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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:32 pm

We should just draft all children without parents into the military and raise them as child soldiers, thereby eliminating the need for adoption agencies.The funny thing is you guys probably can't tell if I'm being serious or not.
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Postby -SARS- » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:37 pm

If they don't want to comply with state antidiscrimination laws, they don't have to accept state funding.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:40 pm

-SARS- wrote:If they don't want to comply with state antidiscrimination laws, they don't have to accept state funding.


I honestly don't think that's really an appropriate solution. Megachurches make a LOT of money. Do you really want "well if you don't take state funding you can do whatever you want." to be the standard? I'm sure you could get the zombie hordes to cough up a few extra dollars to "Keep innocent children out of the hands of the homosexuals!"
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Postby Andsed » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:40 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:We should just draft all children without parents into the military and raise them as child soldiers, thereby eliminating the need for adoption agencies.The funny thing is you guys probably can't tell if I'm being serious or not.

Isn't´t using child soldiers a war crime? Like I am pretty sure that is a war crime.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:47 pm

Andsed wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:We should just draft all children without parents into the military and raise them as child soldiers, thereby eliminating the need for adoption agencies.The funny thing is you guys probably can't tell if I'm being serious or not.

Isn't´t using child soldiers a war crime? Like I am pretty sure that is a war crime.


Technically speaking, the US already has child soldiers, just not super young child soldiers, we recruit kids in high school. Which is actually why the USA was one of the main opponents to making child soldiers a war crime and never, to my knowledge signed on to it.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:15 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:We should just draft all children without parents into the military and raise them as child soldiers, thereby eliminating the need for adoption agencies.The funny thing is you guys probably can't tell if I'm being serious or not.


With how 2020 America has been going...why not? Let's add the final puzzle piece to the failed state equation and make child soldiers a thing.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:43 pm

This aged well:

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:45 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Andsed wrote:Isn't´t using child soldiers a war crime? Like I am pretty sure that is a war crime.


Technically speaking, the US already has child soldiers, just not super young child soldiers, we recruit kids in high school. Which is actually why the USA was one of the main opponents to making child soldiers a war crime and never, to my knowledge signed on to it.

"Sure it's a war crime, but Murika, FUCK YEAH!!"
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:46 pm

Gormwood wrote:This aged well:

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Hey, all of his LGBT supporter worked hard on that banner! :p
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:47 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Gormwood wrote:This aged well:

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Hey, all of his LGBT supporter worked hard on that banner! :p

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Postby Geneviev » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:50 pm

Gormwood wrote:This aged well:

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At least it doesn't say Trump for LGBT.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:55 pm

Ah, a creative way to divert attention and at the same time punish the ebil left Trump is accusing of being responsible for all misery in the world.

Sometimes I wonder if the guy is not simply a genius actor pretending to be a pompous oaf.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:58 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:Ah, a creative way to divert attention and at the same time punish the ebil left Trump is accusing of being responsible for all misery in the world.

Sometimes I wonder if the guy is not simply a genius actor pretending to be a pompous oaf.

Occam's Razor. Sometimes an oaf is just an oaf.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:03 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Ah, a creative way to divert attention and at the same time punish the ebil left Trump is accusing of being responsible for all misery in the world.

Sometimes I wonder if the guy is not simply a genius actor pretending to be a pompous oaf.

Occam's Razor. Sometimes an oaf is just an oaf.

I dunno. With Johnson it actually is an act - and they do share barbers...
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:05 pm

Gormwood wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Technically speaking, the US already has child soldiers, just not super young child soldiers, we recruit kids in high school. Which is actually why the USA was one of the main opponents to making child soldiers a war crime and never, to my knowledge signed on to it.

"Sure it's a war crime, but Murika, FUCK YEAH!!"


Well it's more "It's a war crime for you, but not for us." Like a lot of other things the US does. Like Mercenaries. Employing mercenaries is a war crime in most of the worlds governments. But not for the USA.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:07 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Gormwood wrote:"Sure it's a war crime, but Murika, FUCK YEAH!!"


Well it's more "It's a war crime for you, but not for us." Like a lot of other things the US does. Like Mercenaries. Employing mercenaries is a war crime in most of the worlds governments. But not for the USA.


Well yeah, mercenaries are competition for us
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:21 pm

The Catholic church is heavily involved in a number of areas that really should be handled by government. Adoption being just one.

We cannot give an inch on this, or the church will take it as a precedent to deny gay people medical care, and education services.

Separation of church and state that is only observed from the state side, was a terrible mistake. Nationalize the bastards!
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:27 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:The Catholic church is heavily involved in a number of areas that really should be handled by government. Adoption being just one.

We cannot give an inch on this, or the church will take it as a precedent to deny gay people medical care, and education services.

Separation of church and state that is only observed from the state side, was a terrible mistake. Nationalize the bastards!

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:29 pm

Sounds like Trump is pandering to hardline evangelicals in the hopes of getting a boost for the election.

And, if the agency refuses any government (ergo, taxpayer) money or support, they can declare themselves private and serve the community they choose. They shouldn't deny children adoptive families, simply because of their would-be parents' sexuality. But -- if they are not supported by any government fund in any way -- that is their prerogative (though I would withdraw tax relief from such agencies, as they are clearly not charitably serving the whole community, but only like-minded evangelicals).

People are then free to boycott them and give their time to a more deserving agency, one that cares about about finding the children in their care capable, loving homes where they can thrive, rather than seemingly ensuring each family aligns with a conservative aesthetic.

Once an agency accepts taxpayer money, however, they have to serve all taxpayers (regardless of gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity or religion).
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:41 pm

Being a child in a homosexual family is probably better for the child's welfare than being stuck in the foster/adoption system, so I think that they shouldn't discriminate and allow same-sex couples to adopt children even from religious agencies. After all, a child is not a cake or piece of art. Its welfare should be put first over the convictions and views of adoption agencies.

That being said, they should not lower their standards otherwise. They must be allowed to reject LGBT couples if there's a genuine question of whether they're ready or capable of caring for a child.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:58 pm

Trump saying crap to sow division and cause chaos....what day is it?....
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:01 am

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Being a child in a homosexual family is probably better for the child's welfare than being stuck in the foster/adoption system, so I think that they shouldn't discriminate and allow same-sex couples to adopt children even from religious agencies. After all, a child is not a cake or piece of art. Its welfare should be put first over the convictions and views of adoption agencies.

That being said, they should not lower their standards otherwise. They must be allowed to reject LGBT couples if there's a genuine question of whether they're ready or capable of caring for a child.


I saw Jessie Jackson once answer that question and he said the same thing (not exact) better the child be in a loving home then in the system.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:05 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Trump saying crap to sow division and cause chaos....what day is it?....

I believe it’s one of the ones ending in Y, based on your post.
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Postby New Bremerton » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:08 am

Being a religious snowflake does not entitle one to discriminate. The right of foster children to be raised by a loving family trumps the delicate religious feelings of so-called "adoption agencies" to discriminate and deny thousands of children a family. The right of a nation to defend itself trumps the right of certain prudes to ban gay, trans, and womenfolk from military service.

More loving couples = fewer kids on the streets. More female and LGBT servicemen = a stronger military. It's just basic math.
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Postby King of the Incels » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:18 am

New Bremerton wrote:Being a religious snowflake does not entitle one to discriminate. The right of foster children to be raised by a loving family trumps the delicate religious feelings of so-called "adoption agencies" to discriminate and deny thousands of children a family. The right of a nation to defend itself trumps the right of certain prudes to ban gay, trans, and womenfolk from military service.

More loving couples = fewer kids on the streets. More female and LGBT servicemen = a stronger military. It's just basic math.


Being a human being entitles one to discriminate.

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