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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Valrifell » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:58 am

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Probably voted for Libertarian or Constitution Party given her views.

She’s not a libertarian lmao, she hates civil liberties.


Yeah, so she's a Libertarian :p
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:22 pm

Cisairse wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Bruh Biden lookin pretty good


I'm honestly considering voting for him now


I feel like I missed some news or something, did something happen?
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:27 pm

Gormwood wrote:Ah. Political nihilism.


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Postby No State Here » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:01 pm

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Tbf, I wonder why that is not a more common view amongst Republicans. After all, Trump has not actually achieved anything noteworthy* during his presidency - except breaking the records for time at the golf course.

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* That is assuming that said Republicans refuse to hold the commander-in-chief and leader of the country responsible for responding to pandemics and raceriots ofc.

Maybe because most of us on NS are political junkies,

*Leftist political junkies, on this thread at least. Not that that’s necessarily a bad thing, but the overwhelming majority of the site, right now, seems to be in a mutual consensus that Trump is bad, Biden is slightly better, progressivism is good, etc. It’s kinda like the "Twitter Bubble" from 2016
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:28 pm

Valrifell wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:She’s not a libertarian lmao, she hates civil liberties.


Yeah, so she's a Libertarian :p

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:31 pm

No State Here wrote:
Czechostan wrote:Maybe because most of us on NS are political junkies,

*Leftist political junkies, on this thread at least. Not that that’s necessarily a bad thing, but the overwhelming majority of the site, right now, seems to be in a mutual consensus that Trump is bad, Biden is slightly better, progressivism is good, etc. It’s kinda like the "Twitter Bubble" from 2016

While are a lot of leftists on the site it isn’t a majority. There’s a lot more liberals than not.

Also right wing posters can be political junkies and we have had quite a few
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
She probably thought that Trump would actually have a wall built at the southern border, paid for by Mexico.

I'm no fan of Ann Coulter, but she knows that she was played for a sucker... and she's doing something about it.

Actually her beef started back in 2016 pre wall. She never voted for Trump


https://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-tur ... tter-rant/

From what I read in the article, it seems like she voted for him. She even wrote this obnoxious book in support of him.
Coulter disagreed with Trump for basically not being Conservative enough. She announced an open break from the Trump Cult last year.
It's so sad that the Ann Coulter types get constantly played for suckers by conmen like Donald Trump.

Discerning voters should be wary of all politicians, even the ones that claim to support our issues and our world view.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:01 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually her beef started back in 2016 pre wall. She never voted for Trump


https://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-tur ... tter-rant/

From what I read in the article, it seems like she voted for him. She even wrote this obnoxious book in support of him.
Coulter disagreed with Trump for basically not being Conservative enough. She announced an open break from the Trump Cult last year.
It's so sad that the Ann Coulter types get constantly played for suckers by conmen like Donald Trump.

Discerning voters should be wary of all politicians, even the ones that claim to support our issues and our world view.

It's not like Trump's con artistry was sudden and unexpected. The GOP got greedy and made a deal with an orange gargoyle statue.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:51 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually her beef started back in 2016 pre wall. She never voted for Trump


https://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-tur ... tter-rant/

From what I read in the article, it seems like she voted for him. She even wrote this obnoxious book in support of him.
Coulter disagreed with Trump for basically not being Conservative enough. She announced an open break from the Trump Cult last year.
It's so sad that the Ann Coulter types get constantly played for suckers by conmen like Donald Trump.

Discerning voters should be wary of all politicians, even the ones that claim to support our issues and our world view.

This is the article I was talking about. She has had many issues with Trump starting in 2016

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... -1.2582185
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
https://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-tur ... tter-rant/

From what I read in the article, it seems like she voted for him. She even wrote this obnoxious book in support of him.
Coulter disagreed with Trump for basically not being Conservative enough. She announced an open break from the Trump Cult last year.
It's so sad that the Ann Coulter types get constantly played for suckers by conmen like Donald Trump.

Discerning voters should be wary of all politicians, even the ones that claim to support our issues and our world view.

This is the article I was talking about. She has had many issues with Trump starting in 2016

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... -1.2582185

So did Lindsey Graham and other Republicans; now they've done a 180 and back Trump 24/7.
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Postby The Andromeda Island Group » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:This is the article I was talking about. She has had many issues with Trump starting in 2016

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... -1.2582185


A person like Coulter would never be 100% happy with anyone other than herself running for office. And, in this day & age, her total lack of credibility might actually be an advantage in a Republican primary.

People like Ann Coulter and Donald Trump deserve each other.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm

The Andromeda Island Group wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:This is the article I was talking about. She has had many issues with Trump starting in 2016

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politi ... -1.2582185


A person like Coulter would never be 100% happy with anyone other than herself running for office. And, in this day & age, her total lack of credibility might actually be an advantage in a Republican primary.

People like Ann Coulter and Donald Trump deserve each other.

I doubt she'd ever run and if she did would likely do so in Florida since that's where she votes. Given how good the Florida Democrats are at losing I could see her winning.

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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:28 am

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Postby La Xinga » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:29 am

For the people that voted "yes" for who and how come?

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:01 am

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... 712_TX.pdf

Holy cow!!!! A new poll has Biden up five in Texas!!!! I think it’s very possible it’s a toss up. If it flips Trump is toast as is the gop as there is zero path to 270 without it

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:55 am

San Lumen wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200712_TX.pdf

Holy cow!!!! A new poll has Biden up five in Texas!!!! I think it’s very possible it’s a toss up. If it flips Trump is toast as is the gop as there is zero path to 270 without it

CBS News Poll - Florida: Biden 48% - Trump 42%

He hasn't a prayer without Florida either. And Florida is also cattle country. :lol2:
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Postby Zurkerx » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:12 am

San Lumen wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200712_TX.pdf

Holy cow!!!! A new poll has Biden up five in Texas!!!! I think it’s very possible it’s a toss up. If it flips Trump is toast as is the gop as there is zero path to 270 without it


It extremely doubtful: Texas I still view will go red, but it'll be closer. Texas is definitely not a Swing State, at least, not right now.

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200712_TX.pdf

Holy cow!!!! A new poll has Biden up five in Texas!!!! I think it’s very possible it’s a toss up. If it flips Trump is toast as is the gop as there is zero path to 270 without it

CBS News Poll - Florida: Biden 48% - Trump 42%

He hasn't a prayer without Florida either. And Florida is also cattle country. :lol2:


Florida is much more likely to go blue, as is Arizona though a CBS Polls has Biden and Trump tied at 46%. Either way, the polling, even if it is understating Trump's support, is reflective of his poor handling of the virus, race issues, and well, just many things beside the economy.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:14 am

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200712_TX.pdf

Holy cow!!!! A new poll has Biden up five in Texas!!!! I think it’s very possible it’s a toss up. If it flips Trump is toast as is the gop as there is zero path to 270 without it


It extremely doubtful: Texas I still view will go red, but it'll be closer. Texas is definitely not a Swing State, at least, not right now.

Jerzylvania wrote:CBS News Poll - Florida: Biden 48% - Trump 42%

He hasn't a prayer without Florida either. And Florida is also cattle country. :lol2:


Florida is much more likely to go blue, as is Arizona though a CBS Polls has Biden and Trump tied at 46%. Either way, the polling, even if it is understating Trump's support, is reflective of his poor handling of the virus, race issues, and well, just many things beside the economy.

Texas is doable if people vote. The state doesn’t have very good voter turnout. If more people in the most populous counties voted the state could flip albeit narrowly

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Postby Kenche Gle » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:18 am

To be honest I find it incredibly unlikely that Joe Biden will have any sort of footing to win the election if he decides to debate against Trump
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:19 am

Kenche Gle wrote:To be honest I find it incredibly unlikely that Joe Biden will have any sort of footing to win the election if he decides to debate against Trump

What makes you say that?

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:21 am

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
It extremely doubtful: Texas I still view will go red, but it'll be closer. Texas is definitely not a Swing State, at least, not right now.



Florida is much more likely to go blue, as is Arizona though a CBS Polls has Biden and Trump tied at 46%. Either way, the polling, even if it is understating Trump's support, is reflective of his poor handling of the virus, race issues, and well, just many things beside the economy.

Texas is doable if people vote. The state doesn’t have very good voter turnout. If more people in the most populous counties voted the state could flip albeit narrowly

Dallas and Fort Worth are unusual as they are red cities and not democrat voting. That metro area will not vote democrat in enough numbers to flip from red to blue it’s just not happening.

Also that poll you linked to what was the rating given?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Texas is doable if people vote. The state doesn’t have very good voter turnout. If more people in the most populous counties voted the state could flip albeit narrowly

Dallas and Fort Worth are unusual as they are red cities and not democrat voting. That metro area will not vote democrat in enough numbers to flip from red to blue it’s just not happening.

Also that poll you linked to what was the rating given?

That’s not true. Dallas has shifted hard left in recent years and Fort Worth is 50-50 at this point

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Postby Kenche Gle » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Kenche Gle wrote:To be honest I find it incredibly unlikely that Joe Biden will have any sort of footing to win the election if he decides to debate against Trump

What makes you say that?

The fact that Biden has time and time again forgotten basic things (like the Declaration of Independence), confused numbers (the times he confused thousand-million-billion-trillion is just endless), he often goes on never-ending ramblings about unusual topics (like when he talked about his hairy legs). These are things that he WILL do in the debates and Trump will call him out on them in a manner that will make me feel sorry for Biden even existing.

tl;dr Biden would fail any debate simply due to the fact that his brain is too old.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Dallas and Fort Worth are unusual as they are red cities and not democrat voting. That metro area will not vote democrat in enough numbers to flip from red to blue it’s just not happening.

Also that poll you linked to what was the rating given?

That’s not true. Dallas has shifted hard left in recent years and Fort Worth is 50-50 at this point

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:35 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Dallas and Fort Worth are unusual as they are red cities and not democrat voting. That metro area will not vote democrat in enough numbers to flip from red to blue it’s just not happening.

Also that poll you linked to what was the rating given?

That’s not true. Dallas has shifted hard left in recent years and Fort Worth is 50-50 at this point

Dallas hasn’t done that at all. It’s not hard left at all. It’s barley democrat if anything. You aren’t going to get any more democrat votes out of that metro area. Face it Lumen texas isn’t going blue this year.

Also you have yet to answer my other question about the poll rating. Which makes me wonder how bad the poll might actually be
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