2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[Jedi Council]

Okay, I think we have an idea of who's getting vetted at this point. The names are as followed:

1. Stacey Abrams
2. Keisha Bottoms
3. Val Demings
4. Tammy Duckworth
5. Michelle Lujan Grisham
6. Maggie Hassan
7. Kamala Harris
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Susan Rice
10. Elizabeth Warren
11. Gretchen Whitmer

I think it's safe to say the likes of Abrams, Hassan, Klobuchar, and Rice can be easily crossed off in my view. I would also take off Grisham and Whitmer considering I don't see him picking Governor. That leaves us with the following:

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Val Demings
3. Tammy Duckworth
4. Kamala Harris
5. Elizabeth Warren

In essence, we have three black women, one Asian, and one white. This could be the Top 5, but remember, he'll be narrowing it down to three people. Since Harris and Demings law enforcement records could face further scrutiny, especially Harris, we can eliminate them. So, my projected Top 3 are the following (in no order):

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Tammy Duckworth
3. Elizabeth Warren

Each has their advantages/disadvantages but my two favorites are Bottoms and Duckworth.

The more I think about it, the more I kinda want Susan Rice.

If only to see the GOP seethe?

I could easily see Biden nominating her to be Secretary of State if he wins.

[Shrillland]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

With 20% undecided, neither am I.

[Jedi Council]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

With 20% undecided, neither am I.

Strange that it is that high, especially with a name with so much recognition as Mitch McConnell.

[Cisairse]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

Woah

[Cisairse]

The more I think about it, the more I kinda want Susan Rice.

If only to see the GOP seethe?

I could easily see Biden nominating her to be Secretary of State if he wins.

The GOP seething would be nice.

But also I think she's very qualified, moreso than most of the legislators.

[Jedi Council]

If only to see the GOP seethe?

I could easily see Biden nominating her to be Secretary of State if he wins.

The GOP seething would be nice.

But also I think she's very qualified, moreso than most of the legislators.

She is quite qualified, though, it would be interesting to have a Vice President who had never held elected office themselves.

[Cisairse]

The GOP seething would be nice.

But also I think she's very qualified, moreso than most of the legislators.

She is quite qualified, though, it would be interesting to have a Vice President who had never held elected office themselves.

There's precedent for that. In fact, we have had presidents who have never held elected office, even after becoming president.

Hell Trump never held elected office either, before 2016.

[Jedi Council]

She is quite qualified, though, it would be interesting to have a Vice President who had never held elected office themselves.

There's precedent for that. In fact, we have had presidents who have never held elected office, even after becoming president.

Hell Trump never held elected office either, before 2016.

Fair enough, though, with Biden being big on experience, and with the 2024 nomination going to be shaped by his choice, he might want to pick someone with proven vote-winning experience.

[Idzequitch]

Okay, I think we have an idea of who's getting vetted at this point. The names are as followed:

1. Stacey Abrams
2. Keisha Bottoms
3. Val Demings
4. Tammy Duckworth
5. Michelle Lujan Grisham
6. Maggie Hassan
7. Kamala Harris
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Susan Rice
10. Elizabeth Warren
11. Gretchen Whitmer

I think it's safe to say the likes of Abrams, Hassan, Klobuchar, and Rice can be easily crossed off in my view. I would also take off Grisham and Whitmer considering I don't see him picking Governor. That leaves us with the following:

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Val Demings
3. Tammy Duckworth
4. Kamala Harris
5. Elizabeth Warren

In essence, we have three black women, one Asian, and one white. This could be the Top 5, but remember, he'll be narrowing it down to three people. Since Harris and Demings law enforcement records could face further scrutiny, especially Harris, we can eliminate them. So, my projected Top 3 are the following (in no order):

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Tammy Duckworth
3. Elizabeth Warren

Each has their advantages/disadvantages but my two favorites are Bottoms and Duckworth.

Abrams isn't even the best woman from Georgia for the job at this point, so I don't see her getting it. This is the first I've heard of Hassan being considered, but I don't see that happening either. I think MLG's leadership through COVID has been better than Whitmer's, but logistically I don't see either one able to leave their current post very easily right now. Klobuchar's chances imploded the moment all this stuff started in MN. And for reasons I just can't explain, I just can't see Susan Rice getting the nod either. So all that to say, I agree with your top 5.

Demings, IMO is the least well-known of the five. If there's anything remotely icky in her law enforcement record, combined with low name recognition, I think that takes her out. Harris's record probably should take her out of contention, but I just get the feeling she could still be the pick. If Warren wasn't white, she'd be my best guess. But she is white, and I think that works against her in this situation. Bottoms also has low name recognition and limited experience, and I don't think Duckworth has a much bigger reputation than Bottoms.

So they all have disadvantages. My personal preference, like you, would be Duckworth or Bottoms, but something tells me he's still somehow gonna wind up picking Harris. Just a gut feeling that I hope is wrong.

[Jedi Council]

Okay, I think we have an idea of who's getting vetted at this point. The names are as followed:

1. Stacey Abrams
2. Keisha Bottoms
3. Val Demings
4. Tammy Duckworth
5. Michelle Lujan Grisham
6. Maggie Hassan
7. Kamala Harris
8. Amy Klobuchar
9. Susan Rice
10. Elizabeth Warren
11. Gretchen Whitmer

I think it's safe to say the likes of Abrams, Hassan, Klobuchar, and Rice can be easily crossed off in my view. I would also take off Grisham and Whitmer considering I don't see him picking Governor. That leaves us with the following:

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Val Demings
3. Tammy Duckworth
4. Kamala Harris
5. Elizabeth Warren

In essence, we have three black women, one Asian, and one white. This could be the Top 5, but remember, he'll be narrowing it down to three people. Since Harris and Demings law enforcement records could face further scrutiny, especially Harris, we can eliminate them. So, my projected Top 3 are the following (in no order):

1. Keisha Bottoms
2. Tammy Duckworth
3. Elizabeth Warren

Each has their advantages/disadvantages but my two favorites are Bottoms and Duckworth.

Abrams isn't even the best woman from Georgia for the job at this point, so I don't see her getting it. This is the first I've heard of Hassan being considered, but I don't see that happening either. I think MLG's leadership through COVID has been better than Whitmer's, but logistically I don't see either one able to leave their current post very easily right now. Klobuchar's chances imploded the moment all this stuff started in MN. And for reasons I just can't explain, I just can't see Susan Rice getting the nod either. So all that to say, I agree with your top 5.

Demings, IMO is the least well-known of the five. If there's anything remotely icky in her law enforcement record, combined with low name recognition, I think that takes her out. Harris's record probably should take her out of contention, but I just get the feeling she could still be the pick. If Warren wasn't white, she'd be my best guess. But she is white, and I think that works against her in this situation. Bottoms also has low name recognition and limited experience, and I don't think Duckworth has a much bigger reputation than Bottoms.

So they all have disadvantages. My personal preference, like you, would be Duckworth or Bottoms, but something tells me he's still somehow gonna wind up picking Harris. Just a gut feeling that I hope is wrong.

My gut says Harris as well.

Bottoms lacks experience in my view to really take on a national role like Vice President, and while experience is not always a vote winner, Biden clearly thinks that it is important.

Demings would be a good choice, if her record with the OPD is clean, though, I do not know enough about her to make a judgement call.

[Idzequitch]

Abrams isn't even the best woman from Georgia for the job at this point, so I don't see her getting it. This is the first I've heard of Hassan being considered, but I don't see that happening either. I think MLG's leadership through COVID has been better than Whitmer's, but logistically I don't see either one able to leave their current post very easily right now. Klobuchar's chances imploded the moment all this stuff started in MN. And for reasons I just can't explain, I just can't see Susan Rice getting the nod either. So all that to say, I agree with your top 5.

Demings, IMO is the least well-known of the five. If there's anything remotely icky in her law enforcement record, combined with low name recognition, I think that takes her out. Harris's record probably should take her out of contention, but I just get the feeling she could still be the pick. If Warren wasn't white, she'd be my best guess. But she is white, and I think that works against her in this situation. Bottoms also has low name recognition and limited experience, and I don't think Duckworth has a much bigger reputation than Bottoms.

So they all have disadvantages. My personal preference, like you, would be Duckworth or Bottoms, but something tells me he's still somehow gonna wind up picking Harris. Just a gut feeling that I hope is wrong.

My gut says Harris as well.

Bottoms lacks experience in my view to really take on a national role like Vice President, and while experience is not always a vote winner, Biden clearly thinks that it is important.

Demings would be a good choice, if her record with the OPD is clean, though, I do not know enough about her to make a judgement call.

I'll admit to being slightly biased against Demings, only because everything I know about her, including her name, I learned in the past few weeks.

[Jedi Council]

My gut says Harris as well.

Bottoms lacks experience in my view to really take on a national role like Vice President, and while experience is not always a vote winner, Biden clearly thinks that it is important.

Demings would be a good choice, if her record with the OPD is clean, though, I do not know enough about her to make a judgement call.

I'll admit to being slightly biased against Demings, only because everything I know about her, including her name, I learned in the past few weeks.

I had no idea who she was until Impeachment got going.

[Jedi Council]

Now, assuming everything goes well (or not depending on your views) and the Democrats take the Senate, what does that mean for our boy Mitch?

I dont think McConnell could stay on as Minority Leader, such a loss would be pretty demoralizing, especially since a Democratic Senate likely means Biden also won the Presidency.

Who would replace him though? Thune is the Whip at the moment, and comes off as fairly reasonable for a Republican, but I had heard Cornyn desperately wants McConnells job.

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Abrams isn't even the best woman from Georgia for the job at this point, so I don't see her getting it. This is the first I've heard of Hassan being considered, but I don't see that happening either. I think MLG's leadership through COVID has been better than Whitmer's, but logistically I don't see either one able to leave their current post very easily right now. Klobuchar's chances imploded the moment all this stuff started in MN. And for reasons I just can't explain, I just can't see Susan Rice getting the nod either. So all that to say, I agree with your top 5.

Demings, IMO is the least well-known of the five. If there's anything remotely icky in her law enforcement record, combined with low name recognition, I think that takes her out. Harris's record probably should take her out of contention, but I just get the feeling she could still be the pick. If Warren wasn't white, she'd be my best guess. But she is white, and I think that works against her in this situation. Bottoms also has low name recognition and limited experience, and I don't think Duckworth has a much bigger reputation than Bottoms.

So they all have disadvantages. My personal preference, like you, would be Duckworth or Bottoms, but something tells me he's still somehow gonna wind up picking Harris. Just a gut feeling that I hope is wrong.

I wouldn't mind Harris as a running mate, but I can understand why some people would have a problem with her. Plus, California is already solid blue.

My personal favorite is Tammy Duckworth. Being from Illinois, if her being on the ticket can fire up voters in Lake County & Porter county in Indiana, the Hoosier State will be in play... and if Indiana is a battleground, you can almost certainly bet on Biden being our next President.

[Zurkerx]

The more I think about it, the more I kinda want Susan Rice.

And have the constant barrage of Benghazi being hammered at them? I think not. Her foreign policy credentials are certainly amazing, but she has never held elected office before and lacks experience in the domestic policy front. A good adviser or Sec. of State? Yes, but not VP.

Abrams isn't even the best woman from Georgia for the job at this point, so I don't see her getting it. This is the first I've heard of Hassan being considered, but I don't see that happening either. I think MLG's leadership through COVID has been better than Whitmer's, but logistically I don't see either one able to leave their current post very easily right now. Klobuchar's chances imploded the moment all this stuff started in MN. And for reasons I just can't explain, I just can't see Susan Rice getting the nod either. So all that to say, I agree with your top 5.

Demings, IMO is the least well-known of the five. If there's anything remotely icky in her law enforcement record, combined with low name recognition, I think that takes her out. Harris's record probably should take her out of contention, but I just get the feeling she could still be the pick. If Warren wasn't white, she'd be my best guess. But she is white, and I think that works against her in this situation. Bottoms also has low name recognition and limited experience, and I don't think Duckworth has a much bigger reputation than Bottoms.

So they all have disadvantages. My personal preference, like you, would be Duckworth or Bottoms, but something tells me he's still somehow gonna wind up picking Harris. Just a gut feeling that I hope is wrong.

I wouldn't mind Harris as a running mate, but I can understand why some people would have a problem with her. Plus, California is already solid blue.

My personal favorite is Tammy Duckworth. Being from Illinois, if her being on the ticket can fire up voters in Lake County & Porter county in Indiana, the Hoosier State will be in play... and if Indiana is a battleground, you can almost certainly bet on Biden being our next President.

Can? I'm assuming you're from Indiana then. Even if Biden did pick Duckworth, I don't see Indiana going blue, or being in play. Why name these specific counties?

But to Idz, I hope to god he doesn't pick Harris: that would be suicidal.

[Valrifell]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

Forget the presidential contest, McConnell losing his seat is the only thing that can make me happy again.

[Shrillland]

The more I think about it, the more I kinda want Susan Rice.

And have the constant barrage of Benghazi being hammered at them? I think not. Her foreign policy credentials are certainly amazing, but she has never held elected office before and lacks experience in the domestic policy front. A good adviser or Sec. of State? Yes, but not VP.

I wouldn't mind Harris as a running mate, but I can understand why some people would have a problem with her. Plus, California is already solid blue.

My personal favorite is Tammy Duckworth. Being from Illinois, if her being on the ticket can fire up voters in Lake County & Porter county in Indiana, the Hoosier State will be in play... and if Indiana is a battleground, you can almost certainly bet on Biden being our next President.

Can? I'm assuming you're from Indiana then. Even if Biden did pick Duckworth, I don't see Indiana going blue, or being in play. Why name these specific counties?

But to Idz, I hope to god he doesn't pick Harris: that would be suicidal.

Why Lake and Porter in particular? Those are the bluest counties in the state bar Marion County, and if Porter County were to go blue, which it rarely does, that would mean bluer hues throughout the state as well.

[Jerzylvania]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

Sometimes justice can be served in KY elections.

[San Lumen]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

Sometimes justice can be served in KY elections.

the did get a New governor last year. Hopefully Lightning can strike twice

[Cannot think of a name]

New polls show McGrath ahead of McConnell 41-40% in Kentucky Senate Race, Biden up on Trump 53-41% in Michigan

McGrath beating McConnell would be amazing. I am not holding me breath, but still, one can dream.

Forget the presidential contest, McConnell losing his seat is the only thing that can make me happy again.

If that longshot happens I'd consider making his concession speech my ringtone.

[Alt-Right Death Squads]

So good ol Joe opposes efforts to defund the police as per some articles I read earlier. Thoughts on the longer term ramifications that could have on his campaign given how massively the overton window on police has shifted?

It’s not a very popular opinion and distancing himself is the right thing to do

I doubt he'll do well with police unions if he backtracks on it.

[San Lumen]

It’s not a very popular opinion and distancing himself is the right thing to do

I doubt he'll do well with police unions if he backtracks on it.

I dont think he will. Its not a very popular position.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Imagine if trump wins after all this.

[San Lumen]

Imagine if trump wins after all this.

The country is beyond saving if he does. Things can change but its looking increasingly doubtful he gets a second term

[Ism]

Imagine if trump wins after all this.

I have enough fuel for my nightmares, thank you.