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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:01 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Heloin wrote:How do you expect to get something before it exists?

Don't ask me, ask Vassenor who started this, and is having a lol attack, :)


Cruz tried to use identity politics and take advantage of his Hispanic background to make it look like Dems hated Hispanics. Of course, he had to lie about it. He defended Goya faster then he defended his wife against Trump.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:05 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Don't ask me, ask Vassenor who started this, and is having a lol attack, :)


Cruz tried to use identity politics and take advantage of his Hispanic background to make it look like Dems hated Hispanics. Of course, he had to lie about it. He defended Goya faster then he defended his wife against Trump.

This should be the part where he rationalizes Heidi Cruz deserving to be called ugly next to trophy wife Melania
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:11 pm

Gormwood wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Something about the intolerant left, right?

Probably a few Trumpests praying that this is a Jussie Smollett by the Democrats.

Or if Kelli Ward did it, she'll just blame the chemtrails caused by the deep state and antifa.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:13 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Probably a few Trumpests praying that this is a Jussie Smollett by the Democrats.

Or if Kelli Ward did it, she'll just blame the chemtrails caused by the deep state and antifa.

"It's the chemicals in the soy lattes!"
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:15 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Or if Kelli Ward did it, she'll just blame the chemtrails caused by the deep state and antifa.

"It's the chemicals in the soy lattes!"

Regardless, Ward will still blame [insert conspiracy against Democrats] for the arson.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:45 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Shrillland wrote:I can move this if it isn't the place for it, but the Arizona Democratic Party HQ in Phoenix was completely destroyed by arson yesterday morning: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2020/07/24/fire-damages-arizona-democratic-party-headquarters-building-phoenix-overnight/5501305002/


Something about the intolerant left, right?

There is an intolerant right and there is an intolerant left.
There is an unrespectful right and there is an unrespectful left.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:36 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Biden says four Black women are on his VP finalist list, but won't commit to choosing one, which makes sense given he wants to make the right choice. If we are to take a crack at who these four Black women are, I would guess these people:

Kamala Harris
Susan Rice
Karen Bass
Val Demings

Bottoms might be one too but that is tough to say. And the likes of Abrams have basically fell off the cliff, and considerations. If I had to guess, it's probably going to be a Black woman at this point: I'd be somewhat surprised if he didn't select one of these four.

When Biden inevitably loses his job, one of them will become the first female president.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:15 pm

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If we were a bit more disciplined though, we wouldn't make a big fuss about "I wish her well" and he might start talking about pre-emptive pardon. That would be gold!

Lincoln Project might be a false flag operation trying to mine out all the good stuff so it has less impact in the last month.

With how mad they're making him, I doubt it.

Did he tweet something about them? I wasn’t following the news
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:20 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
Something about the intolerant left, right?

There is an intolerant right and there is an intolerant left.
There is an unrespectful right and there is an unrespectful left.


Yeah, but the intolerant left is intolerant of fascism and racism and the intolerant right is intolerant of *checks notes* gays and abortion.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:39 pm

I hope whoever wins America’s election will take action against China, since their lies have caused the deaths of over a million people worldwide, and they continue bullying everyone in Asia and creating puppet states like Nepal, Pakistan, and Laos.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:40 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:I hope whoever wins America’s election will take action against China, since their lies have caused the deaths of over a million people worldwide, and they continue bullying everyone in Asia and creating puppet states like Nepal, Pakistan, and Laos.


Most of which have been in the US or in countries like Brazil that brought into Trump's bullshit on the matter.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:43 pm

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:44 pm

Kannap wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:There is an intolerant right and there is an intolerant left.
There is an unrespectful right and there is an unrespectful left.


Yeah, but the intolerant left is intolerant of fascism and racism and the intolerant right is intolerant of *checks notes* gays and abortion.

While I post it general terms, I think the intolerant right is intolerant of the left, and the intolerant left is intolerant of the right, and both the right and left are intolerant of each other. The same goes for respect, and it is not all on both sides.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:48 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:I hope whoever wins America’s election will take action against China, since their lies have caused the deaths of over a million people worldwide, and they continue bullying everyone in Asia and creating puppet states like Nepal, Pakistan, and Laos.


Most of which have been in the US or in countries like Brazil that brought into Trump's bullshit on the matter.

That doesn’t discount the fact that China is a threat to all
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:53 pm


"And if nothing fundamentally changes during the next Democratic administration, it’s a good bet that everything will fundamentally change for the worse in our economy, our society, our politics, and our world."

I just hope Biden looses the election, once the one on one debates began, Biden cant hide.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:56 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Wonderful just wonderful

"And if nothing fundamentally changes during the next Democratic administration, it’s a good bet that everything will fundamentally change for the worse in our economy, our society, our politics, and our world."

I just hope Biden looses the election, once the one on one debates began, Biden cant hide.

Trump isn’t any better when it comes to debating
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:"And if nothing fundamentally changes during the next Democratic administration, it’s a good bet that everything will fundamentally change for the worse in our economy, our society, our politics, and our world."

I just hope Biden looses the election, once the one on one debates began, Biden cant hide.

Trump isn’t any better when it comes to debating

Biden has to move to the left as much as possible to appease Bernie Supporters and other leftists. Most Republicans don't consider Biden as centrist as he claims to be and as the leftist media loves to portray him, once the one on one debates began, Biden cant hide. Granted, the independents are the ones who will count either way. Contrary to certain opinions on this thread and site, I am not the only one who thinks so.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:05 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:I hope whoever wins America’s election will take action against China, since their lies have caused the deaths of over a million people worldwide, and they continue bullying everyone in Asia and creating puppet states like Nepal, Pakistan, and Laos.


I hope the world retroactively takes action against the United States for the Spanish flu too, while we're at it.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:18 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Yeah, but the intolerant left is intolerant of fascism and racism and the intolerant right is intolerant of *checks notes* gays and abortion.

While I post it general terms, I think the intolerant right is intolerant of the left, and the intolerant left is intolerant of the right, and both the right and left are intolerant of each other. The same goes for respect, and it is not all on both sides.


Everything means nothing, nothing means everything, and everybody is nobody.

I tried to be more vague than you, but failed.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:21 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump isn’t any better when it comes to debating

Biden has to move to the left as much as possible to appease Bernie Supporters and other leftists. Most Republicans don't consider Biden as centrist as he claims to be and as the leftist media loves to portray him, once the one on one debates began, Biden cant hide. Granted, the independents are the ones who will count either way. Contrary to certain opinions on this thread and site, I am not the only one who thinks so.


God I wish Biden would move to the left, but don't hold your breath. He'll remain as conservative as he is right now.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:23 pm

Kannap wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:I hope whoever wins America’s election will take action against China, since their lies have caused the deaths of over a million people worldwide, and they continue bullying everyone in Asia and creating puppet states like Nepal, Pakistan, and Laos.


I hope the world retroactively takes action against the United States for the Spanish flu too, while we're at it.

Did America actively lie and suppress statistics, and arrest doctors to prevent bad image, causing the global spread of the pandemic during the Spanish Flu?
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:25 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I hope the world retroactively takes action against the United States for the Spanish flu too, while we're at it.

Did America actively lie and suppress statistics


Misrepresented, downplayed, sure. Anything and everything short of actively lying.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:37 pm


It's too much information and at the same time not enough. What else can Biden say to these people 3 months and a week before election day when he needs their donations to defeat this true threat to democracy which is Donald Trump?

Biden has been quoted twice in the article but if you look at the download there's a bit more. “I come from the corporate state of America, many of you incorporated here,” said Mr. Biden. “It used to be that corporate America had a sense of responsibility beyond just CEO salaries and shareholders.”

“Corporate America has to change its ways. It’s not going to require legislation. I’m not proposing any. We’ve got to think about how we deal people back in.”

Biden is speaking of Delaware as the corporate state, which it is. I think Joe is signaling his expectations are to see improvements in corporate responsibility. That's good. But he's also talking about "re-imagining and rebuilding a new American economy" if you look at the download. So this is Joe sweet talking them politically for financial support and asking for their help after the election to build a better economy that deals people in. That's how a Dem needs to talk to business leaders if he wants to get elected.

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