2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Galloism]

Biden: Latino community is diverse 'unlike the African American community'

Basically he’s saying all black people think and vote the same way (presumably liberal)

Even the little part of me that was considering voting Biden just to get rid of Trump is gone now, Biden is as shitty as him

I understand why that's frustrating, I'm not gonna go out on a limb to defend that stupid remark.

In terms of race in general, Biden has this inane thing he does where he tries to act like he's "hip with the blacks" so to speak, and it just comes across as desperate pandering. Obviously, that's off-putting. But when you put Biden, someone who is demonstrably not really a racist, against someone who is pretty much demonstrably known to be a racist, I think the choice becomes a little clearer.

And it's not just about race, I know you're pretty anti-big government and probably naturally skeptical of the Dems, but framing this election in a way Libertarians might wanna go Democratic has a lot to do with the unprecedented governmental overreaches and corruption we've seen from the Trump administration. He never drained the swamp, he swam in it and expanded it.

Honestly, even if Biden is a little bit racist, and he might be, there's levels.

I once used some black powder to blow up a tree stump. That was an explosion. What happened in Beirut was also an explosion.

They aren't exactly on the same scale. Biden at least seems to try to be even handed on race, but the same can't be said for The President.

[Nuroblav]

I'm a black man. Most of us do vote Democrat (for obvious reasons), the Latino community isn't as high on the Democrats as African-Americans are (i.e Texas and Florida). Biden was stating facts about the politics in these communities.

That being said, many older blacks are more socially conservative and evangelical.

Aren’t black people more religious in general?

In the US it appears so

[Major-Tom]

I understand why that's frustrating, I'm not gonna go out on a limb to defend that stupid remark.

In terms of race in general, Biden has this inane thing he does where he tries to act like he's "hip with the blacks" so to speak, and it just comes across as desperate pandering. Obviously, that's off-putting. But when you put Biden, someone who is demonstrably not really a racist, against someone who is pretty much demonstrably known to be a racist, I think the choice becomes a little clearer.

And it's not just about race, I know you're pretty anti-big government and probably naturally skeptical of the Dems, but framing this election in a way Libertarians might wanna go Democratic has a lot to do with the unprecedented governmental overreaches and corruption we've seen from the Trump administration. He never drained the swamp, he swam in it and expanded it.

Honestly, even if Biden is a little bit racist, and he might be, there's levels.

I once used some black powder to blow up a tree stump. That was an explosion. What happened in Beirut was also an explosion.

They aren't exactly on the same scale. Biden at least seems to try to be even handed on race, but the same can't be said for The President.

Sure. Demonstrably might have been the wrong word.

Again, Trump isn't just unable to show support for minorities in this country, he just straight up tries to dogwhistle and fan the flames in that capacity. Definitely been a lot of "mask off" moments with him recently.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Biden: Latino community is diverse 'unlike the African American community'

Basically he’s saying all black people think and vote the same way (presumably liberal)

Even the little part of me that was considering voting Biden just to get rid of Trump is gone now, Biden is as shitty as him

I understand why that's frustrating, I'm not gonna go out on a limb to defend that stupid remark.

In terms of race in general, Biden has this inane thing he does where he tries to act like he's "hip with the blacks" so to speak, and it just comes across as desperate pandering. Obviously, that's off-putting. But when you put Biden, someone who is demonstrably not really a racist, against someone who is pretty much demonstrably known to be a racist, I think the choice becomes a little clearer.

And it's not just about race, I know you're pretty anti-big government and probably naturally skeptical of the Dems, but framing this election in a way Libertarians might wanna go Democratic has a lot to do with the unprecedented governmental overreaches and corruption we've seen from the Trump administration. He never drained the swamp, he swam in it and expanded it.

He drained the swamp alright. We just made the mistake of assuming he was talking about corruption, when in fact he meant honesty, integrity, patriotism, and most importantly: Democrats. The swamp wasn't corruption; it was people he didn't like who wouldn't lick his jackboots.

[United States of Devonta]

Trump Campaign formally asks Debate Commission to schedule one the first week in September so voters in 16 states with early voting can benefit. Current schedule has the first of 3 debates on Sept 29th. Letter to the Commission calls current schedule "an outdated dinosaur."

If i'm Biden, I would say no. Biden should keep to the original 3 debate time schedule and not do anything that might hurt him during early voting. Trump's team is desperate, they know they are down.

[Shrillland]

Two more additions to the Plaza today, including our first from DC.

District of Columbia: Initiative 81 would instruct the DC Police to place the non-commercial cultivation, possession, distribution, and use of entheogenic plants and fungi(i.e, magic mushrooms, mescaline, peyote, etc.) on their lowest enforcement priorities, effectively decriminalising such acts.

Nebraska: Measure number three would impose an annual interest cap of 36% on payday lenders in the state.

[Bear Stearns]

Nebraska: Measure number three would impose an annual interest cap of 36% on payday lenders in the state.

lmao fucking payday lenders. We were in discussions with on one once to act as an advisor to them. Easily some of the most dishonest people I've worked with.

[Cannot think of a name]

Trump Campaign formally asks Debate Commission to schedule one the first week in September so voters in 16 states with early voting can benefit. Current schedule has the first of 3 debates on Sept 29th. Letter to the Commission calls current schedule "an outdated dinosaur."

If i'm Biden, I would say no. Biden should keep to the original 3 debate time schedule and not do anything that might hurt him during early voting. Trump's team is desperate, they know they are down.

I don’t know how this hurts Biden, especially with an early lead unless you’re thinking Trump will do well in debates when he can’t even do well in a Fox News interview.

[Shrillland]

Nebraska: Measure number three would impose an annual interest cap of 36% on payday lenders in the state.

lmao fucking payday lenders. We were in discussions with on one once to act as an advisor to them. Easily some of the most dishonest people I've worked with.

Makes sense. The ultimate predators feeding on the ultimate prey, no room for morals among those folks.

[United States of Devonta]

Trump Campaign formally asks Debate Commission to schedule one the first week in September so voters in 16 states with early voting can benefit. Current schedule has the first of 3 debates on Sept 29th. Letter to the Commission calls current schedule "an outdated dinosaur."

If i'm Biden, I would say no. Biden should keep to the original 3 debate time schedule and not do anything that might hurt him during early voting. Trump's team is desperate, they know they are down.

I don’t know how this hurts Biden, especially with an early lead unless you’re thinking Trump will do well in debates when he can’t even do well in a Fox News interview.

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

[Bear Stearns]

lmao fucking payday lenders. We were in discussions with on one once to act as an advisor to them. Easily some of the most dishonest people I've worked with.

Makes sense. The ultimate predators feeding on the ultimate prey, no room for morals among those folks.

The language in their prospectus materials was amusing. They fancied themselves a bank.

[Cannot think of a name]

I don’t know how this hurts Biden, especially with an early lead unless you’re thinking Trump will do well in debates when he can’t even do well in a Fox News interview.

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

What’s the risk, though?

[Major-Tom]

I don’t know how this hurts Biden, especially with an early lead unless you’re thinking Trump will do well in debates when he can’t even do well in a Fox News interview.

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

I think he should do it. They should prep him, get him all ready, and then have him in that early debate. Not doing it plays into the trap of "ohh, well, look, he won't debate! Guess he's senile!"

[United States of Devonta]

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

What’s the risk, though?

Biden either losing or saying something dumb.

When your already up in the polls, it makes little sense to want to be in the spotlight.

[United States of Devonta]

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

I think he should do it. They should prep him, get him all ready, and then have him in that early debate. Not doing it plays into the trap of "ohh, well, look, he won't debate! Guess he's senile!"

Voters aren't listening to that. If anything, Biden's call for already agreed upon time schedules and rules, makes him look less desperate then Trump.

This looks very desperate on Trumps account.

[Cannot think of a name]

Doesn't matter. Why risk it? That'd be dumb. Do what you know will work the best.

I think he should do it. They should prep him, get him all ready, and then have him in that early debate. Not doing it plays into the trap of "ohh, well, look, he won't debate! Guess he's senile!"

I feel like it’s a bluff, like they’re counting on the ‘any idea from the other side is an automatic no’ so like you said they can run around grousing about how unreasonable the other side is. I think that the best move is to call the bluff. Don’t even negotiate, just go, “Yeah alright, you’re on. Let’s do this. Beating you this week won’t be any harder than beating you next, I’m a better president than you’ll ever be on a Monday or a Friday, the fuck do I care.”

[Farnhamia]

Trump Campaign formally asks Debate Commission to schedule one the first week in September so voters in 16 states with early voting can benefit. Current schedule has the first of 3 debates on Sept 29th. Letter to the Commission calls current schedule "an outdated dinosaur."

If i'm Biden, I would say no. Biden should keep to the original 3 debate time schedule and not do anything that might hurt him during early voting. Trump's team is desperate, they know they are down.

I think three whole states open early voting on dates that might work out to before September 29th. Maybe four. https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections ... tions.aspx

[Saiwania]

Those who're devoted to their firearms might want to consider not voting for Biden, in spite of how bad Trump getting another 4 years might be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... l-poverty/

The liberal publication admits that Biden wants to expand the 1934 NFA to include semi-auto rifles and other such weaponry that could be considered Assault Weapons. It is quite a problem for people who inherited it like me, or come into possession of such items for whatever reason.

[Aureumterra]

Those who're devoted to their firearms might want to consider not voting for Biden, in spite of how bad Trump getting another 4 years might be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... l-poverty/

The liberal publication admits that Biden wants to expand the 1934 NFA to include semi-auto rifles and other such weaponry that could be considered Assault Weapons. It is quite a problem for people who inherited it like me, or come into possession of such items for whatever reason.

Nazi thinks 4 more years of Trump are bad

Wait that’s illegal

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Biden: Latino community is diverse 'unlike the African American community'

Basically he’s saying all black people think and vote the same way (presumably liberal)

Even the little part of me that was considering voting Biden just to get rid of Trump is gone now, Biden is as shitty as him

Does he not realize that Jamaican, Nigerian, Haitian and Dominican Americans exist? I'm glad Biden doesn't think all hispanics are the stereotypical cholo Mexican gangsters from Mi Vida Loca or Blood in, Blood out, but Jesus christ Joe you just insulted black people again.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Those who're devoted to their firearms might want to consider not voting for Biden, in spite of how bad Trump getting another 4 years might be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... l-poverty/

The liberal publication admits that Biden wants to expand the 1934 NFA to include semi-auto rifles and other such weaponry that could be considered Assault Weapons. It is quite a problem for people who inherited it like me, or come into possession of such items for whatever reason.

Nazi thinks 4 more years of Trump are bad

Wait that’s illegal

Actually many white nationalists know Trump is a con artist and knew he was since day one. In a weird semi accelerationist way, they just knew his rhetoric and sheer chaos would allow them to break into the mainstream.

Unfortunately he didn't fulfill most of his campaign promises. Turns out when he isnt running for election or it isnt midterm year, torturing brown people isnt on his to do list. Torturing anyone who doesn't kiss his ass is.

[Shrillland]

The latest Quinnipiac poll has McConnell ahead by 5 points in Kentucky, Gideon ahead by 4 in Maine, and Graham and Harrison tied in South Carolina: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/gideon-collins-south-carolina-maine-392361

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Trump Campaign formally asks Debate Commission to schedule one the first week in September so voters in 16 states with early voting can benefit. Current schedule has the first of 3 debates on Sept 29th. Letter to the Commission calls current schedule "an outdated dinosaur."

If i'm Biden, I would say no. Biden should keep to the original 3 debate time schedule and not do anything that might hurt him during early voting. Trump's team is desperate, they know they are down.

I don’t know how this hurts Biden, especially with an early lead unless you’re thinking Trump will do well in debates when he can’t even do well in a Fox News interview.

Biden is the guy who forgot Obama's name and thought the 2020 census was two decades ago. Don't pretend Trump is gonna get creamed when his opponent is as much of a bird brain as he is.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Biden: Latino community is diverse 'unlike the African American community'

Basically he’s saying all black people think and vote the same way (presumably liberal)

Even the little part of me that was considering voting Biden just to get rid of Trump is gone now, Biden is as shitty as him

Does he not realize that Jamaican, Nigerian, Haitian and Dominican Americans exist? I'm glad Biden doesn't think all hispanics are the stereotypical cholo Mexican gangsters from Mi Vida Loca or Blood in, Blood out, but Jesus christ Joe you just insulted black people again.

There’s actually a very sharp contrast between the African Americans descended form slaves, and those whose families recently immigrated from Africa by choice

The latter are some of the highest earners in the country, and tend to be wealthy businesspeople. Nigerian Americans are the second highest earning ethnic group in the US, after Indian Americans, while the highest earning white ethnicity, Austrian Americans, clock in at 5th

[Valrifell]

The latest Quinnipiac poll has McConnell ahead by 5 points in Kentucky, Gideon ahead by 4 in Maine, and Graham and Harrison tied in South Carolina: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/gideon-collins-south-carolina-maine-392361

+5 feels uncomfortably narrow for Kentucky. I'm sure it'll swing McConnell but it'd be funny as fuck if they had to spend money in Kentucky just to be sure.