2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Tombradyonia]

Trump is making a critical thinking error (no surprise there) when he thinks that postponing the election will somehow extend his term in office. It most certainly does not. No election? Trump has to go by 1/20/2021 anyway.
If there is no election then there is no POTUS, no VPOTUS and no members of the House. Just 2/3rds of the Senate will be left: 33 Democrats, 30 Republicans, 2 Independents.

Say hello to your new president, Patrick Leahy*

* since the 2020 map eliminates 23 Reps and 12 Dems without them the Dems are back in majority and Leahy would be president pro tempore

Presidents pro tempore are elected, and in order to elect Leahy to that office the Senate would need to meet quorum, which they cannot do if they are missing a third of their members.

Quorum
Quorum is 51, and 65 > 51

[Cisairse]

Presidents pro tempore are elected, and in order to elect Leahy to that office the Senate would need to meet quorum, which they cannot do if they are missing a third of their members.

Quorum
Quorum is 51, and 65 > 51

Huh, I thought it was 2/3rds.

Nice.

[Outer Sparta]

We can start counting the day of and still have it take weeks.

Then start counting as soon as ballots are received. Not difficult

At least have a paper trail in place to back up the results (which the ballots will be counted via machines).

[Aureumterra]

Biden Says He Can't Wait To Find Out Who He Picked For VP

The bee strikes again

[Aureumterra]

Biden Says He Can't Wait To Find Out Who He Picked For VP

The bee strikes again

[San Lumen]

Biden Says He Can't Wait To Find Out Who He Picked For VP

The bee strikes again

Your aware the Bee is satire right?

[Aureumterra]

Biden Says He Can't Wait To Find Out Who He Picked For VP

The bee strikes again

Your aware the Bee is satire right?

Oh noooo… I did not know that?! This has shattered my entire worldview!!!!

[The Huskar Social Union]

Your aware the Bee is satire right?

Oh noooo… I did not know that?! This has shattered my entire worldview!!!!

[San Lumen]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/george-pa ... ng-to-die/

Its never too early to talk about the next cycle it seems. Former New York Governor George Pataki is considering running for a fourth term in 2022. To date he is the last Republican to be elected governor of New York. He retired in 2006 after serving three terms.

[Dresderstan]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/george-pataki-warns-big-apple-on-brink-nyc-is-going-to-die/

Its never too early to talk about the next cycle it seems. Former New York Governor George Pataki is considering running for a fourth term in 2022. To date he is the last Republican to be elected governor of New York. He retired in 2006 after serving three terms.

I like Pataki but no, 3 terms was good enough and even still his final term was quite shaky, plus it's been about 15 years since he was governor.

[San Lumen]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/george-pataki-warns-big-apple-on-brink-nyc-is-going-to-die/

Its never too early to talk about the next cycle it seems. Former New York Governor George Pataki is considering running for a fourth term in 2022. To date he is the last Republican to be elected governor of New York. He retired in 2006 after serving three terms.

I like Pataki but no, 3 terms was good enough and even still his final term was quite shaky, plus it's been about 15 years since he was governor.

It has been awhile but he would probably be the strongest candidate Republicans have given how decimated their bench has been since he retired. he could make Cuomo sweat a bit but given how far right Republicans have gone I have doubts he could win a primary.

I don't remember a tremendous amount about him and never formed much of a opinion on him as he was governor throughout most of my school and college years and I didn't follow state politics that much. I couldn't vote in any of his three elections as my first ballot was cast in 2006 when I turned 18. From what little I know and remember he was a fairly decent governor

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://youtu.be/hqtyvkkqzIg

A video from one of the candidates this election season, and probably the most qualified to run the country.

[Zurkerx]

I’m not sure machines can be employed in counting the ballots, especially now that most, if not virtually all of the ballots are going to be mailed in.

Oregon, Washington and Colorado start counting ballots as soon as they are received. Why can’t any other state? I pretty sure They can take stacks of ballots and have a machine count them sort of like a printer

But you do have to keep in mind: those States have a system set up given that most votes are by mail and they've been doing for years. Other States, especially Republican ones, don't and currently aren't fully equipped to handle such a task. Yes, the option of mail should be expanded, but to do on short notice, especially in an election year, in the midst of a pandemic, is not an easy task. Not to mention, you're going to need to keep a log of the votes, which while that may not sound hard, is time consuming and needs a system in place. What would make it easier is if the ballots were like a scantron: that would make counting easier.

[San Lumen]

Oregon, Washington and Colorado start counting ballots as soon as they are received. Why can’t any other state? I pretty sure They can take stacks of ballots and have a machine count them sort of like a printer

But you do have to keep in mind: those States have a system set up given that most votes are by mail and they've been doing for years. Other States, especially Republican ones, don't and currently aren't fully equipped to handle such a task. Yes, the option of mail should be expanded, but to do on short notice, especially in an election year, in the midst of a pandemic, is not an easy task. Not to mention, you're going to need to keep a log of the votes, which while that may not sound hard, is time consuming and needs a system in place. What would make it easier is if the ballots were like a scantron: that would make counting easier.

They already are in many states. You fill out a paper ballot and then feed it into a machine that is nothing more than a glorified calculator

[Shrillland]

Trump continues his crusade against voting by mail be suggesting that the Brooklyn Central primary be re-run, considering there still hasn't been a winner there and there are now battles over 12,000 tossed-out ballots in a grim repetition of 2000: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510356-trump-suggests-revote-maloneys-ny-primary-amid-slow-ballot-count

[Thermodolia]

But you do have to keep in mind: those States have a system set up given that most votes are by mail and they've been doing for years. Other States, especially Republican ones, don't and currently aren't fully equipped to handle such a task. Yes, the option of mail should be expanded, but to do on short notice, especially in an election year, in the midst of a pandemic, is not an easy task. Not to mention, you're going to need to keep a log of the votes, which while that may not sound hard, is time consuming and needs a system in place. What would make it easier is if the ballots were like a scantron: that would make counting easier.

They already are in many states. You fill out a paper ballot and then feed it into a machine that is nothing more than a glorified calculator

Here in Georgia we decided to make things complicated and added a computer with a printer that prints your ballot that you then turn in.

[Neutraligon]

They already are in many states. You fill out a paper ballot and then feed it into a machine that is nothing more than a glorified calculator

Here in Georgia we decided to make things complicated and added a computer with a printer that prints your ballot that you then turn in.

The Utah elections had a card that kept track of your vote and was turned in and a receipt that printed your vote (which you could check).

[Valrifell]

Then start counting as soon as ballots are received. Not difficult

I’m not sure machines can be employed in counting the ballots, especially now that most, if not virtually all of the ballots are going to be mailed in.

It's quite simple, all you have to do is make sure that the ballot was properly mailed (IE no tears or tampering on the envelope(s)) and then put the ballot on a pile to be fed in the regular tabulation doohicky.

[San Lumen]

I’m not sure machines can be employed in counting the ballots, especially now that most, if not virtually all of the ballots are going to be mailed in.

It's quite simple, all you have to do is make sure that the ballot was properly mailed (IE no tears or tampering on the envelope(s)) and then put the ballot on a pile to be fed in the regular tabulation doohicky.

And they can start doing doing that as soon as they receive the ballots. Why must we make everything so complicated?

[No State Here]

Partisans: always anxious about election night, worrying if they lose they will have to hear "I told you so" from someone for the next 4 years

3rd party voters: Know they will lose and embrace it

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Partisans: always anxious about election night, worrying if they lose they will have to hear "I told you so" from someone for the next 4 years

3rd party voters: Know they will lose and embrace it

Weird flex but okay.

[The Rich Port]

Partisans: always anxious about election night, worrying if they lose they will have to hear "I told you so" from someone for the next 4 years

3rd party voters: Know they will lose and embrace it

All of the perks of the Libertarian Party, huh.

47 year old overweight men stripping are that good for the economy?

[Atheris]

Partisans: always anxious about election night, worrying if they lose they will have to hear "I told you so" from someone for the next 4 years

3rd party voters: Know they will lose and embrace it

All of the perks of the Libertarian Party, huh.

47 year old overweight men stripping are that good for the economy?

...Wait, they aren't?

There goes my plans for the Rockefeller-esque industrialization of midlife crisis strip bars.

[San Lumen]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vi ... story.html

Former Virginia House Speaker Kirk Cox who nearly lost his reelection bid last year as his party lost the state legislature is considering a run for Governor next year

[Kowani]

All of the perks of the Libertarian Party, huh.

47 year old overweight men stripping are that good for the economy?

...Wait, they aren't?

There goes my plans for the Rockefeller-esque industrialization of midlife crisis strip bars.

von Mises, 18:31
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