. America suddenly hated Hillary Clinton when she ran for president in 2008, loved her as Secretary of State, and then suddenly hated her again when she ran for president in 2016.

And why do you think that might be? *cough*"Basket of deplorables"*cough*

Mostly sexism and hysteria perpetuated by the GOP and, more recently, online conspiracy theories.

And the "basket of deplorables" speech was a rhetorical high point for her, despite what the media tried to portray it as.
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:11 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Thinking on this more, who exactly is Harris supposed to appeal to?


Joe Biden
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:15 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Upper Nan wrote:It was more just offering one example among many.


Is it hard to hate Hillary clinton? She takes foreign donations from the saudis, threatened her husband's victims into silence, was friends with epstein and weinstein, and supported the Iraq war and every war since.

I guarantee you the average Hillary-hater knows about literally 0 of the things you just listed.

People like you and me, we are abnormal Hillary-haters.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:15 pm

Speaking of legalising drugs, that's actually the newest addition to the Plaza.

Arizona: Prop 207 would legalise the sale, use, and cultivation of marijuana in Arizona. People could own up to six plants of their own as long as they are kept secure in an enclosed, locked area away from public view. A 16% tax on sales would be imposed with money from the tax going to community colleges(33%), municipal police and fire departments(31.4%), highways(25.4%), the justice reinvestment fund(10%) and enforcement by the state Attorney General(0.2%). Local governments could still ban marijuana if they wish, and people with marijuana-related felonies can request expungement starting on July 12, 2021.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:16 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Upper Nan wrote:And why do you think that might be? *cough*"Basket of deplorables"*cough*

Mostly sexism and hysteria perpetuated by the GOP and, more recently, online conspiracy theories.

And the "basket of deplorables" speech was a rhetorical high point for her, despite what the media tried to portray it as.


Sexism? Really? Hillary Clinton is a crook. Her being hated isn't because she's a female crook.
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:17 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Lmao, Harris? The lady who Tulsi Gabbard (who should be the Democratic nominee) absolutely wiped the floor with in the debates? :rofl:

What a bad pick. Its just trying to get people to vote for a black lady!

Ironically Tulsi Gabbard isn't the nominee mainly because Kamala Harris wiped the floor with her during the next debate.
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