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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:24 am

Gormwood wrote:Who in their sound mind wants a White House cabinet staffed by Jenner/Kardashians?

Would be one way of getting a reboot of The West Wing. :p
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:26 am

Cisairse wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Who in their sound mind wants a White House cabinet staffed by Jenner/Kardashians?

Are you saying that Kushner is better?

Pfffft. I'm voting Biden, kthanx.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:26 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cisairse wrote:New Ipsos poll (1114 A; 538 B-) says presidential approval is Disapprove +19
[38% Approve; 57% Disapprove]

The last president to ever reach a -19 net approval rating in their first term was GHWB


Good... everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

How long before you declare you’re the senate?
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Postby New Eryon Vern » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:26 am

I mean I wasn't supporting Biden in the first place, but I was on the fence. Do I vote Trump? DO I vote Green Party? Do I write in Bernie?
Well the civil unrest and failure of the Democratic "Leadership" proved them to be beyond annoying. They're failures who believe a dementia-ridden senile creepy old man is the way to beat Trump. Even the ones who were supposed to be good, AOC, Ilhan Omar, proved to be nothing but Pelosi shills and weak. Voter shaming, actual collusion with foreign countries, the Bubba Wallace incident, Pointing the finger at Trump for Corona Virus instead of looking at blue state mayors and governors (and the WHO, and CDC. Fauci Lied about masks), supporting an anarchist "autonomous zone", defacing of American statues, wanting to blow up Mt. Rushmore, desecrating cities, burning buildings, looting stores, wasting political capital on nonsense, attacking of cops, and many, many other factors have brought me to the boiling point.
I will NOT be voting Biden, and I WILL be voting for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans this November. Until the Democratic Party can stop being such spineless corporation-lovers who whine about literally anything while caving to Republicans and not getting anything done, I will not be supporting the Democrats. I will not vote for their worthless politicians.

Also please stop voter shaming. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump, a vote for Green is a vote for Green. Not voting is not voting. A vote for Kanye is a vote for Kanye. Anything that isn't voting for Trump, isn't voting for Trump. IF you really believed that anything would split Biden's vote (especially Justin Amash, you think a libertarian who was a republican would split the democratic vote???), MAYBE, the Democrats shouldnot have ran such a weak candidate in the first place. If Biden really needs progressive support in order to win, maybe they should have, I don't know, ran a progressive.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:27 am

Cisairse wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Deadlines for ballot access are rabidly approaching in many states

Which states have rabies? :p

Mine
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Postby WayNeacTia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:28 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Good... everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

How long before you declare you’re the senate?

Hasn't McConnell done that already?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:28 am

New Eryon Vern wrote:I mean I wasn't supporting Biden in the first place, but I was on the fence. Do I vote Trump? DO I vote Green Party? Do I write in Bernie?
Well the civil unrest and failure of the Democratic "Leadership" proved them to be beyond annoying. They're failures who believe a dementia-ridden senile creepy old man is the way to beat Trump. Even the ones who were supposed to be good, AOC, Ilhan Omar, proved to be nothing but Pelosi shills and weak. Voter shaming, actual collusion with foreign countries, the Bubba Wallace incident, Pointing the finger at Trump for Corona Virus instead of looking at blue state mayors and governors (and the WHO, and CDC. Fauci Lied about masks), supporting an anarchist "autonomous zone", defacing of American statues, wanting to blow up Mt. Rushmore, desecrating cities, burning buildings, looting stores, wasting political capital on nonsense, attacking of cops, and many, many other factors have brought me to the boiling point.
I will NOT be voting Biden, and I WILL be voting for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans this November. Until the Democratic Party can stop being such spineless corporation-lovers who whine about literally anything while caving to Republicans and not getting anything done, I will not be supporting the Democrats. I will not vote for their worthless politicians.

Also please stop voter shaming. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump, a vote for Green is a vote for Green. Not voting is not voting. A vote for Kanye is a vote for Kanye. Anything that isn't voting for Trump, isn't voting for Trump. IF you really believed that anything would split Biden's vote (especially Justin Amash, you think a libertarian who was a republican would split the democratic vote???), MAYBE, the Democrats shouldnot have ran such a weak candidate in the first place. If Biden really needs progressive support in order to win, maybe they should have, I don't know, ran a progressive.

Yeah how dare people vote for who they want in the primary and anyone vote differently from you.

You have any evidence of your absurd claims?
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:28 am

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Are you saying that Kushner is better?

Pfffft. I'm voting Biden, kthanx.

And? I was comparing Kanye to Trump, not to Biden.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:29 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cisairse wrote:New Ipsos poll (1114 A; 538 B-) says presidential approval is Disapprove +19
[38% Approve; 57% Disapprove]

The last president to ever reach a -19 net approval rating in their first term was GHWB


Good... everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.


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Postby Cisairse » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:29 am

New Eryon Vern wrote:I mean I wasn't supporting Biden in the first place, but I was on the fence. Do I vote Trump? DO I vote Green Party? Do I write in Bernie?
Well the civil unrest and failure of the Democratic "Leadership" proved them to be beyond annoying. They're failures who believe a dementia-ridden senile creepy old man is the way to beat Trump. Even the ones who were supposed to be good, AOC, Ilhan Omar, proved to be nothing but Pelosi shills and weak. Voter shaming, actual collusion with foreign countries, the Bubba Wallace incident, Pointing the finger at Trump for Corona Virus instead of looking at blue state mayors and governors (and the WHO, and CDC. Fauci Lied about masks), supporting an anarchist "autonomous zone", defacing of American statues, wanting to blow up Mt. Rushmore, desecrating cities, burning buildings, looting stores, wasting political capital on nonsense, attacking of cops, and many, many other factors have brought me to the boiling point.
I will NOT be voting Biden, and I WILL be voting for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans this November. Until the Democratic Party can stop being such spineless corporation-lovers who whine about literally anything while caving to Republicans and not getting anything done, I will not be supporting the Democrats. I will not vote for their worthless politicians.

Also please stop voter shaming. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump, a vote for Green is a vote for Green. Not voting is not voting. A vote for Kanye is a vote for Kanye. Anything that isn't voting for Trump, isn't voting for Trump. IF you really believed that anything would split Biden's vote (especially Justin Amash, you think a libertarian who was a republican would split the democratic vote???), MAYBE, the Democrats shouldnot have ran such a weak candidate in the first place. If Biden really needs progressive support in order to win, maybe they should have, I don't know, ran a progressive.

Man you've really gone off the conspiracy-theory deep end huh
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Postby No State Here » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:52 am

Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense
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Postby Esotyrica » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 am

No State Here wrote:Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 am

No State Here wrote:Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense


This isn't new or unique to the Biden campaign, it's been a sentiment shared by partisans for decades. It's also something I change sides on a lot.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 am

Cisairse wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Pfffft. I'm voting Biden, kthanx.

And? I was comparing Kanye to Trump, not to Biden.

Both "choices" are incompetent and nepotistic. One just shows off more skin to tantalize reality show junkies.
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Postby Asle Leopolka » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:54 am

No State Here wrote:Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense

He's in the "Jill Stein and Gary Johnson cost Hill-Dog the election" camp.

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:And? I was comparing Kanye to Trump, not to Biden.

Both "choices" are incompetent and nepotistic. One just shows off more skin to tantalize reality show junkies.

The sad thing is a LOT of people will vote for Kanye "for the lolz."
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:02 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Both "choices" are incompetent and nepotistic. One just shows off more skin to tantalize reality show junkies.

The sad thing is a LOT of people will vote for Kanye "for the lolz."

Kanye West may currently be the one individual with even less competence and motivation than Trump. That easily amused meme addicts are likely to vote for him is an indictment of the pervasive Watch The World Burn mindset.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:02 am

Valrifell wrote:
Cisairse wrote:New Ipsos poll (1114 A; 538 B-) says presidential approval is Disapprove +19
[38% Approve; 57% Disapprove]

The last president to ever reach a -19 net approval rating in their first term was GHWB


Good... everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.


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I'm curious on how you seen this coming, boi :p
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:10 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Good... everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.


Image


I'm curious on how you seen this coming, boi :p


I've been saying that Trump is likely to be a one-term president since his election, with varying degrees of conviction since then.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:17 am

Valrifell wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
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I'm curious on how you seen this coming, boi :p


I've been saying that Trump is likely to be a one-term president since his election, with varying degrees of conviction since then.


Ah yes, you have. Now I see what you're talking about.

I wouldn't personally jump to the conclusion he'll be a one-term President just yet: we still have 4 months, and that's an eternity in politics. However, it seems his chances are slipping away, and if numbers like this maintain to election time, then I'll say he's toast.

In the meantime, an opinion piece believes that Tucker Carlson might have just handed Tammy Duckworth the Vice Presidency. While I doubt she'll be the one (I like her to be), Carlson certainly has given her more name recognition, and in a good way too: she smacked him down hard. Doesn't help he's still attacking her, which is actually helping her profile.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:18 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:
No State Here wrote:Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense

He's in the "Jill Stein and Gary Johnson cost Hill-Dog the election" camp.

Gormwood wrote:Both "choices" are incompetent and nepotistic. One just shows off more skin to tantalize reality show junkies.

The sad thing is a LOT of people will vote for Kanye "for the lolz."

That's if hes serious and gets on the ballot. the deadlines for ballot access are rapidly approaching in many states and write in laws vary.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:18 am

No State Here wrote:Apparently the Biden campaign has started fearmongering and guilt tripping third party voters saying "A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump"

Which makes zero sense


You do understand what split opposition voting is, right?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:20 am

The Economist/YouGov Poll - General Election: Biden 49% - Trump 40%

And the beat goes on.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:35 am

Gormwood wrote:
Cisairse wrote:And? I was comparing Kanye to Trump, not to Biden.

Both "choices" are incompetent and nepotistic. One just shows off more skin to tantalize reality show junkies.


So, Vermin Supreme for prez ? Brush your teeth and love your pony.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:39 am

New Eryon Vern wrote:I mean I wasn't supporting Biden in the first place, but I was on the fence. Do I vote Trump? DO I vote Green Party? Do I write in Bernie?
Well the civil unrest and failure of the Democratic "Leadership" proved them to be beyond annoying. They're failures who believe a dementia-ridden senile creepy old man is the way to beat Trump. Even the ones who were supposed to be good, AOC, Ilhan Omar, proved to be nothing but Pelosi shills and weak. Voter shaming, actual collusion with foreign countries, the Bubba Wallace incident, Pointing the finger at Trump for Corona Virus instead of looking at blue state mayors and governors (and the WHO, and CDC. Fauci Lied about masks), supporting an anarchist "autonomous zone", defacing of American statues, wanting to blow up Mt. Rushmore, desecrating cities, burning buildings, looting stores, wasting political capital on nonsense, attacking of cops, and many, many other factors have brought me to the boiling point.
I will NOT be voting Biden, and I WILL be voting for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans this November. Until the Democratic Party can stop being such spineless corporation-lovers who whine about literally anything while caving to Republicans and not getting anything done, I will not be supporting the Democrats. I will not vote for their worthless politicians.

Also please stop voter shaming. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump, a vote for Green is a vote for Green. Not voting is not voting. A vote for Kanye is a vote for Kanye. Anything that isn't voting for Trump, isn't voting for Trump. IF you really believed that anything would split Biden's vote (especially Justin Amash, you think a libertarian who was a republican would split the democratic vote???), MAYBE, the Democrats shouldnot have ran such a weak candidate in the first place. If Biden really needs progressive support in order to win, maybe they should have, I don't know, ran a progressive.


Nobody wants to blow up Mt. Rushmore apart from a few livid people in South Dakota, the Dems are simply NOT in favor of looting, not in favor of desecrating cities etc etc.

But you're not gonna believe that, I mean, why would you? The thing I find most preposterous is the asinine claim of the Dems being "corporation lovers." I'm sorry, are we in an alternate timeline where the GOP is hard on predatory corporations and against laissez-faire capitalism? Because, if so, then I must've accidentally stepped into an alternate fucking universe.

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Postby Juristonia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
New Eryon Vern wrote:I mean I wasn't supporting Biden in the first place, but I was on the fence. Do I vote Trump? DO I vote Green Party? Do I write in Bernie?
Well the civil unrest and failure of the Democratic "Leadership" proved them to be beyond annoying. They're failures who believe a dementia-ridden senile creepy old man is the way to beat Trump. Even the ones who were supposed to be good, AOC, Ilhan Omar, proved to be nothing but Pelosi shills and weak. Voter shaming, actual collusion with foreign countries, the Bubba Wallace incident, Pointing the finger at Trump for Corona Virus instead of looking at blue state mayors and governors (and the WHO, and CDC. Fauci Lied about masks), supporting an anarchist "autonomous zone", defacing of American statues, wanting to blow up Mt. Rushmore, desecrating cities, burning buildings, looting stores, wasting political capital on nonsense, attacking of cops, and many, many other factors have brought me to the boiling point.
I will NOT be voting Biden, and I WILL be voting for Donald J. Trump and the Republicans this November. Until the Democratic Party can stop being such spineless corporation-lovers who whine about literally anything while caving to Republicans and not getting anything done, I will not be supporting the Democrats. I will not vote for their worthless politicians.

Also please stop voter shaming. A vote for Trump is a vote for Trump, a vote for Green is a vote for Green. Not voting is not voting. A vote for Kanye is a vote for Kanye. Anything that isn't voting for Trump, isn't voting for Trump. IF you really believed that anything would split Biden's vote (especially Justin Amash, you think a libertarian who was a republican would split the democratic vote???), MAYBE, the Democrats shouldnot have ran such a weak candidate in the first place. If Biden really needs progressive support in order to win, maybe they should have, I don't know, ran a progressive.

Yeah how dare people vote for who they want in the primary and anyone vote differently from you.

You have any evidence of your absurd claims?

I mean, you're not wrong in this specific instance, but considering the amount of times you've attacked people for not wanting to vote Biden, the hypocrisy here has enough mass to cause its own gravitational pull.
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