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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:37 pm

Cisairse wrote:EBO has a Senate map now

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Sen. Jodi Ernst (R-IA) is running such a terrible campaign. She really made Iowa in play for the Democrats. She is the Mark Udall (D-CO) of the 2020 election.

Kansas might surprise people. The two top Republicans; Dr. Roger Marshall and Kris Kobach are being out-raised by the Democrat Dr. Barbara Boiler, even when you combined their money. If Kobach wins the primary, Dems could easily take Kansas. Kobach was rejected by KS voters in the 2018 gubernatorial election.

It's also important to note the Boiler was a Republican up until 2018, so she does have moderate blood and Republican roots.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:28 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The Lincoln project is run by warhawks who supported the Iraq war, and probably wanted Trump to send a full on D-Day invasion force to Tehran in January

So all the more reason to support Trump?

What?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Holy Shit. The backswing of a baseball bat.

Eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh, I don't like this one mostly because of the swing on the back end. The hacky cynical tone deaf callous opportunistic sleaziness of trying to mine schadenfreude for your favorite political target out of the Epstien case is just fucking sleazy and disrespectful to the legitimate victims who by the way can hear us (not us on NSG, what in the holy fuck would they be doing here, but these fucked off attempts to dunk by association instead of focusing on, you know, a guy who pimped out underage women) Money likes money, politics like money, Epstien had a mysterious amount of money, Trump would be around him, Clinton would be around him. By most non-opportunistic accounts both of them cut their ties with Epstien before his legal troubles and both because the dude weirded them out.

That Trump doesn't seem to see it as that big of a problem is telling, but instead of speculating on this connection from rich dudes photographed at rich dude parties, we have him bragging into a microphone about being able to barge into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms. We don't have to cast our line in troubled waters, like many things his dumb ass flopped up onto the dock all on his own.


This one had me feeling a bit uncomfortable too. They say all is fair in love and war, and Epstein's obsession with pedophilia is perverted and the insinuation is the lowest of low blows to be sure. Otoh I'm damn sure if roles were reversed Trump would have no qualms in making the same allegations as in the ad with the difference being he'd say it himself and repeat it over and over and over again. He wouldn't want any surrogate group such as the Lincoln Project messaging this bc he enjoys slinging the fecal matters much too much.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:39 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh, I don't like this one mostly because of the swing on the back end. The hacky cynical tone deaf callous opportunistic sleaziness of trying to mine schadenfreude for your favorite political target out of the Epstien case is just fucking sleazy and disrespectful to the legitimate victims who by the way can hear us (not us on NSG, what in the holy fuck would they be doing here, but these fucked off attempts to dunk by association instead of focusing on, you know, a guy who pimped out underage women) Money likes money, politics like money, Epstien had a mysterious amount of money, Trump would be around him, Clinton would be around him. By most non-opportunistic accounts both of them cut their ties with Epstien before his legal troubles and both because the dude weirded them out.

That Trump doesn't seem to see it as that big of a problem is telling, but instead of speculating on this connection from rich dudes photographed at rich dude parties, we have him bragging into a microphone about being able to barge into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms. We don't have to cast our line in troubled waters, like many things his dumb ass flopped up onto the dock all on his own.


This one had me feeling a bit uncomfortable too. They say all is fair in love and war, and Epstein's obsession with pedophilia is perverted and the insinuation is the lowest of low blows to be sure. Otoh I'm damn sure if roles were reversed Trump would have no qualms in making the same allegations as in the ad with the difference being he'd say it himself and repeat it over and over and over again. He wouldn't want any surrogate group such as the Lincoln Project messaging this bc he enjoys slinging the fecal matters much too much.

They could have kept it focused on how he treats women, which would be a ding considering he is trying to "court" suburban housewives
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:44 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
This one had me feeling a bit uncomfortable too. They say all is fair in love and war, and Epstein's obsession with pedophilia is perverted and the insinuation is the lowest of low blows to be sure. Otoh I'm damn sure if roles were reversed Trump would have no qualms in making the same allegations as in the ad with the difference being he'd say it himself and repeat it over and over and over again. He wouldn't want any surrogate group such as the Lincoln Project messaging this bc he enjoys slinging the fecal matters much too much.

They could have kept it focused on how he treats women, which would be a ding considering he is trying to "court" suburban housewives

Given that there should be suburban housewives with children, especially daughters, the brutality of the message will be effective. They could have used his creepy talk about Ivanka or evdn bragging about walking into teen pageant dressing rooms if they were being no holds barred.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:51 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:They could have kept it focused on how he treats women, which would be a ding considering he is trying to "court" suburban housewives

Given that there should be suburban housewives with children, especially daughters, the brutality of the message will be effective. They could have used his creepy talk about Ivanka or evdn bragging about walking into teen pageant dressing rooms if they were being no holds barred.

I think it would have been more effective to point out the creepy talk about Ivanka or the walking into teen pageant dressing rooms.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:53 pm

Gormwood wrote:Holy Shit. The backswing of a baseball bat.


Whether this works or not depends on whether Maxwell has something on Trump.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:55 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Holy Shit. The backswing of a baseball bat.


Whether this works or not depends on whether Maxwell has something on Trump.
Guilt by association is only bad ... if he's not guilty.

I think Trump is begging her to keep quiet while trying to keep from telling the public that she has things on him. If he gives away a tell it's orange blood in the water.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:05 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Whether this works or not depends on whether Maxwell has something on Trump.
Guilt by association is only bad ... if he's not guilty.

I think Trump is begging her to keep quiet while trying to keep from telling the public that she has things on him. If he gives away a tell it's orange blood in the water.


If we were a bit more disciplined though, we wouldn't make a big fuss about "I wish her well" and he might start talking about pre-emptive pardon. That would be gold!

Lincoln Project might be a false flag operation trying to mine out all the good stuff so it has less impact in the last month.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:07 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Gormwood wrote:I think Trump is begging her to keep quiet while trying to keep from telling the public that she has things on him. If he gives away a tell it's orange blood in the water.


If we were a bit more disciplined though, we wouldn't make a big fuss about "I wish her well" and he might start talking about pre-emptive pardon. That would be gold!

Lincoln Project might be a false flag operation trying to mine out all the good stuff so it has less impact in the last month.

With how mad they're making him, I doubt it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:10 pm

Gormwood wrote:Holy Shit. The backswing of a baseball bat.

You ask a lot of stupid questions, without the questions, Trump attack adds out of context, you love to post anti Trump campaign ads.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:17 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Holy Shit. The backswing of a baseball bat.

You ask a lot of stupid questions, without the questions, Trump attack adds out of context, you love to post anti Trump campaign ads.


What even? Backing out of debate with Neutraligon who is far more polite, has left you so grumpy that you're having a go at Gormwood?

Seems like a good time to take a break. I have to do that sometimes :)
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:21 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:You ask a lot of stupid questions, without the questions, Trump attack adds out of context, you love to post anti Trump campaign ads.


What even? Backing out of debate with Neutraligon who is far more polite, has left you so grumpy that you're having a go at Gormwood?

Seems like a good time to take a break. I have to do that sometimes :)

lol, good post my friend, :)
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:25 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Godamn I wish I had the video for this, on ABC News Aaron Perini or something like that (no graphic), just closed out her scree trying to bring the fight to Biden for the Trump account said the funniest fucking shit.

She was really trying to slice the pie on Biden 'defunding the police' despite proposing $300 million more...this motherfucker, with a straight face mind you, goes "Biden goes out and says something and then his people have to come out and clarify what he means because he clearly went off script. President Trump has been crystal clear..."



Oooooh lordy. So, once again, Trump and the Republicans are going to project their own weaknesses on their opponents and think we're too dumb to notice.

I agree with the Republicans, lol.


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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:27 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I agree with the Republicans, lol.


I am shocked. Stocked I am.

I am not shocked you agree with the Democrats, :)
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:29 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am shocked. Stocked I am.

I am not shocked you agree with the Democrats, :)


Well cultist.....the problem?.....I am not a democrat.

You going to present your evidence for Trump?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:30 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I agree with the Republicans, lol.


I am shocked. Stocked I am.

Stocked?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not shocked you agree with the Democrats, :)


Well cultist.....the problem?.....I am not a democrat.

You going to present your evidence for Trump?

You might not be a Democrat but you agree with the Democrats, :) and I am not shocked about it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:32 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am shocked. Stocked I am.

Stocked?
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:D. I have never said I was the best writer.

I am over stocked with You have your opinions and I have my opinions arguments.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:33 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Well cultist.....the problem?.....I am not a democrat.

You going to present your evidence for Trump?

You might not be a Democrat but you agree with the Democrats, :) and I am not shocked about it.


Well? If the Democrats presented such an incompetent candidate as trump; I would be siding with the greens or libertarians.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:You might not be a Democrat but you agree with the Democrats, :) and I am not shocked about it.


Well? If the Democrats presented such an incompetent candidate as trump; I would be siding with the greens or libertarians.

Hmm, justice party I think for me, if they still exist
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:41 pm

GOP's Gohmert introduces resolution that would ban the Democratic Party
So a Republican senator is trying to introduce a resolution to ban the Democratic Party based on the logic that since Confederatate statues are being taken down the Democratic Party should be banned because they supported slavery a century ago, so I'm totally sure he also wants to ban the Republican party since they are the ones actively defending the statues and the Confederacy TODAY. :roll:

More likely he's just being a troll who thinks he's making a point.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:43 pm

Genivaria wrote:GOP's Gohmert introduces resolution that would ban the Democratic Party
So a Republican senator is trying to introduce a resolution to ban the Democratic Party based on the logic that since Confederatate statues are being taken down the Democratic Party should be banned because they supported slavery a century ago, so I'm totally sure he also wants to ban the Republican party since they are the ones actively defending the statues and the Confederacy TODAY. :roll:

More likely he's just being a troll who thinks he's making a point.


Gohmert is brain dead. You gave him too much credit by reading the article.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Genivaria wrote:GOP's Gohmert introduces resolution that would ban the Democratic Party
So a Republican senator is trying to introduce a resolution to ban the Democratic Party based on the logic that since Confederatate statues are being taken down the Democratic Party should be banned because they supported slavery a century ago, so I'm totally sure he also wants to ban the Republican party since they are the ones actively defending the statues and the Confederacy TODAY. :roll:

More likely he's just being a troll who thinks he's making a point.


Gohmert is brain dead. You gave him too much credit by reading the article.

I have to take attempts to ban other parties seriously, my anxiety is constantly making me paranoid that we're a week away from the Enabling Act, or at least an attempt at it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:GOP's Gohmert introduces resolution that would ban the Democratic Party
So a Republican senator is trying to introduce a resolution to ban the Democratic Party based on the logic that since Confederatate statues are being taken down the Democratic Party should be banned because they supported slavery a century ago, so I'm totally sure he also wants to ban the Republican party since they are the ones actively defending the statues and the Confederacy TODAY. :roll:

More likely he's just being a troll who thinks he's making a point.

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