2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Cisairse]

By voting for a guy whose veep put innocent black men behind bars and fought to keep them there? You tell me, because i think if one truly cared, they would never sign up for that.

And who would you vote? Based on your views, Biden was never going to get your note no matter the VP choice.

Karen Bass would have been fantastic.

[Cannot think of a name]

And who would you vote? Based on your views, Biden was never going to get your note no matter the VP choice.

I voted for bernie. I would have voted for yang or Warren or gabbard too. I originally wanted Richard Ojeda. I was willing to compromise with biden if he picked Warren or duckworth. Instead he did this, so I'm not voting. I think it's been made abundantly clear that many people would rather virtue signal about wanting change than actually taking steps toward it.

I would argue that sitting on your hands and having a snit during an election is quite the large virtue signal if we're playing that game.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I voted for bernie. I would have voted for yang or Warren or gabbard too. I originally wanted Richard Ojeda. I was willing to compromise with biden if he picked Warren or duckworth. Instead he did this, so I'm not voting. I think it's been made abundantly clear that many people would rather virtue signal about wanting change than actually taking steps toward it.

Supported Warren, but will vote Biden regardless.

You know people like biden made trump possible right?

Why would you solve trump by going back to the fake old days when our government did 80% of the evil things he does but lied to us about it?

[Zurkerx]

I agree: she plays Harris quite well. I'll be looking more forward to SNL now.

Also, Trump is already calling Harris the "Radical Left", calling a Harris "Phony Kamala" and attacking Biden's intelligence by calling him "Slow Joe". The phony isn't catchy but the Slow part is. Eh, we'll have to see how polling goes these next couple of weeks.

It's why I chuckle to myself when someone dismissed a VP pick based on the mean things that Trump would say about them. Dude, it's an election. There wasn't going to be a VP pick where Trump was going to go, "Oh, them? I guess we should pack it in, folks."

I don't think it will really make much of a difference in the end. If you somehow think that the VP pick is powerful enough to mean that a Biden presidency is in anyway comparable to the 24/7 shitshow that we've been living under for the last four years...well...I'm not sure that's a big coalition. I'm not shaming them, vote your conscience. There just isn't enough undecideds to convince me that it's the tear my shirt and cry to an uncaring universe bad as some might think.

Certainly, I just would like to see how this all plays out. After all, VPs usually don't matter but I suspect Trump will try to make it as such. I won't deny there was going to be that perfect VP. However, there were certainly far better choices, which is why a lot us of here aren't the happiest bunch. Then again, he probably sees something in her that we don't, but I now have Biden's chances at 50/50.

But you're also right that there are a less undecideds/third party voters: at this point, I think it was like 16-20% in that category; today it's around 8-10%. Of course, I view a Biden-Harris ticket as less palpable then Trump-Pence, but I'll need to be convinced to vote for Biden-Harris: they're going to have to work to get my vote.

[Outer Sparta]

And who would you vote? Based on your views, Biden was never going to get your note no matter the VP choice.

Karen Bass would have been fantastic.

Tbh I haven't heard of her before the VP speculation this year. She was also up there with my preferred VP pick along with Warren and Duckworth. It would have be nice to have them, but my position isn't changing.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I voted for bernie. I would have voted for yang or Warren or gabbard too. I originally wanted Richard Ojeda. I was willing to compromise with biden if he picked Warren or duckworth. Instead he did this, so I'm not voting. I think it's been made abundantly clear that many people would rather virtue signal about wanting change than actually taking steps toward it.

I would argue that sitting on your hands and having a snit during an election is quite the large virtue signal if we're playing that game.

Yeah, I should vote for a crooked prosecutor and crooked cop instead. That'll bring real change.

No, you wanna know where ill be? Protesting. Like I did and will always do. I've lost faith in this system completely like millions of others, and Biden and Harris won't be any sort of savior.

[New haven america]

God, I hope McGrath wins...I don't like her, but I like him even less and I'm sick of seeing his turtle face on my local news.

Imagine Mitch McConnell actually losing. Now that is a pipe dream.

There is actually a massive push to get McConnel out of office, and this time it has some legs to stand on considering his new nickname is [Redacted due to possible mod warning but involves the capital city of the largest country in the world] Mitch.

[Outer Sparta]

It's why I chuckle to myself when someone dismissed a VP pick based on the mean things that Trump would say about them. Dude, it's an election. There wasn't going to be a VP pick where Trump was going to go, "Oh, them? I guess we should pack it in, folks."

I don't think it will really make much of a difference in the end. If you somehow think that the VP pick is powerful enough to mean that a Biden presidency is in anyway comparable to the 24/7 shitshow that we've been living under for the last four years...well...I'm not sure that's a big coalition. I'm not shaming them, vote your conscience. There just isn't enough undecideds to convince me that it's the tear my shirt and cry to an uncaring universe bad as some might think.

Certainly, I just would like to see how this all plays out. After all, VPs usually don't matter but I suspect Trump will try to make it as such. I won't deny there was going to be that perfect VP. However, there were certainly far better choices, which is why a lot us of here aren't the happiest bunch. Then again, he probably sees something in her that we don't, but I now have Biden's chances at 50/50.

But you're also right that there are a less undecideds/third party voters: at this point, I think it was like 16-20% in that category; today it's around 8-10%. Of course, I view a Biden-Harris ticket as less palpable then Trump-Pence, but I'll need to be convinced to vote for Biden-Harris: they're going to have to work to get my vote.

Imagine the Trump campaign overreacting and selecting Nikki Haley to replace Pence as VP. That Nikki Haley, who complained on Twitter about popcorn not being delivered for her nephew's birthday.

[Major-Tom]

And who would you vote? Based on your views, Biden was never going to get your note no matter the VP choice.

Karen Bass would have been fantastic.

Karen Bass, I'll concede this to you, is a stellar individual.

I do wonder whether the whole Cuba thing would've stuck, particularly in Florida where Cuban-Americans seem more willing now to vote Democratic so long as they are more neoconservative.

[Cisairse]

Imagine Mitch McConnell actually losing. Now that is a pipe dream.

There is actually a massive push to get McConnel out of office, and this time it has some legs to stand on considering his new nickname is [Redacted due to possible mod warning but involves the capital city of the largest country in the world] Mitch.

Beijing Mitch? Doesn't really have a ring to it.

Wait did you mean by land area?

[Outer Sparta]

There is actually a massive push to get McConnel out of office, and this time it has some legs to stand on considering his new nickname is [Redacted due to possible mod warning but involves the capital city of the largest country in the world] Mitch.

Beijing Mitch? Doesn't really have a ring to it.

Wait did you mean by land area?

Nah the city attached to it was Moscow, not Beijing. That was a big trend earlier in the year and in 2019.

[New haven america]

There is actually a massive push to get McConnel out of office, and this time it has some legs to stand on considering his new nickname is [Redacted due to possible mod warning but involves the capital city of the largest country in the world] Mitch.

Beijing Mitch? Doesn't really have a ring to it.

Wait did you mean by land area?

China has not for the past 300 or so years been the largest country in the world, it's currently 3/4 along with the US.

[Cisairse]

Certainly, I just would like to see how this all plays out. After all, VPs usually don't matter but I suspect Trump will try to make it as such. I won't deny there was going to be that perfect VP. However, there were certainly far better choices, which is why a lot us of here aren't the happiest bunch. Then again, he probably sees something in her that we don't, but I now have Biden's chances at 50/50.

But you're also right that there are a less undecideds/third party voters: at this point, I think it was like 16-20% in that category; today it's around 8-10%. Of course, I view a Biden-Harris ticket as less palpable then Trump-Pence, but I'll need to be convinced to vote for Biden-Harris: they're going to have to work to get my vote.

Imagine the Trump campaign overreacting and selecting Nikki Haley to replace Pence as VP. That Nikki Haley, who complained on Twitter about popcorn not being delivered for her nephew's birthday.

When Trump was asked what he thought of Vice President Harris at his briefing today, his response was "Well I would much prefer Vice President Pence."

Bolton said that he considered dropping Pence from the ticket in 2018 but decided against it for a number of reasons, chiefly that Pence will still help the demographics that Haley won't, and that Pence has been loyal to Trump.

[Outer Sparta]

Karen Bass would have been fantastic.

Karen Bass, I'll concede this to you, is a stellar individual.

I do wonder whether the whole Cuba thing would've stuck, particularly in Florida where Cuban-Americans seem more willing now to vote Democratic so long as they are more neoconservative.

Aren't younger Cubans voting Democratic while the older ones are in a 2-1 split for Republicans?

[Aureumterra]

Imagine Mitch McConnell actually losing. Now that is a pipe dream.

There is actually a massive push to get McConnel out of office, and this time it has some legs to stand on considering his new nickname is [Redacted due to possible mod warning but involves the capital city of the largest country in the world] Mitch.

That’s half a year old

[Cisairse]

Beijing Mitch? Doesn't really have a ring to it.

Wait did you mean by land area?

China has not for the past 300 or so years been the largest country in the world, it's currently 3/4 along with the US.

So you did mean land area?

Usually when I hear "largest country" I assume population

[Outer Sparta]

Imagine the Trump campaign overreacting and selecting Nikki Haley to replace Pence as VP. That Nikki Haley, who complained on Twitter about popcorn not being delivered for her nephew's birthday.

When Trump was asked what he thought of Vice President Harris at his briefing today, his response was "Well I would much prefer Vice President Pence."

Bolton said that he considered dropping Pence from the ticket in 2018 but decided against it for a number of reasons, chiefly that Pence will still help the demographics that Haley won't, and that Pence has been loyal to Trump.

Pence certainly ups the evangelical voting bloc and gets them motivated.

[Cannot think of a name]

I would argue that sitting on your hands and having a snit during an election is quite the large virtue signal if we're playing that game.

Yeah, I should vote for a crooked prosecutor and crooked cop instead. That'll bring real change.

No, you wanna know where ill be? Protesting. Like I did and will always do. I've lost faith in this system completely like millions of others, and Biden and Harris won't be any sort of savior.

If you've been looking for a savior you've set yourself up for disappointment.

[Tyrassueb]

Not voting this year. The area I live in won't vote for anyone on the ticket that I would prefer, my state will go Biden-Harris though since it's nowhere near what one would call "a swing state" and I get to have the worst of both situations - local politicians doing stuff I hate and federal politicians doing stuff I hate. Least I can do is make my voice heard via not voting.

[Cisairse]

When Trump was asked what he thought of Vice President Harris at his briefing today, his response was "Well I would much prefer Vice President Pence."

Bolton said that he considered dropping Pence from the ticket in 2018 but decided against it for a number of reasons, chiefly that Pence will still help the demographics that Haley won't, and that Pence has been loyal to Trump.

Pence certainly ups the evangelical voting bloc and gets them motivated.

More importantly than that, he gets them to not abandon Trump.

[San Lumen]

I would argue that sitting on your hands and having a snit during an election is quite the large virtue signal if we're playing that game.

Yeah, I should vote for a crooked prosecutor and crooked cop instead. That'll bring real change.

No, you wanna know where ill be? Protesting. Like I did and will always do. I've lost faith in this system completely like millions of others, and Biden and Harris won't be any sort of savior.

A second trump term would be even worse

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No matter who wins this election, there will be cries of fraud, anger and vitriol.

Understand no matter who you vote for that there is no happy ending to this. There's no way this plays out where we all live happily ever after and the world is saved from the brink. 2021 onward is probably gonna be more of 2020, whether it's Biden or Trump. Just hope everyone knows that so they aren't disappointed when things don't turn out so great.

[Cisairse]

Not voting this year. The area I live in won't vote for anyone on the ticket that I would prefer, my state will go Biden-Harris though since it's nowhere near what one would call "a swing state" and I get to have the worst of both situations - local politicians doing stuff I hate and federal politicians doing stuff I hate. Least I can do is make my voice heard via not voting.

I encourage you to vote for someone you'd find palatable, even if they have no chance of winning.

Turnout is so low in the United States that not voting is seen as the default, not a protest.

[San Lumen]

Not voting this year. The area I live in won't vote for anyone on the ticket that I would prefer, my state will go Biden-Harris though since it's nowhere near what one would call "a swing state" and I get to have the worst of both situations - local politicians doing stuff I hate and federal politicians doing stuff I hate. Least I can do is make my voice heard via not voting.

Not voting doesn’t make your voice heard

[Telconi]

Yeah, I should vote for a crooked prosecutor and crooked cop instead. That'll bring real change.

No, you wanna know where ill be? Protesting. Like I did and will always do. I've lost faith in this system completely like millions of others, and Biden and Harris won't be any sort of savior.

A second trump term would be even worse

Not for everyone.