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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:23 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.


If Biden takes FL by a decisive margin the expected election night drama could fizzle out early. I think that would be awesome. I suppose it'll depend on the % of votes cast by mail-in ballots.


That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
If Biden takes FL by a decisive margin the expected election night drama could fizzle out early. I think that would be awesome. I suppose it'll depend on the % of votes cast by mail-in ballots.


That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.


104 days to go. Then 78 more days with lame duck Trump in office. During those 78 days somebody needs to keep an eye on the silverware.
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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
If Biden takes FL by a decisive margin the expected election night drama could fizzle out early. I think that would be awesome. I suppose it'll depend on the % of votes cast by mail-in ballots.


That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.

And the fall of the USA
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:31 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.


104 days to go. Then 78 more days with lame duck Trump in office. During those 78 days somebody needs to keep an eye on the silverware.

Who cares about the silverware? Let him have it. Lame duck sessions of congress rarely do signifiant things.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:32 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.


104 days to go. Then 78 more days with lame duck Trump in office. During those 78 days somebody needs to keep an eye on the silverware.

The pettiness unleashed might result in the White House getting burned down again since 1812.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:34 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
104 days to go. Then 78 more days with lame duck Trump in office. During those 78 days somebody needs to keep an eye on the silverware.

The pettiness unleashed might result in the White House getting burned down again since 1812.

What's he going to do? Start a nuclear war because he's mad he lost? The 25th amendment would be invoked.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:The pettiness unleashed might result in the White House getting burned down again since 1812.

What's he going to do? Start a nuclear war because he's mad he lost? The 25th amendment would be invoked.

Arson more likely. "If I can't have it noone will, waaaaaah!"
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:38 pm

Slavakino wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That would be great to have a early night and hopefully we can actually celebrate the defeat of Trump.

And the fall of the USA


Well maybe if trump stands on the edge of either the west or east coasts.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:38 pm

Gormwood wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What's he going to do? Start a nuclear war because he's mad he lost? The 25th amendment would be invoked.

Arson more likely. "If I can't have it noone will, waaaaaah!"


Let him try that. No one would stand for that. If would get out and even his yes man would involve the 25th amendment and let Pence take over till the inauguration

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:06 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Slavakino wrote:And the fall of the USA


Well maybe if trump stands on the edge of either the west or east coasts.

“Well I didn’t mean to push Trump into the ocean. It kinda just happened ya know”
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Arson more likely. "If I can't have it noone will, waaaaaah!"


Let him try that. No one would stand for that. If would get out and even his yes man would involve the 25th amendment and let Pence take over till the inauguration

If I am ever president my last day in office will take place one day before the inauguration, just so all my opponents stuff about how they are the 56th or what ever number becomes worthless as my VP will be that number
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:10 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Let him try that. No one would stand for that. If would get out and even his yes man would involve the 25th amendment and let Pence take over till the inauguration

If I am ever president my last day in office will take place one day before the inauguration, just so all my opponents stuff about how they are the 56th or what ever number becomes worthless as my VP will be that number


I would vote for you. Supposedly that occurred with David Rice Atchison in 1849 however the idea of him being President for day has been dismissed by nearly all historians, scholars, and biographers

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:20 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%


Fox also came out with three polls today too:

In Michigan, Biden leads 49% to 40%;

In Minnesota, Biden leads 51% to 38%;

and in Pennsylvania, Biden leads 50% to 38%.

Thermodolia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:New Florida Poll: Quinnipiac -Biden 51% Trump 38%

If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.


Undoubtedly so. Even though Trump is now saying this is a "serious problem" the damage is done and I doubt he'll keep that same temperament for this long. Not to mention, he still refuses to take responsibility and continues to pedal misinformation to downright falsehoods.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:33 pm


Trump does realize that it isn’t the 1960s anymore right?
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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:36 pm


>Washingtonpost
Ehhh wouldn't trust that, then again which source is even trustworthy in the USA?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:02 pm

Slavakino wrote:

>Washingtonpost
Ehhh wouldn't trust that, then again which source is even trustworthy in the USA?


Have they lied?

You have proof?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Trump does realize that it isn’t the 1960s anymore right?


Hmmmmm? Possible?

Trump tends to carry a grudge. Remember his dad was sued over the fair housing act. Add it Obama had a hand so Trump has to reverse it.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:12 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If this keeps up Trump is a goner. There is no way he can win without Florida, well not a realistic way as he’d also have to do without PA and MI.


If Biden takes FL by a decisive margin the expected election night drama could fizzle out early. I think that would be awesome. I suppose it'll depend on the % of votes cast by mail-in ballots.

Imagine losing Florida if you're Trump. That's gotta be embarrassing. Maybe he should hide in the Mar-a-Lago bunker if that happens.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:48 pm


He's still sore about getting sued for housing discrimination, the fucking manbaby.
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:56 pm

Slavakino wrote:

>Washingtonpost
Ehhh wouldn't trust that, then again which source is even trustworthy in the USA?


Do you know who else wants to sow doubt in American institutions? Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

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Postby Slavakino » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:28 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Slavakino wrote:>Washingtonpost
Ehhh wouldn't trust that, then again which source is even trustworthy in the USA?


Do you know who else wants to sow doubt in American institutions? Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

Yeah, the US media is pretty known for being unreliable and biased
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:43 pm

Slavakino wrote:
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Do you know who else wants to sow doubt in American institutions? Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

Yeah, the US media is pretty known for being unreliable and biased


And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:45 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Yeah, the US media is pretty known for being unreliable and biased


And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

Doesn't mean our media is great though.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:46 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Slavakino wrote:Yeah, the US media is pretty known for being unreliable and biased


And Russians are known to use fake accounts on social media to spread disinformation and sow distrust.

And many Americans do this as well in astroturfing efforts. Internal misinformation, external manipulation, it all sucks. It's the bourgeoisie playing with us like we're pawns in a massive game of chess.
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