2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Farnhamia]

And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

Doesn't mean our media is great though.

Yes, well, as those great 20th century American philosophers, Paul Simon and Arthur Garfunkle wrote, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

[Valrifell]

And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

Doesn't mean our media is great though.

Sure, American media is owned by a select few media ventures. However, that does not give folks the right to dismiss whatever they say out of hand. Anyone good at researching a topic would know that you have to get your information from a bunch of sources and try to read past any detected bias to get good info out of it.

That is to say, the corrupt nature of the American media can only go so far to excuse media illiteracy.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

And many Americans do this as well in astroturfing efforts. Internal misinformation, external manipulation, it all sucks. It's the bourgeoisie playing with us like we're pawns in a massive game of chess.

I agree. There are many dishonest elements out there who are out to sow distrust in American journalism and American institutions. They have all been known to create fake accounts to promote this distrust.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Doesn't mean our media is great though.

Sure, American media is owned by a select few media ventures. However, that does not give folks the right to dismiss whatever they say out of hand. Anyone good at researching a topic would know that you have to get your information from a bunch of sources and try to read past any detected bias to get good info out of it.

That is to say, the corrupt nature of the American media can only go so far to excuse media illiteracy.

I'm not excusing ignorance or conspiracy theorizing but I am saying that there are significant problems with our media, especially with sensationalism biases, or when they jump to conclusions when they don't have all the facts. Criticism in and of itself does not make one a Russian puppet.

[Slavakino]

Yeah, the US media is pretty known for being unreliable and biased

And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

If you're implying I'm a Russian bot I can assure you I'm not. I'm an Australian-Serb

[Aureumterra]

And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

And many Americans do this as well in astroturfing efforts. Internal misinformation, external manipulation, it all sucks. It's the bourgeoisie playing with us like we're pawns in a massive game of chess.

You had me interested until you started spouting Marxist nonsense

[Nobel Hobos 2]

And many Americans do this as well in astroturfing efforts. Internal misinformation, external manipulation, it all sucks. It's the bourgeoisie playing with us like we're pawns in a massive game of chess.

You had me interested until you started spouting Marxist nonsense

Reply to the part you are "interested" in then

[Vassenor]

So you complain about the lack of a proper leftist party... while plugging the more unambiguously right-wing candidate as the better one. Huh.

Also Trump couldn't even get 50% in 2016, and is arguably less popular now than he was then. So not sure how you see him getting a result like that.

I only go for leaders whose policies are good for their nation and good for me.

-looks at the damage Trump's policies has done to America-

[The Black Forrest]

So you complain about the lack of a proper leftist party... while plugging the more unambiguously right-wing candidate as the better one. Huh.

Also Trump couldn't even get 50% in 2016, and is arguably less popular now than he was then. So not sure how you see him getting a result like that.

I only go for leaders whose policies are good for their nation and good for me.

Ah. So what policies would those be?

[Kannap]

The pettiness unleashed might result in the White House getting burned down again since 1812.

What's he going to do? Start a nuclear war because he's mad he lost? The 25th amendment would be invoked.

The 25th amendment being invoked is an overly optimistic idea of what would happen as the result of a nuclear war

[Nobel Hobos 2]

What's he going to do? Start a nuclear war because he's mad he lost? The 25th amendment would be invoked.

The 25th amendment being invoked is an overly optimistic idea of what would happen as the result of a nuclear war

Probably. But the button might just not work. I know you say it's fail safe, but no machine is safe from VP Pence praying at it.

[The Black Forrest]

The 25th amendment being invoked is an overly optimistic idea of what would happen as the result of a nuclear war

Probably. But the button might just not work. I know you say it's fail safe, but no machine is safe from VP Pence praying at it.

He can pray all it wants. There is a protocol for launches. Trump loosing is not a threat to the country. He also weakened his military support when he said Mattis wasn’t a real Marine......

[Slavakino]

I only go for leaders whose policies are good for their nation and good for me.

Ah. So what policies would those be?

Look at my sig, gives you an idea

[Vassenor]

Ah. So what policies would those be?

Look at my sig, gives you an idea

Ah, so oppression of the people you think are icky.

[Slavakino]

Look at my sig, gives you an idea

Ah, so oppression of the people you think are icky.

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Ah, so oppression of the people you think are icky.

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

Vassenor just asked what issues you want a leader to support. You said "Look at my sig"

Can't you even be polite when asked a question about your own beliefs?

[Vassenor]

Ah, so oppression of the people you think are icky.

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

That tends to be what the anti-LGBT Rights movement tends to boil down to.

[Thermodolia]

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

That tends to be what the anti-LGBT Rights movement tends to boil down to.

Well not always, I’m gonna play Devils advocate here. Sometimes they could be fine with LGBT people by themselves but aren’t ok with all the pride parades or the other “overly political” aspects of the movement.

So on occasion you can have those who are ok with LGBT people but not ok with the movement, if that makes any sense

[Slavakino]

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

That tends to be what the anti-LGBT Rights movement tends to boil down to.

Knew it

[Vassenor]

That tends to be what the anti-LGBT Rights movement tends to boil down to.

Knew it

[Slavakino]

I sense a bullshit answer is gonna appear if I say anything

Vassenor just asked what issues you want a leader to support. You said "Look at my sig"

Can't you even be polite when asked a question about your own beliefs?

Let's just say over the past interactions with Vass has lead to large distrust

[Vassenor]

Vassenor just asked what issues you want a leader to support. You said "Look at my sig"

Can't you even be polite when asked a question about your own beliefs?

Let's just say over the past interactions with Vass has lead to large distrust

Yeah, I insisted on arguing with evidence.

[Slavakino]

Let's just say over the past interactions with Vass has lead to large distrust

Yeah, I insisted on arguing with evidence.

And as I try to counter about your evidence you deny it and try to prolonge an argument

[Vassenor]

Yeah, I insisted on arguing with evidence.

And as I try to counter about your evidence you deny it and try to prolonge an argument

To counter evidence you need to present evidence. You never did.

[Slavakino]

And as I try to counter about your evidence you deny it and try to prolonge an argument

To counter evidence you need to present evidence. You never did.

I pretty much give up on it when it comes to you specifically