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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:09 pm

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Shrillland wrote:NYT made a suggestion, and I agree with what I'm seeing, so another call to make:

MO-Amendment 2: Approved


Is that medicaid expansion ?


It is indeed. 75% in and Yes is ahead by 20,551. NYT says that since it squeaked into approval in ruby-red St. Charles County, it'll likely pass.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:11 pm

Shrillland wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Is that medicaid expansion ?


It is indeed. 75% in and Yes is ahead by 20,551. NYT says that since it squeaked into approval in ruby-red St. Charles County, it'll likely pass.


So many poor rural counties voted against it. Republicans voting against their own interest. I always hate to see it.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:19 pm

Solvokina wrote:No, I'm saying most who voted are either mentally inefficient or did it out of desperation/because berine lost

Given your history on your last puppet, one would have hoped you would realize that this is not how we conduct debate here. I see you JUST came off a 10 day forumban and a deletion not even two weeks ago, so there's little reason to grant any particular leniency given your track record.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:32 pm

Unfortunately I have fallen way behind on this thread. Like 150 pages behind. Bet I missed some good shit.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:34 pm

And now for a lot more calls:

GOP AZ-Senate: Martha McSally
GOP AZ-1(Flagstaff and the Nations): Tiffany Shedd
GOP AZ-4(Yuma-Prescott-Grand Canyon): Paul Gosar
Dem AZ-4(Yuma-Prescott-Grand Canyon): Delina DiSanto
GOP MO-5(Kansas City Central): Ryan Derks
WA-Governor Spot 1: Dem Jay Inslee
WA-Governor Spot 2: GOP Loren Culp
WA-1(Kirkland-Redmond) Spot 1: Dem Suzan DelBene
WA-1(Kirkland-Redmond) Spot 2: GOP Jeffrey Beeler
WA-2(Bellingham-Everett) Spot 1: Dem Rick Larsen
WA-3(Vancouver) Spot 1: GOP Jaime Herrera Butler
WA-3(Vancouver) Spot 2: Dem Carolyn Long
WA-4(Yakima) Spot 1: GOP Dan Newhouse
WA-4(Yakima) Spot 2: Dem Douglas McKinley
WA-5(Spokane) Spot 1: GOP Cathy McMorris Rodgers
WA-5(Spokane) Spot 2: Dem Dave Wilson
WA-6(Tacoma-Port Angeles) Spot 1: Dem Derek Kilmer
WA-6(Tacoma-Port Angeles) Spot 2: GOP Elisabeth Kresielmaier
WA-7(Seattle Central) Spot 1: Dem Pramila Jayapal
WA-7(Seattle Central) Spot 2: GOP Craig Keller
WA-8(Auburn-Wenatchee) Spot 1: Dem Kim Schrier
WA-9(Seattle-Tacoma) Spot 1: Dem Adam Smith
WA-9(Seattle-Tacoma) Spot 2: GOP Doug Basler
WA-10(Olympia-Tacoma) Spot 1: Dem Marilyn Strickland
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:34 pm

Come on AZ-01, Eva Putzova might have a chance!
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:43 pm

Another call:

Dem AZ-2(Tuscon-Sierra Vista): Ann Kirkpatrick
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:51 pm

Cori Bush has taken the lead in the MO-01 primary race! Lets go!!
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Postby Lamoni » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:57 pm

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:07 pm

A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:Auth-right be like


We aren’t auth right. Not everyone who opposes anarchism is auth right

I'm accusing Solvokina of being authright in denial, you're just a liberal.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:07 pm

Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.

I hope Arpaio loses. It is disgusting that he might not.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:08 pm

Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.


The race has been called for Cori Bush in MO-1
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Postby Corrian » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:08 pm

Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.

He's fucking 88, why is he running for Sheriff again? And does he want to lose...again? The state already booted him out once.
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Postby Uiiop » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:08 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We aren’t auth right. Not everyone who opposes anarchism is auth right

I'm accusing Solvokina of being authright in denial, you're just a liberal.

Therm is a tito stan IIRC. That doesn't prevent liberalism from being a influence but there's a distinction there.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:10 pm

Corrian wrote:
Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.

He's fucking 88, why is he running for Sheriff again? And does he want to lose...again? The state already booted him out once.

He tried to run for the AZ Senate in 2018 against Kelli Ward and Martha McSally but failed. McSally is doing her best to be Trump's rubber stamp while Ward is the chair of the AZ GOP and trying to outwit other state GOPs in the process.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:11 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:I'm accusing Solvokina of being authright in denial, you're just a liberal.

Therm is a tito stan IIRC. That doesn't prevent liberalism from being a influence but there's a distinction there.

Revisionism isn't much better imo but that is good to know. Thermodolia needs to read Marx, he was pretty clear that communism is stateless.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:21 pm

Corrian wrote:
Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.

He's fucking 88, why is he running for Sheriff again? And does he want to lose...again? The state already booted him out once.


Maricopa County is a strange place - take my word for it. Republicans here are all over the place politically, but they all share one thing in common, and that is their visceral hatred of Mexican-Americans. That is their unifier, and for decades, Sheriff Joe embodied that in his authoritarian, thuggish tenure.

He won't win the General, but his primary win is so unsurprising. He's an icon to snowbird and boomer Republicans in Arizona.

Edit: Not primary win, just overall primary success.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:23 pm

Good on Cori Bush though.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:24 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Good on Cori Bush though.


She cam from behind to beat a political dynasty that had been in power for 51 years!!

This after losing by 20% in 2018. She also is the OG Justice Dem.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:24 pm

More gravy!...sorry, more calls:

Dem AZ-8(Peoria-Surprise): Michael Muscato
Dem MO-1(St. Louis): Cori Bush

First big upset of the night, and it might not be the last.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:25 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Corrian wrote:He's fucking 88, why is he running for Sheriff again? And does he want to lose...again? The state already booted him out once.


Maricopa County is a strange place - take my word for it. Republicans here are all over the place politically, but they all share one thing in common, and that is their visceral hatred of Mexican-Americans. That is their unifier, and for decades, Sheriff Joe embodied that in his authoritarian, thuggish tenure.

He won't win the General, but his primary win is so unsurprising. He's an icon to snowbird and boomer Republicans in Arizona.

Edit: Not primary win, just overall primary success.

That is sad
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Good on Cori Bush though.


She cam from behind to beat a political dynasty that had been in power for 51 years!!

This after losing by 20% in 2018. She also is the OG Justice Dem.


He was actually a pretty stellar congressman, so I was def neutral on the outcome, but I think some new leadership in the St. Louis metro could be refreshing.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:28 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Maricopa County is a strange place - take my word for it. Republicans here are all over the place politically, but they all share one thing in common, and that is their visceral hatred of Mexican-Americans. That is their unifier, and for decades, Sheriff Joe embodied that in his authoritarian, thuggish tenure.

He won't win the General, but his primary win is so unsurprising. He's an icon to snowbird and boomer Republicans in Arizona.

Edit: Not primary win, just overall primary success.

That is sad


It is. I could be less hyperbolic, perhaps, obviously not every Republican in the PHX metro hates Mexicans, but having spent 12+ years in the most ruby red parts of the PHX area (and still having my whole fam there), it's probably more true that most Republicans there over the age of, say, 40, is more racist than anybody I've ever encountered in Mississippi or Alabama.

Must be the heat, man.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:29 pm

Corrian wrote:
Shrillland wrote:A couple more calls:

Dem AZ-6(Phoenix-Scottsdale): Hiral Tiperneni
GOP AZ-9(Phoenix-Mesa): Dave Giles
GOP MI-8(Lansing-Rochester Hills): Paul Junge
GOP MO-1(St. Louis): Anthony Rogers

Further down ballot, in the Maricopa County Sheriff's race, it's a close GOP primary with less than 500 votes between Jerry Sheridan and that man Joe Arpaio again.

He's fucking 88, why is he running for Sheriff again? And does he want to lose...again? The state already booted him out once.


Worse, he was convicted of criminal contempt of court, in 2017. Trump pardoned him.

If he's not too old to run for office, he's not too old to be in jail.

Please Maricopa County, don't elect a criminal as Sheriff. Elect a dead coyote before you elect him!
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