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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:22 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Being an authoritarian doesn’t make one an automatic fascist though. Trump is much closer to a National Conservative than a fascist.

Hell the actual fascists and neo nazis don’t like Trump because he’s not fascist

Great Post therm, I am a nationalist conservative too. As you are a self declared nationalist socialist. Not the fascist Nazi type, of course.

I’m not a nationalist socialist. I’m a Titoist, an authoritarian socialist with nationalist leanings.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:05 pm

Unable to land any hits on Biden, Trump is now painting Bidenm as a socialist Trojan Horse, which was bound to happen. They'll likely tie him to "defunding the police", which he doesn't support though they claim he is using "coded language" to hide that fact; it hasn't worked so far.

Some of the things that failed to stick on Biden:

1. Hunter/Burisma
2. Mentally and physically unfit
3. Mocked his verbal stumbles
4. A tool for the Chinese

So, let's call him a socialist, because the S-Word is scary to Americans. Damn, they're just hoping something sticks at this point.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:12 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Unable to land any hits on Biden, Trump is now painting Bidenm as a socialist Trojan Horse, which was bound to happen. They'll likely tie him to "defunding the police", which he doesn't support though they claim he is using "coded language" to hide that fact; it hasn't worked so far.

Some of the things that failed to stick on Biden:

1. Hunter/Burisma
2. Mentally and physically unfit
3. Mocked his verbal stumbles
4. A tool for the Chinese

So, let's call him a socialist, because the S-Word is scary to Americans. Damn, they're just hoping something sticks at this point.

With all the bummed out Sanders and Warren voters going, "Yeah, we wish..." this should be street tires in the mud as well.




If i just leave it at that, maybe I can create the impression that 'street tires in the mud' is totally something people say...
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:42 pm

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Postby Kannap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:50 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:59 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

I doubt he gets much support with comments like that. He’s worse than trump and that’s saying something
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:05 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.


Finally a candidate that reflects my views and also has a 132-point IQ!
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Postby No State Here » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:08 pm

Another random meme because I don’t have much to do in lockdown

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:09 pm

No State Here wrote:Another random meme because I don’t have much to do in lockdown



This is honestly my favorite of what you posted recently.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:26 pm

No State Here wrote:Another random meme because I don’t have much to do in lockdown


This reminds me of an article, from a month but still relevant
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
No State Here wrote:Another random meme because I don’t have much to do in lockdown


This reminds me of an article, from a month but still relevant
Jill Stein cost Hillary dearly in 2016. Democrats are still writing off her successor.

Assuming that Biden is the exact same thing as Clinton. Brilliant.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:30 pm

Since 538 still hasn't released a projection model yet, I am going to use the Economist's model for this instead.
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The only difference between these maps and 2016's is these are based on 15%, not 20%, as that was about the probability 538 gave Wisconsin on the day of the 2020 election.
Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

I thought this was posted on a parody news site when I first saw this post.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:07 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

I thought he dropped out
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:09 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
No State Here wrote:Another random meme because I don’t have much to do in lockdown


This reminds me of an article, from a month but still relevant
Jill Stein cost Hillary dearly in 2016. Democrats are still writing off her successor.

That article is utter bullshit. If nobody voted for third parties it’s highly likely that Trump still would be president and would have won the popular vote given that the libertarians got 4 million votes nation wide and Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million.
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Postby Kannap » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:24 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

I thought he dropped out


I thought so too
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Postby Cisairse » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Unable to land any hits on Biden, Trump is now painting Bidenm as a socialist Trojan Horse, which was bound to happen. They'll likely tie him to "defunding the police", which he doesn't support though they claim he is using "coded language" to hide that fact; it hasn't worked so far.

Some of the things that failed to stick on Biden:

1. Hunter/Burisma
2. Mentally and physically unfit
3. Mocked his verbal stumbles
4. A tool for the Chinese

So, let's call him a socialist, because the S-Word is scary to Americans. Damn, they're just hoping something sticks at this point.


god I wish biden was a socialist trojan horse
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:56 pm

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:40 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:Biden is a syndicalist puppet.

Awesome post, we agree on an anti Biden Post.
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:This reminds me of an article, from a month but still relevant
Jill Stein cost Hillary dearly in 2016. Democrats are still writing off her successor.

That article is utter bullshit. If nobody voted for third parties it’s highly likely that Trump still would be president and would have won the popular vote given that the libertarians got 4 million votes nation wide and Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million.


I read your response. You say the article is BS, but ignore the fact that Jill Stein's margins exceeded Trump's margin of victory in key states. That, to me, totally, 100% confirms the validity of the article.

Also, there is the completely baseless assumption that all Libertarians would have voted for Trump given the option of voting D, voting R or not voting. You're assuming that Libertarians wouldn't have stayed home. You're also assuming that Libertarians, who believe in certain principles, would automatically back Donald Trump, who has no principles.

I'm frankly surprised that anyone would so viciously attack the integrity of people who voted for the Libertarian Party in 2016. If anything, you should apologize to them.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:32 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.

He has Hydrocephalus and believes that is a good thing ? Seriously ?
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:37 pm

Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.


I imagine the actual costs of running a real election campaign mean this attention seeking idiocy will be short lived.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:06 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Kannap wrote:Kanye had his first campaign rally in South Carolina and it went worse than a Trump rally, believe it or not.

TL;DR:
>Kanye said Harriet Tubman didn't free slaves, she took them to work for other white people.
>He said he's not against abortion, but every pregnant woman should be given one million dollars as encouragement and support for raising the child.
>He'll legalize marijuana and make it free
>He wants people to stop watching porn
>He also wants to be placed on the corporate boards of Gap and Adidas or else he'll terminate his relationship with them.
>Social media and prescription drugs are brainwashing people
>Kanye has a 132-point IQ and went to the hospital because his brain was too big to fit in his skull.


I imagine the actual costs of running a real election campaign mean this attention seeking idiocy will be short lived.


Still, imagine how many people would suddenly become pro choice if they get a million dollars for it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:53 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
I imagine the actual costs of running a real election campaign mean this attention seeking idiocy will be short lived.


Still, imagine how many people would suddenly become pro choice if they get a million dollars for it.

Imagine how many people would suddenly become anti pro choice if they get a million dollars for it, which is what he is saying. I am anti pro choice, as I consider abortion to be preventing the life of a person to be, where is my million dollars? :) ok he is saying every women, I'm a dude.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:47 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Still, imagine how many people would suddenly become pro choice if they get a million dollars for it.

Imagine how many people would suddenly become anti pro choice if they get a million dollars for it, which is what he is saying. I am anti pro choice, as I consider abortion to be preventing the life of a person to be, where is my million dollars? :) ok he is saying every women, I'm a dude.


Pro choice means having a choice. Most pro choice people dislike abortion.

This positive incentive - we will help you with raising this unwanted child - is a vastly superior solution than most things the pro.life side has suggested, which mostly boils down to "who cares the unwanted child is raised in poverty and abuse".

It is still silly and impractical, but his heart is in the right place.
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