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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:14 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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Hmmmm? Not me. It will be a case of holding the nose and voting. I view Trump and four more years the bigger threat.


I cant in good conscience vote for Harris or Demmings. I couldn't months ago and I definitelt can't after George Floyd and Breona Taylor's untimely and cold blooded murders.


And yet what has Trump done in those areas? The other two couldn’t do much; he could and wouldn’t.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:30 pm

wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:41 pm

Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC

More importantly why is bill clinton speaking
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:57 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC

More importantly why is bill clinton speaking

Why not? It’s not like I plan to watch any of it since it’s all virtual. How are the networks even going to air it?
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Postby Ngelmish » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:59 pm

Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC


The same reasons Bush wanted Zell Miller, McCain wanted Lieberman, Romney wanted that one one term house guy who switched from Democrat to Republican. The bigger national visibility the better, the candidate always wants someone from the other side so they can say, "See? Even Republicans know Trump's bad!"

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Postby Maineiacs » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:00 pm

Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC



Because he hates Trump.
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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:03 pm

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-Astoria- wrote:I'm starting to wonder what people's ideal candidate would be, given that all I've been seeing from the past few pages is who people don't want.

Right wing civic nationalist who will stand up to Chinese dominance, get right wingers on the court, control immigration, especially the illegal kind, create jobs, revitalize the economy, and leave the middle east

But I’m not American so that doesn’t matter much

I agree that is why I will vote for Trump
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:03 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC



Because he hates Trump.

He's just jealous of the amazing job Trump has done bringing this country back from the pit the Democrats sank it in under Obama. :)
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:04 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Tbh I really don’t know what to believe anymore. It’s entirely possible that China using a psyop to get Trump in office


It’s in their interests to have Trump again. His incompetence has really increased their standings in the world.

Which is why they prefer Biden, 100% makes sense
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:05 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Right wing civic nationalist who will stand up to Chinese dominance, get right wingers on the court, control immigration, especially the illegal kind, create jobs, revitalize the economy, and leave the middle east

But I’m not American so that doesn’t matter much

I agree that is why I will vote for Trump

Trump isn’t really a civic nationalist, but sure I guess
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:17 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I cant in good conscience vote for Harris or Demmings. I couldn't months ago and I definitelt can't after George Floyd and Breona Taylor's untimely and cold blooded murders.


And yet what has Trump done in those areas? The other two couldn’t do much; he could and wouldn’t.


Did I say I like Trump? I don't but if Kamala Harris or Val Demmings are in office, I expect police brutality and mass incarceration to be given as big of a green light if not greener than Trump has given it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:18 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Right wing civic nationalist who will stand up to Chinese dominance, get right wingers on the court, control immigration, especially the illegal kind, create jobs, revitalize the economy, and leave the middle east

But I’m not American so that doesn’t matter much

I agree that is why I will vote for Trump


You mean an anti american fuck in debt to the bank of China who wants MORE IMMIGRATION, helped created a crisis that led to job loss and has us stealing american oil?

Fuck the president.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:19 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It’s in their interests to have Trump again. His incompetence has really increased their standings in the world.

Which is why they prefer Biden, 100% makes sense


Who says they want Biden? Several of their associates donated to Trump in 2016.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:20 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC


The same reasons Bush wanted Zell Miller, McCain wanted Lieberman, Romney wanted that one one term house guy who switched from Democrat to Republican. The bigger national visibility the better, the candidate always wants someone from the other side so they can say, "See? Even Republicans know Trump's bad!"


I still think it's weird. John Kasich is a Republican.
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Postby Ngelmish » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:25 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Ngelmish wrote:
The same reasons Bush wanted Zell Miller, McCain wanted Lieberman, Romney wanted that one one term house guy who switched from Democrat to Republican. The bigger national visibility the better, the candidate always wants someone from the other side so they can say, "See? Even Republicans know Trump's bad!"


I still think it's weird. John Kasich is a Republican.


That's the whole point. Republicans do it when they have the opportunity to poach a Democrat too.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:32 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
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It’s in their interests to have Trump again. His incompetence has really increased their standings in the world.

Which is why they prefer Biden, 100% makes sense


It’s almost like people can say one thing and do something else.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:38 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC



Because he hates Trump.

Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:40 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC



Because he hates Trump.


Why would he hate him?
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:31 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Because he hates Trump.

Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?

Yes, but you already knew that.
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:44 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Because he hates Trump.

Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?

The Democrats are drifting further right as a party because "at least they don't like Trump". I was almost convinced I might have to bend the knee to Biden after Trump started having protestors kidnapped, but then he starts talking about shooting them in the knees and arresting anarchists for their ideology... no thank you.

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Postby Jedi Council » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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And yet what has Trump done in those areas? The other two couldn’t do much; he could and wouldn’t.


Did I say I like Trump? I don't but if Kamala Harris or Val Demmings are in office, I expect police brutality and mass incarceration to be given as big of a green light if not greener than Trump has given it.


You think having Harris or Demmings as VP would be worse for police brutality and mass incarceration to be worse than if Trump is the actual President?

Can I have whatever you are smoking?
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Postby Jedi Council » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:00 pm

Cisairse wrote:wait why the fuck is John Kasich going to speak at the DNC

These events always have stuff like this.

Kasich hates Trump, and is a signal to wavering GOP voters that its acceptable to support an opponent when your own team is fighting for someone like Trump.

As someone already pointed out, you had Lieberman do the same thing for McCain, Bloomberg was sort of that person for Hillary back in '16. It is the "Hey, the other guy is so bad, even this high profile Republican/Democrat would rather vote for us."

Shouldn't be that big of a surprise really.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And yet what has Trump done in those areas? The other two couldn’t do much; he could and wouldn’t.


Did I say I like Trump? I don't but if Kamala Harris or Val Demmings are in office, I expect police brutality and mass incarceration to be given as big of a green light if not greener than Trump has given it.

I highly doubt you would vote Biden even if Harris or Demmings aren't chosen as the VP.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:11 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Because he hates Trump.

Has the Democratic Party renamed itself to the "We Don't Like Trump Party"?


More, the "Hey, we'll give you a platform to tell other wavering red-hatters that just this one time it's okay to vote for the other team, or if that's too much to stay home." Party

He's not there to talk to Democrats, he's giving a speech to Republicans who aren't feeling all the Greatness Trump is bringing to America.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:17 pm

Good news for President Trump, the nation and the economy, 1,800,000 jobs were added to the economy in July 2020, reducing the unemployment rate to 10.20 %, the third decrease in a row, since the international virus crisis and the lock downs by Republican and Democrat governors due to the virus crisis.

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 1.8 million in July, and the unemployment rate fell to 10.2 percent. These improvements in the labor market reflected the continued resumption of economic activity that had been curtailed due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

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